Be sure to hop on IRC and speak with jmesquita because he's been working on this also. It would be very good to have Spanish-speaking users review the Spanish phrase_es.xml file for correctness. Also, we need Spanish-speaking programmers to assist with the mod_say application for Spanish - there are things that you have to do in Spanish that you don't have to do in English. Thanks, MC On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Luis F Urrea <lfurrea@gmail.com> wrote:

On linux I use Jack + Jamin + Ardour GTK2 for the takes and Rezound for edition .

Record and edit at 48000Hz and then I use sox to downsample to 8000Hz for FS playback.

Here's a guide that has been put together for reference on what to record.

http://fisheye.freeswitch.org/browse/FreeSWITCH/docs/phrase/phrase_es.xml

Regards,

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:21 AM, bakko <asannucci@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I'd like to begin record spanish prompts for FS.

Do you know any software/hardware to make it?

Thank you

BR

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I've taken a look at phrase_es.xml and would like other spanish native speakers to check the following (i preferred to write down here my impressions so others can contribute instead of sending a patch): 1) Centavos <prompt phrase="Centavos por minuto" filename="cents-per-minute.wav"/> <prompt phrase="Centavos" filename="cents.wav"/> probably in european spanish the most apropiate word for cents is "céntimo" but, if i'm not mistaken, in south american spanish is more common to use "centavos" so this is more a localization issue...as you wish. Since I live in Spain I would use the following: <prompt phrase="Céntimos por minuto" filename="cents-per-minute.wav"/> <prompt phrase="Céntimos" filename="cents.wav"/> 2) Minnor stress corrections: instead of Dolar, you should use the stressed word Dólar: -<prompt phrase="Dolar" filename="dollar.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Dólar" filename="dollar.wav"/> instead of numero, you should use the stressed word número: -<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su numero de usuario, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_id.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su número de usuario, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_id.wav"/> 3) en instead of a -<prompt phrase="La persona a la extensión" filename="vm-person.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="La persona en la extensión" filename="vm-person.wav"/> 4) femenin genre of contraseña changes the word seguido for seguida -<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su contraseña, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_pass.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su contraseña, seguida por" filename="vm-enter_pass.wav"/> 5) I would propose the word "almohadilla" as the translation of pound so I would change following sentences: -<prompt phrase="Signo de número" filename="35.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Almohadilla" filename="35.wav"/> -<prompt phrase="Signo de número" filename="pound.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Almohadilla" filename="pound.wav"/> -<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese el número de una extensión seguido del signo de número" filename="ivr-enter_ext.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese el número de una extensión seguido de almohadilla" filename="ivr-enter_ext.wav"/> -<prompt phrase="Seguido del signo de número" filename="followed.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Seguido de almohadilla" filename="followed.wav"/> 6)changing prepositions: -<prompt phrase="Un error ha ocurrido, por favor contacte al administrador" filename="error.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Un error ha ocurrido, por favor contacte con el administrador" filename="error.wav"/> 7)instead of using ingrese, it sounds more natural to use introduzca when interacting with an IVR asking for inserting data. So: -<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su numero de usuario, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_id.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor introduzca su número de usuario, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_id.wav"/> -<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su contraseña, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_pass.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor introduzca su contraseña, seguida por" filename="vm-enter_pass.wav"/> -<prompt phrase="Por favor ingrese el pin de la conferencia." filename="conf-pin.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Por favor introduzca el pin de la conferencia." filename="conf-pin.wav"/> -<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese el número de una extensión seguido del signo de número" filename="ivr-enter_ext.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor introduzca el número de una extensión seguido de almohadilla" filename="ivr-enter_ext.wav"/> Comments? Samuel 2009/8/11 Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org>

Be sure to hop on IRC and speak with jmesquita because he's been working on this also. It would be very good to have Spanish-speaking users review the Spanish phrase_es.xml file for correctness. Also, we need Spanish-speaking programmers to assist with the mod_say application for Spanish - there are things that you have to do in Spanish that you don't have to do in English.

Thanks, MC

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Luis F Urrea <lfurrea@gmail.com> wrote:

...

On linux I use Jack + Jamin + Ardour GTK2 for the takes and Rezound for edition .

Record and edit at 48000Hz and then I use sox to downsample to 8000Hz for FS playback.

Here's a guide that has been put together for reference on what to record.

http://fisheye.freeswitch.org/browse/FreeSWITCH/docs/phrase/phrase_es.xml

Regards,

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:21 AM, bakko <asannucci@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I'd like to begin record spanish prompts for FS.

Do you know any software/hardware to make it?

Thank you

BR

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I think bakko is right, I have a few observations about the changes proposed by samuel, and I think it makes a lot of sense to have different localizations. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:49 AM, samuel <samu60@gmail.com> wrote:

I've taken a look at phrase_es.xml and would like other spanish native speakers to check the following (i preferred to write down here my impressions so others can contribute instead of sending a patch):

1) Centavos

<prompt phrase="Centavos por minuto" filename="cents-per-minute.wav"/> <prompt phrase="Centavos" filename="cents.wav"/>

probably in european spanish the most apropiate word for cents is "céntimo" but, if i'm not mistaken, in south american spanish is more common to use "centavos" so this is more a localization issue...as you wish. Since I live in Spain I would use the following: <prompt phrase="Céntimos por minuto" filename="cents-per-minute.wav"/> <prompt phrase="Céntimos" filename="cents.wav"/>

You are right, in South America we use Centavos.

2) Minnor stress corrections: instead of Dolar, you should use the stressed word Dólar: -<prompt phrase="Dolar" filename="dollar.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Dólar" filename="dollar.wav"/>

instead of numero, you should use the stressed word número: -<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su numero de usuario, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_id.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su número de usuario, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_id.wav"/>

3) en instead of a -<prompt phrase="La persona a la extensión" filename="vm-person.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="La persona en la extensión" filename="vm-person.wav"/>

4) femenin genre of contraseña changes the word seguido for seguida -<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su contraseña, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_pass.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su contraseña, seguida por" filename="vm-enter_pass.wav"/>

5) I would propose the word "almohadilla" as the translation of pound so I would change following sentences: -<prompt phrase="Signo de número" filename="35.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Almohadilla" filename="35.wav"/>

-<prompt phrase="Signo de número" filename="pound.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Almohadilla" filename="pound.wav"/>

I don't know about the rest of the countries in South America, but at least in Chile it would me much clearer "Signo de número" instead of Almohadilla (first time I've heard that name for the pound sign).

-<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese el número de una extensión seguido del signo de número" filename="ivr-enter_ext.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese el número de una extensión seguido de almohadilla" filename="ivr-enter_ext.wav"/>

-<prompt phrase="Seguido del signo de número" filename="followed.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Seguido de almohadilla" filename="followed.wav"/>

6)changing prepositions: -<prompt phrase="Un error ha ocurrido, por favor contacte al administrador" filename="error.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Un error ha ocurrido, por favor contacte con el administrador" filename="error.wav"/>

Here it would be: <prompt phrase="Ha ocurrido un error, por favor contacte al administrador" filename="error.wav"/>

7)instead of using ingrese, it sounds more natural to use introduzca when interacting with an IVR asking for inserting data. So: -<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su numero de usuario, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_id.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor introduzca su número de usuario, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_id.wav"/>

-<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su contraseña, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_pass.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor introduzca su contraseña, seguida por" filename="vm-enter_pass.wav"/>

-<prompt phrase="Por favor ingrese el pin de la conferencia." filename="conf-pin.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Por favor introduzca el pin de la conferencia." filename="conf-pin.wav"/>

-<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese el número de una extensión seguido del signo de número" filename="ivr-enter_ext.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor introduzca el número de una extensión seguido de almohadilla" filename="ivr-enter_ext.wav"/>

Comments?

I am not very convinced by the use of stresses in the words, I know it's "more correct", but sometimes it's a pain, especially if you are working on a remote server and don't have the right keyboard setting or something like that. I've also had a few headaches with file encoding, so depending on that and changes to the encoding you can screw your config files really easily. For simplification I'd leave all stresses out.

Samuel

2009/8/11 Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org>

Be sure to hop on IRC and speak with jmesquita because he's been working on

...

this also. It would be very good to have Spanish-speaking users review the Spanish phrase_es.xml file for correctness. Also, we need Spanish-speaking programmers to assist with the mod_say application for Spanish - there are things that you have to do in Spanish that you don't have to do in English.

Thanks, MC

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Luis F Urrea <lfurrea@gmail.com> wrote:

...

On linux I use Jack + Jamin + Ardour GTK2 for the takes and Rezound for edition .

Record and edit at 48000Hz and then I use sox to downsample to 8000Hz for FS playback.

Here's a guide that has been put together for reference on what to record.

http://fisheye.freeswitch.org/browse/FreeSWITCH/docs/phrase/phrase_es.xml

Regards,

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:21 AM, bakko <asannucci@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I'd like to begin record spanish prompts for FS.

Do you know any software/hardware to make it?

Thank you

BR

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samuel wrote:

I'm also for different spanish localization if it's not too complicated. It was also for me the first time I see "signo de número" for pound ;)

I just idly noticed this - so just a comment from a Brit who iteracts quite a bit with Americans. The # symbol in the UK is not called "pound" because (I don't know if this will come out on your screens correctly) we use £ for our currency. I would refer to the # symbol as "hash" or just possibly the "number symbol". -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk

Mike, the gender thing will eventually have to change code, I guess. I have not yet looked at the say code, so I am just imagining here. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com> wrote:

again, this issue should be addressed when you do a sound set for that dialect, we are attempting to keep the c code common for all dialects within a language, we will see if this works unless anyone can point to a place this will not work.

Mike

On Aug 11, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Alan Chandler wrote:

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samuel wrote:

...

I'm also for different spanish localization if it's not too complicated. It was also for me the first time I see "signo de número" for pound ;)

I just idly noticed this - so just a comment from a Brit who iteracts quite a bit with Americans.

The # symbol in the UK is not called "pound" because (I don't know if this will come out on your screens correctly) we use £ for our currency.

I would refer to the # symbol as "hash" or just possibly the "number symbol".

-- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk

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Oops, I thought you were saying different languages. Sorry about that. jmesquita On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:

2009/8/11 João Mesquita <jmesquita@gmail.com>

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Mike, the gender thing will eventually have to change code, I guess. I have not yet looked at the say code, so I am just imagining here.

Are there gender differences between dialects of the same language? -MC

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I would say there are no changes in gender for dialects...but with so many languages around I can't assure it 100% ;) Samuel. 2009/8/11 Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org>

2009/8/11 João Mesquita <jmesquita@gmail.com>

...

Mike, the gender thing will eventually have to change code, I guess. I have not yet looked at the say code, so I am just imagining here.

Are there gender differences between dialects of the same language? -MC

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Correct me if I am wrong, but can't all these differences be done in a different soundset without modifying any code or other config? Mike On Aug 11, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Nicolas Brenner wrote:

I think bakko is right, I have a few observations about the changes proposed by samuel, and I think it makes a lot of sense to have different localizations.

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:49 AM, samuel <samu60@gmail.com> wrote: I've taken a look at phrase_es.xml and would like other spanish native speakers to check the following (i preferred to write down here my impressions so others can contribute instead of sending a patch):

1) Centavos

<prompt phrase="Centavos por minuto" filename="cents-per-minute.wav"/> <prompt phrase="Centavos" filename="cents.wav"/>

probably in european spanish the most apropiate word for cents is "céntimo" but, if i'm not mistaken, in south american spanish is more common to use "centavos" so this is more a localization issue...as you wish. Since I live in Spain I would use the following: <prompt phrase="Céntimos por minuto" filename="cents-per-minute.wav"/> <prompt phrase="Céntimos" filename="cents.wav"/>

You are right, in South America we use Centavos.

2) Minnor stress corrections: instead of Dolar, you should use the stressed word Dólar: -<prompt phrase="Dolar" filename="dollar.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Dólar" filename="dollar.wav"/>

instead of numero, you should use the stressed word número: -<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su numero de usuario, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_id.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su número de usuario, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_id.wav"/>

3) en instead of a -<prompt phrase="La persona a la extensión" filename="vm-person.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="La persona en la extensión" filename="vm- person.wav"/>

4) femenin genre of contraseña changes the word seguido for seguida -<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su contraseña, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_pass.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su contraseña, seguida por" filename="vm-enter_pass.wav"/>

5) I would propose the word "almohadilla" as the translation of pound so I would change following sentences: -<prompt phrase="Signo de número" filename="35.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Almohadilla" filename="35.wav"/>

-<prompt phrase="Signo de número" filename="pound.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Almohadilla" filename="pound.wav"/>

I don't know about the rest of the countries in South America, but at least in Chile it would me much clearer "Signo de número" instead of Almohadilla (first time I've heard that name for the pound sign).

-<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese el número de una extensión seguido del signo de número" filename="ivr-enter_ext.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese el número de una extensión seguido de almohadilla" filename="ivr-enter_ext.wav"/>

-<prompt phrase="Seguido del signo de número" filename="followed.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Seguido de almohadilla" filename="followed.wav"/>

6)changing prepositions: -<prompt phrase="Un error ha ocurrido, por favor contacte al administrador" filename="error.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Un error ha ocurrido, por favor contacte con el administrador" filename="error.wav"/>

Here it would be: <prompt phrase="Ha ocurrido un error, por favor contacte al administrador" filename="error.wav"/>

7)instead of using ingrese, it sounds more natural to use introduzca when interacting with an IVR asking for inserting data. So: -<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su numero de usuario, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_id.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor introduzca su número de usuario, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_id.wav"/>

-<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese su contraseña, seguido por" filename="vm-enter_pass.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor introduzca su contraseña, seguida por" filename="vm-enter_pass.wav"/>

-<prompt phrase="Por favor ingrese el pin de la conferencia." filename="conf-pin.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="Por favor introduzca el pin de la conferencia." filename="conf-pin.wav"/>

-<prompt phrase="por favor ingrese el número de una extensión seguido del signo de número" filename="ivr-enter_ext.wav"/> +<prompt phrase="por favor introduzca el número de una extensión seguido de almohadilla" filename="ivr-enter_ext.wav"/>

Comments?

I am not very convinced by the use of stresses in the words, I know it's "more correct", but sometimes it's a pain, especially if you are working on a remote server and don't have the right keyboard setting or something like that. I've also had a few headaches with file encoding, so depending on that and changes to the encoding you can screw your config files really easily. For simplification I'd leave all stresses out.

Samuel

2009/8/11 Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org>

Be sure to hop on IRC and speak with jmesquita because he's been working on this also. It would be very good to have Spanish-speaking users review the Spanish phrase_es.xml file for correctness. Also, we need Spanish-speaking programmers to assist with the mod_say application for Spanish - there are things that you have to do in Spanish that you don't have to do in English.

Thanks, MC

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Luis F Urrea <lfurrea@gmail.com> wrote: On linux I use Jack + Jamin + Ardour GTK2 for the takes and Rezound for edition .

Record and edit at 48000Hz and then I use sox to downsample to 8000Hz for FS playback.

Here's a guide that has been put together for reference on what to record.

http://fisheye.freeswitch.org/browse/FreeSWITCH/docs/phrase/phrase_es.xml

Regards,

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:21 AM, bakko <asannucci@gmail.com> wrote: I'd like to begin record spanish prompts for FS.

Do you know any software/hardware to make it?

Thank you

BR

The patch submitted by Diego Toro, however would fix the actual pronunciation of currency and dates from 20th - 29th which are not working with the "english" implementation of mod_say_es.c In regards the dates pronunciation for voicemail for example we used the following changes to mod_say_es.c 372,375c412,427 - say_file("time/day-%d.wav", tm.tm_wday); - say_file("time/mon-%d.wav", tm.tm_mon); - say_num(tm.tm_mday, SSM_COUNTED); - say_num(tm.tm_year + 1900, SSM_PRONOUNCED); --- + if (tm.tm_mday == 1) { + say_file("time/day-%d.wav", tm.tm_wday); + say_num(tm.tm_mday, SSM_COUNTED); + say_file("time/de.wav"); + say_file("time/mon-%d.wav", tm.tm_mon); + say_file("time/de.wav"); + say_num(tm.tm_year + 1900, SSM_PRONOUNCED); + + } else { + say_file("time/day-%d.wav", tm.tm_wday); + say_num(tm.tm_mday, SSM_PRONOUNCED); + say_file("time/de.wav"); + say_file("time/mon-%d.wav", tm.tm_mon); + say_file("time/de.wav"); + say_num(tm.tm_year + 1900, SSM_PRONOUNCED); + }