[Freeswitch-users] sip_profiles - Aliases Question

[mm_202]

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil <lawwton at gmail.com
> wrote:

> I am pretty sincere when I say "I appreciate the help", otherwise I
> wouldn't say it. I don't think I've argued in any of my previous
> statements and I've tried to be very polite when raising questions or
> concerns. Disagreeing in a polite way doesn't necessarily mean that I
> am 100% rejecting the idea and by the way it's not a bad thing to
> disagree. No one said "You are wrong"; but "I disagree". There is a
> difference there.
>
> If you expect to put a system out there and new users that have used
> other ones not to ask why this or that I think you'll keep running
> into this with other people. No one is criticizing or putting down the
> system here, on the contrary I am trying to simply find out how it
> works so I can use it. But things like reloading configurations and
> specific system details that are quite different when compared to
> others (alias for instance which I am still not sure what would break
> if removed) do require some asking if after reading the online
> documentation and previous archived messages the reason is still not
> clear.
>
> So I am not sure how you expect people to ask questions or if this is
> more a "this is what it is" take it or leave it dictatorship approach.
> Not the paradigm followed in open source projects where collaboration,
> asking and questioning is usually the  way to go.
>
> Interestingly enough in this one case I DON'T APPRECIATE YOUR
> RESPONSE. Now tell me if that doesn't sound sincere to you. In any
> case I will continue to play with the system and possibly ask
> questions as well.
>
> Alfredo
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Anthony Minessale
> <anthony.minessale at gmail.com> wrote:
> > We do offer a triple your money back guarentee!
> >
> > Many params can change without restarting and many can't ip/port fo
> > example.  FYI, You don't sound sincere when you use the term appriciate
> when
> > you are arguing with these guys voulenteering to help explain it to you.
> > You should make sure you make the most of their assistance as they could
> > have just said rtfm
> >
> > On Jan 16, 2010 11:07 PM, "Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil" <lawwton at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > mm_202:
> >
> > Thanks for the reply.
> >
> > I don't agree with your statement: "In a production system, you
> >
> > *shouldnt* have to change the main profiles at all."
> >
> > I think it's always good to be able to reload things dynamically in a
> > non-disruptive way.
> >
> > The alias is a bit unusual. To be honest I had never seen that before
> > in any of the Telecommunication Systems I've worked on. Not that is
> > not a good idea, just one that at first glance doesn't seem too clear
> > for some reason. Specially when you see two profiles both representing
> > the same object listed under "sofia status". Being forced to have the
> > alias doesn't seem like an appealing option, should be optional I
> > think. I would like if possible a more detailed explanation on what
> > would break if not present.
> >
> > In any case, I am sure there is a reason for these things. I am trying
> > to understand how they all work together. Things are not as apparent
> > in FS at first glance when compared to other systems; but the platform
> > seems to be built with the purpose of offering a lot of flexibility
> > which is really good.
> >
> > Appreciate the feedback.
> >
> > Alfredo Q-V
> >
> > Appreciate the help,
> >
> > Alfredo
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:35 PM, mm_202 <mastermind202 at gmail.com>
> wrote: >
> >> On Sat, Jan 16, 201...
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Alfredo,

What I meant by "In a production system, you *shouldnt* have to change the
main profiles at all", I meant core things like IP address / port; once they
are setup, they shouldnt change. FreeSWITCH is extremely dynamic and almost
everything can be changed on the fly without impacting production.

When I first started using FS, I was also a bit curious why there were
profile aliases, but I assure you that they are NOT a bad thing.  Just play
with FS some more and get a feel for it, you may even run into a situation
when you actually need the aliases :)

As for Anthony Minessale (anthm), he is the main creator of FreeSWITCH.  He
constantly deals with new users critizing FS before even using it and/or
reading the docs, hence he can come off quite direct sometimes. I would
guess that there was just a misunderstanding between you two.

Regardless, hopefully you'll continue to play with FS and see what myself
and so many other people did, -- a kickass system!

-- mm_202.
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