<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lawwton@gmail.com">lawwton@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I am pretty sincere when I say "I appreciate the help", otherwise I<br>
wouldn't say it. I don't think I've argued in any of my previous<br>
statements and I've tried to be very polite when raising questions or<br>
concerns. Disagreeing in a polite way doesn't necessarily mean that I<br>
am 100% rejecting the idea and by the way it's not a bad thing to<br>
disagree. No one said "You are wrong"; but "I disagree". There is a<br>
difference there.<br>
<br>
If you expect to put a system out there and new users that have used<br>
other ones not to ask why this or that I think you'll keep running<br>
into this with other people. No one is criticizing or putting down the<br>
system here, on the contrary I am trying to simply find out how it<br>
works so I can use it. But things like reloading configurations and<br>
specific system details that are quite different when compared to<br>
others (alias for instance which I am still not sure what would break<br>
if removed) do require some asking if after reading the online<br>
documentation and previous archived messages the reason is still not<br>
clear.<br>
<br>
So I am not sure how you expect people to ask questions or if this is<br>
more a "this is what it is" take it or leave it dictatorship approach.<br>
Not the paradigm followed in open source projects where collaboration,<br>
asking and questioning is usually the way to go.<br>
<br>
Interestingly enough in this one case I DON'T APPRECIATE YOUR<br>
RESPONSE. Now tell me if that doesn't sound sincere to you. In any<br>
case I will continue to play with the system and possibly ask<br>
questions as well.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Alfredo<br>
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On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Anthony Minessale<br>
<<a href="mailto:anthony.minessale@gmail.com">anthony.minessale@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> We do offer a triple your money back guarentee!<br>
><br>
> Many params can change without restarting and many can't ip/port fo<br>
> example. FYI, You don't sound sincere when you use the term appriciate when<br>
> you are arguing with these guys voulenteering to help explain it to you.<br>
> You should make sure you make the most of their assistance as they could<br>
> have just said rtfm<br>
><br>
> On Jan 16, 2010 11:07 PM, "Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil" <<a href="mailto:lawwton@gmail.com">lawwton@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> mm_202:<br>
><br>
> Thanks for the reply.<br>
><br>
> I don't agree with your statement: "In a production system, you<br>
><br>
> *shouldnt* have to change the main profiles at all."<br>
><br>
> I think it's always good to be able to reload things dynamically in a<br>
> non-disruptive way.<br>
><br>
> The alias is a bit unusual. To be honest I had never seen that before<br>
> in any of the Telecommunication Systems I've worked on. Not that is<br>
> not a good idea, just one that at first glance doesn't seem too clear<br>
> for some reason. Specially when you see two profiles both representing<br>
> the same object listed under "sofia status". Being forced to have the<br>
> alias doesn't seem like an appealing option, should be optional I<br>
> think. I would like if possible a more detailed explanation on what<br>
> would break if not present.<br>
><br>
> In any case, I am sure there is a reason for these things. I am trying<br>
> to understand how they all work together. Things are not as apparent<br>
> in FS at first glance when compared to other systems; but the platform<br>
> seems to be built with the purpose of offering a lot of flexibility<br>
> which is really good.<br>
><br>
> Appreciate the feedback.<br>
><br>
> Alfredo Q-V<br>
><br>
> Appreciate the help,<br>
><br>
> Alfredo<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:35 PM, mm_202 <<a href="mailto:mastermind202@gmail.com">mastermind202@gmail.com</a>> wrote: ><br>
>> On Sat, Jan 16, 201...<br>
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<br>When I first started using FS, I was also a bit curious why there were profile aliases, but I assure you that they are NOT a bad thing. Just play with FS some more and get a feel for it, you may even run into a situation when you actually need the aliases :)<br>
<br>As for Anthony Minessale (anthm), he is the main creator of FreeSWITCH. He constantly deals with new users critizing FS before even using it and/or reading the docs, hence he can come off quite direct sometimes. I would guess that there was just a misunderstanding between you two.<br>
</div></div><br>Regardless, hopefully you'll continue to play with FS and see what myself and so many other people did, -- a kickass system!<br><br>-- mm_202.<br><br><br>