[Freeswitch-users] sip_profiles - Aliases Question

Sun Jan 17 14:54:41 PST 2010

Thanks mm_202.

Yeah, I figured he was having a bad day or something, don't think my
reply to you was offensive or contained criticism in any way. So I
said that I really appreciated your help which I of course meant. To
see his response was a bit of a shocker since I made sure I stated I
understood most of the time things are done in a way for a reason. I
had also spent a bit of time reading up documentation and trying
things before I posted the question.

So far I've been reading and trying to come up to speed and I really
like what I see. I will definitely continue to explore it and
hopefully use it in a production system one day.

Regards,

Alfredo

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 4:53 PM, mm_202 <mastermind202 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil
> <lawwton at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am pretty sincere when I say "I appreciate the help", otherwise I
>> wouldn't say it. I don't think I've argued in any of my previous
>> statements and I've tried to be very polite when raising questions or
>> concerns. Disagreeing in a polite way doesn't necessarily mean that I
>> am 100% rejecting the idea and by the way it's not a bad thing to
>> disagree. No one said "You are wrong"; but "I disagree". There is a
>> difference there.
>>
>> If you expect to put a system out there and new users that have used
>> other ones not to ask why this or that I think you'll keep running
>> into this with other people. No one is criticizing or putting down the
>> system here, on the contrary I am trying to simply find out how it
>> works so I can use it. But things like reloading configurations and
>> specific system details that are quite different when compared to
>> others (alias for instance which I am still not sure what would break
>> if removed) do require some asking if after reading the online
>> documentation and previous archived messages the reason is still not
>> clear.
>>
>> So I am not sure how you expect people to ask questions or if this is
>> more a "this is what it is" take it or leave it dictatorship approach.
>> Not the paradigm followed in open source projects where collaboration,
>> asking and questioning is usually the  way to go.
>>
>> Interestingly enough in this one case I DON'T APPRECIATE YOUR
>> RESPONSE. Now tell me if that doesn't sound sincere to you. In any
>> case I will continue to play with the system and possibly ask
>> questions as well.
>>
>> Alfredo
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Anthony Minessale
>> <anthony.minessale at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > We do offer a triple your money back guarentee!
>> >
>> > Many params can change without restarting and many can't ip/port fo
>> > example.  FYI, You don't sound sincere when you use the term appriciate
>> > when
>> > you are arguing with these guys voulenteering to help explain it to you.
>> > You should make sure you make the most of their assistance as they could
>> > have just said rtfm
>> >
>> > On Jan 16, 2010 11:07 PM, "Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil" <lawwton at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > mm_202:
>> >
>> > Thanks for the reply.
>> >
>> > I don't agree with your statement: "In a production system, you
>> >
>> > *shouldnt* have to change the main profiles at all."
>> >
>> > I think it's always good to be able to reload things dynamically in a
>> > non-disruptive way.
>> >
>> > The alias is a bit unusual. To be honest I had never seen that before
>> > in any of the Telecommunication Systems I've worked on. Not that is
>> > not a good idea, just one that at first glance doesn't seem too clear
>> > for some reason. Specially when you see two profiles both representing
>> > the same object listed under "sofia status". Being forced to have the
>> > alias doesn't seem like an appealing option, should be optional I
>> > think. I would like if possible a more detailed explanation on what
>> > would break if not present.
>> >
>> > In any case, I am sure there is a reason for these things. I am trying
>> > to understand how they all work together. Things are not as apparent
>> > in FS at first glance when compared to other systems; but the platform
>> > seems to be built with the purpose of offering a lot of flexibility
>> > which is really good.
>> >
>> > Appreciate the feedback.
>> >
>> > Alfredo Q-V
>> >
>> > Appreciate the help,
>> >
>> > Alfredo
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:35 PM, mm_202 <mastermind202 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote: >
>> >> On Sat, Jan 16, 201...
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> Alfredo,
>
> What I meant by "In a production system, you *shouldnt* have to change the
> main profiles at all", I meant core things like IP address / port; once they
> are setup, they shouldnt change. FreeSWITCH is extremely dynamic and almost
> everything can be changed on the fly without impacting production.
>
> When I first started using FS, I was also a bit curious why there were
> profile aliases, but I assure you that they are NOT a bad thing.  Just play
> with FS some more and get a feel for it, you may even run into a situation
> when you actually need the aliases :)
>
> As for Anthony Minessale (anthm), he is the main creator of FreeSWITCH.  He
> constantly deals with new users critizing FS before even using it and/or
> reading the docs, hence he can come off quite direct sometimes. I would
> guess that there was just a misunderstanding between you two.
>
> Regardless, hopefully you'll continue to play with FS and see what myself
> and so many other people did, -- a kickass system!
>
> -- mm_202.
>
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