[Freeswitch-users] sip_profiles - Aliases Question

Sun Jan 17 15:09:14 PST 2010

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil <lawwton at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Thanks mm_202.
>
> Yeah, I figured he was having a bad day or something, don't think my
> reply to you was offensive or contained criticism in any way. So I
> said that I really appreciated your help which I of course meant. To
> see his response was a bit of a shocker since I made sure I stated I
> understood most of the time things are done in a way for a reason. I
> had also spent a bit of time reading up documentation and trying
> things before I posted the question.
>
> So far I've been reading and trying to come up to speed and I really
> like what I see. I will definitely continue to explore it and
> hopefully use it in a production system one day.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alfredo
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 4:53 PM, mm_202 <mastermind202 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil
> > <lawwton at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am pretty sincere when I say "I appreciate the help", otherwise I
> >> wouldn't say it. I don't think I've argued in any of my previous
> >> statements and I've tried to be very polite when raising questions or
> >> concerns. Disagreeing in a polite way doesn't necessarily mean that I
> >> am 100% rejecting the idea and by the way it's not a bad thing to
> >> disagree. No one said "You are wrong"; but "I disagree". There is a
> >> difference there.
> >>
> >> If you expect to put a system out there and new users that have used
> >> other ones not to ask why this or that I think you'll keep running
> >> into this with other people. No one is criticizing or putting down the
> >> system here, on the contrary I am trying to simply find out how it
> >> works so I can use it. But things like reloading configurations and
> >> specific system details that are quite different when compared to
> >> others (alias for instance which I am still not sure what would break
> >> if removed) do require some asking if after reading the online
> >> documentation and previous archived messages the reason is still not
> >> clear.
> >>
> >> So I am not sure how you expect people to ask questions or if this is
> >> more a "this is what it is" take it or leave it dictatorship approach.
> >> Not the paradigm followed in open source projects where collaboration,
> >> asking and questioning is usually the  way to go.
> >>
> >> Interestingly enough in this one case I DON'T APPRECIATE YOUR
> >> RESPONSE. Now tell me if that doesn't sound sincere to you. In any
> >> case I will continue to play with the system and possibly ask
> >> questions as well.
> >>
> >> Alfredo
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Anthony Minessale
> >> <anthony.minessale at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > We do offer a triple your money back guarentee!
> >> >
> >> > Many params can change without restarting and many can't ip/port fo
> >> > example.  FYI, You don't sound sincere when you use the term
> appriciate
> >> > when
> >> > you are arguing with these guys voulenteering to help explain it to
> you.
> >> > You should make sure you make the most of their assistance as they
> could
> >> > have just said rtfm
> >> >
> >> > On Jan 16, 2010 11:07 PM, "Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil" <
> lawwton at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > mm_202:
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the reply.
> >> >
> >> > I don't agree with your statement: "In a production system, you
> >> >
> >> > *shouldnt* have to change the main profiles at all."
> >> >
> >> > I think it's always good to be able to reload things dynamically in a
> >> > non-disruptive way.
> >> >
> >> > The alias is a bit unusual. To be honest I had never seen that before
> >> > in any of the Telecommunication Systems I've worked on. Not that is
> >> > not a good idea, just one that at first glance doesn't seem too clear
> >> > for some reason. Specially when you see two profiles both representing
> >> > the same object listed under "sofia status". Being forced to have the
> >> > alias doesn't seem like an appealing option, should be optional I
> >> > think. I would like if possible a more detailed explanation on what
> >> > would break if not present.
> >> >
> >> > In any case, I am sure there is a reason for these things. I am trying
> >> > to understand how they all work together. Things are not as apparent
> >> > in FS at first glance when compared to other systems; but the platform
> >> > seems to be built with the purpose of offering a lot of flexibility
> >> > which is really good.
> >> >
> >> > Appreciate the feedback.
> >> >
> >> > Alfredo Q-V
> >> >
> >> > Appreciate the help,
> >> >
> >> > Alfredo
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:35 PM, mm_202 <mastermind202 at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote: >
> >> >> On Sat, Jan 16, 201...
> >> >
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> > Alfredo,
> >
> > What I meant by "In a production system, you *shouldnt* have to change
> the
> > main profiles at all", I meant core things like IP address / port; once
> they
> > are setup, they shouldnt change. FreeSWITCH is extremely dynamic and
> almost
> > everything can be changed on the fly without impacting production.
> >
> > When I first started using FS, I was also a bit curious why there were
> > profile aliases, but I assure you that they are NOT a bad thing.  Just
> play
> > with FS some more and get a feel for it, you may even run into a
> situation
> > when you actually need the aliases :)
> >
> > As for Anthony Minessale (anthm), he is the main creator of FreeSWITCH.
> He
> > constantly deals with new users critizing FS before even using it and/or
> > reading the docs, hence he can come off quite direct sometimes. I would
> > guess that there was just a misunderstanding between you two.
> >
> > Regardless, hopefully you'll continue to play with FS and see what myself
> > and so many other people did, -- a kickass system!
> >
> > -- mm_202.
> >
> >
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Excellent to hear!  If you have any more questions or even curiosities,
don't hesitate to ask.
The FS community is great in answering even the most perplexing questions.

You should also (if you havent yet) join us on IRC in #freeswitch (
irc.freenode.net), you'll get answers much
quicker and see more of the 'community'.

-- mm_202.
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