<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lawwton@gmail.com">lawwton@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Thanks mm_202.<br>
<br>
Yeah, I figured he was having a bad day or something, don't think my<br>
reply to you was offensive or contained criticism in any way. So I<br>
said that I really appreciated your help which I of course meant. To<br>
see his response was a bit of a shocker since I made sure I stated I<br>
understood most of the time things are done in a way for a reason. I<br>
had also spent a bit of time reading up documentation and trying<br>
things before I posted the question.<br>
<br>
So far I've been reading and trying to come up to speed and I really<br>
like what I see. I will definitely continue to explore it and<br>
hopefully use it in a production system one day.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
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Alfredo<br>
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On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 4:53 PM, mm_202 <<a href="mailto:mastermind202@gmail.com">mastermind202@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil<br>
> <<a href="mailto:lawwton@gmail.com">lawwton@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I am pretty sincere when I say "I appreciate the help", otherwise I<br>
>> wouldn't say it. I don't think I've argued in any of my previous<br>
>> statements and I've tried to be very polite when raising questions or<br>
>> concerns. Disagreeing in a polite way doesn't necessarily mean that I<br>
>> am 100% rejecting the idea and by the way it's not a bad thing to<br>
>> disagree. No one said "You are wrong"; but "I disagree". There is a<br>
>> difference there.<br>
>><br>
>> If you expect to put a system out there and new users that have used<br>
>> other ones not to ask why this or that I think you'll keep running<br>
>> into this with other people. No one is criticizing or putting down the<br>
>> system here, on the contrary I am trying to simply find out how it<br>
>> works so I can use it. But things like reloading configurations and<br>
>> specific system details that are quite different when compared to<br>
>> others (alias for instance which I am still not sure what would break<br>
>> if removed) do require some asking if after reading the online<br>
>> documentation and previous archived messages the reason is still not<br>
>> clear.<br>
>><br>
>> So I am not sure how you expect people to ask questions or if this is<br>
>> more a "this is what it is" take it or leave it dictatorship approach.<br>
>> Not the paradigm followed in open source projects where collaboration,<br>
>> asking and questioning is usually the way to go.<br>
>><br>
>> Interestingly enough in this one case I DON'T APPRECIATE YOUR<br>
>> RESPONSE. Now tell me if that doesn't sound sincere to you. In any<br>
>> case I will continue to play with the system and possibly ask<br>
>> questions as well.<br>
>><br>
>> Alfredo<br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Anthony Minessale<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:anthony.minessale@gmail.com">anthony.minessale@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > We do offer a triple your money back guarentee!<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Many params can change without restarting and many can't ip/port fo<br>
>> > example. FYI, You don't sound sincere when you use the term appriciate<br>
>> > when<br>
>> > you are arguing with these guys voulenteering to help explain it to you.<br>
>> > You should make sure you make the most of their assistance as they could<br>
>> > have just said rtfm<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Jan 16, 2010 11:07 PM, "Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil" <<a href="mailto:lawwton@gmail.com">lawwton@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > mm_202:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Thanks for the reply.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I don't agree with your statement: "In a production system, you<br>
>> ><br>
>> > *shouldnt* have to change the main profiles at all."<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I think it's always good to be able to reload things dynamically in a<br>
>> > non-disruptive way.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > The alias is a bit unusual. To be honest I had never seen that before<br>
>> > in any of the Telecommunication Systems I've worked on. Not that is<br>
>> > not a good idea, just one that at first glance doesn't seem too clear<br>
>> > for some reason. Specially when you see two profiles both representing<br>
>> > the same object listed under "sofia status". Being forced to have the<br>
>> > alias doesn't seem like an appealing option, should be optional I<br>
>> > think. I would like if possible a more detailed explanation on what<br>
>> > would break if not present.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > In any case, I am sure there is a reason for these things. I am trying<br>
>> > to understand how they all work together. Things are not as apparent<br>
>> > in FS at first glance when compared to other systems; but the platform<br>
>> > seems to be built with the purpose of offering a lot of flexibility<br>
>> > which is really good.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Appreciate the feedback.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Alfredo Q-V<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Appreciate the help,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Alfredo<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:35 PM, mm_202 <<a href="mailto:mastermind202@gmail.com">mastermind202@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote: ><br>
>> >> On Sat, Jan 16, 201...<br>
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> Alfredo,<br>
><br>
> What I meant by "In a production system, you *shouldnt* have to change the<br>
> main profiles at all", I meant core things like IP address / port; once they<br>
> are setup, they shouldnt change. FreeSWITCH is extremely dynamic and almost<br>
> everything can be changed on the fly without impacting production.<br>
><br>
> When I first started using FS, I was also a bit curious why there were<br>
> profile aliases, but I assure you that they are NOT a bad thing. Just play<br>
> with FS some more and get a feel for it, you may even run into a situation<br>
> when you actually need the aliases :)<br>
><br>
> As for Anthony Minessale (anthm), he is the main creator of FreeSWITCH. He<br>
> constantly deals with new users critizing FS before even using it and/or<br>
> reading the docs, hence he can come off quite direct sometimes. I would<br>
> guess that there was just a misunderstanding between you two.<br>
><br>
> Regardless, hopefully you'll continue to play with FS and see what myself<br>
> and so many other people did, -- a kickass system!<br>
><br>
> -- mm_202.<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br>Excellent to hear! If you have any more questions or even curiosities, don't hesitate to ask.<br>The FS community is great in answering even the most perplexing questions.<br><br>
You should also (if you havent yet) join us on IRC in #freeswitch (<a href="http://irc.freenode.net">irc.freenode.net</a>), you'll get answers much<br>quicker and see more of the 'community'.<br><br>-- mm_202.<br>