[Freeswitch-users] VoiceXML

Matt Porter mporter at voice3g.com
Thu Apr 23 22:39:21 PDT 2009


Ya i think there is definately a disconnect between the peer circles that
people run in.
There is major adoption of voicexml by the "big boys", who dont care if the
tool to generate voicexml costs money.. and between the smaller shops that
are sensitive to costs like that.

A key driver for voicexml is portability of the IVR script.
And yes, i do realize that you can probably count on 1 hand how many
real voicexml apps will run on any vendors interpreter with no modification.

But the point is that you arent locked in as hard because 90% of your
scripts will work anywhere.

Think about it though...
Why do you have to pay money to join the club (forum)?
Why do you have to pay money to get certified?

In my mind, keep all the open source projects from offering a low cost
alternative and let them keep themselves occupied with religious arguments
about the best way to format IVR scripts.

You are dancing to their tune!

Im not suggesting FS should have VoiceXML.   As I have pointed out before on
this list, the people that want VoiceXML dont want a half-baked
implementation.
Probably the worst thing to do, is just kinda sorta get it working.. and
then gripe about the lack of adoption.  Its all or nothing.

If people want a RAD IVR environment, with no care of portability... then
what FS offers is perfectly ok and why bother with VoiceXML.




On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:39 PM, mszlazak <mszlazak at aol.com> wrote:

>
> Well if it's for marketing reasons then maybe that's why FS should do it.
> After all, the idea is to get people to try something. Plus it is fast in
> making up a dialogue so someone can quickly test if this will work for what
> they want.
>
> In a previous post, Steve said many don't use it but Voxeo Forums do have
> posts daily on vxml. Maybe it's the first-timers getting their feet wet.
>
>
>
> David Knell wrote:
> >
> > Just sticking 'voice' in front of something doesn't automatically make
> > it a good tool for developing voice applications - there's more
> > marketing here than anything else.  And it's not like adding extensions
> > to an existing language to provide IVR control is anything new: it's
> > exactly what you get if you develop for FS in Javascript, Lua or any of
> > its other supported languages.
> >
> >>From my point of view, as a programmer, VoiceXML is the wrong idiom for
> > development of IVR/telephony services; a procedural language works just
> > fine.  I suspect that I'm not alone, and I further suspect that that's
> > why there's no real push to get VoiceXML supported.
> >
> > --Dave
> >
> >> If you don't like vxml then here is a post on voicePHP
> >>
> >>
> http://www.speechtechblog.com/2009/04/22/voicexml-to-go-down-in-the-third-says-voicephp
> >>
> >> It's from a vendor but there might be some good ideas to get from what
> >> they
> >> are doing.
> >>
> >> FreeSWITCH needs demand to get vxml and it's not there yet. For now, it
> >> looks like the FS community is waiting for demand instead of trying to
> >> create it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> David Knell wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 14:35 -0400, mszlazak at aol.com wrote:
> >> >> Great Idea.
> >> >> Try setting up the exact same dialogue with say Voxeo's VoiceXML
> >> >> system and then with Javascript/Lua and pocketsphinx. It's an order
> of
> >> >> magnitude faster with VoiceXML.
> >> >
> >> > Out of interest, is that using some RAD tool or coding directly in
> >> > VoiceXML?  I ask because VoiceXML strikes me as being a bastard
> >> > abomination of the highest order, whose sole saving grace is that
> >> > it's a standardised bastard abomination.
> >> >
> >> > Or is Pocketsphinx the problem?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers --
> >> >
> >> > Dave
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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