[Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack

[Michael Collins]

How about some SS7 documentation? ;)
-MC

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Remko Kloosterman
<R.Kloosterman at mtel.nl> wrote:
> I've done some SS7 development in the past, using dedicated TX3220 and
> TX4000 signalling boards from NMS Communications (recentlty aquired by
> Dialogic). Even with a lot of commercial documentation available, it's
> horribly complex stuff, especially redundancy. And you need another SS7
> switch to test against for interoperability. And SIP trunks are becoming
> more and more commonly available these days, so one can question if it's
> worth the effort. Still, I would really like it if someone would try and
> develop such a feature.
>
> Off-topic: If you need SS7 and are willing to pay for it, I can recommend
> audiocodes mediant gateways. There's a model available with embedded SS7
> signalling, provided by Teles. And real cheap too, compared to other SS7
> switches.
>
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> [mailto:freeswitch-dev-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] Namens Shane Burrell
> Verzonden: woensdag 28 januari 2009 20:50
> Aan: freeswitch-dev at lists.freeswitch.org
> Onderwerp: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack
>
> Trust me AT&T doesn't have free docs. There are hundreds of ANSI SS7 docs
> and they put alot of work and money to make sure you can't get them via
> google search.   Much of it is not in ITU but many ITU switch support ANSI
> features such as Class 5.  Even with the ITU docs in hand you'll need a
> large team to get it complete enough for Class 4/5 operations anytime soon.
> On Jan 28, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Jan Berger wrote:
>
> Next time try to search if AT&T have a free version of the doc first - you
> might get a suprice.
>
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> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:36:02 -0600
> From: krice at freeswitch.org
> To: freeswitch-dev at lists.freeswitch.org
> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack
>
> Must be nice ;)
>
> Here in the states they want you to pay for documentation on cable pinouts
> and don't even think about getting documentation for something like TCAP
> LIDB without giving up your first born and an arm.
>
>
>
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> From: Jan Berger <janvb at live.com>
> Reply-To: "freeswitch-dev at lists.freeswitch.org"
> <freeswitch-dev at lists.freeswitch.org>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:22:38 +0100
> To: <freeswitch-dev at lists.freeswitch.org>
> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack
>
> I live in Europe - and ITU/ETSI are free :)
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:37:48 -0600
> From: krice at freeswitch.org
> To: freeswitch-dev at lists.freeswitch.org
> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack
>
> That's the same thing we saw...  Everyone wants SS7 but no one wants to help
> fund it... And to make matters worse just getting proper documentation for
> ANSI SS7 is not exactly a cheap endeavor. Unfortunately telecordia and crew
> still want to charge thousands of dollars for the docs when the ITU decided
> ages ago to make those available for free... Even then its still a
> substantial amount of effort to get something working (even if you have
> active links you can use to help understand whats going on)
>
> K
>
>
>
>
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> From: Jan Berger <janvb at live.com>
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> <freeswitch-dev at lists.freeswitch.org>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:30:15 +0100
> To: <freeswitch-dev at lists.freeswitch.org>
> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack
>
> This is a little like the hen and the egg...
>
> No one will support you starting to write a SS7 ++ stack, but once you get
> going and the first stacks turns up, so will business.
>
> Jan
>
>
>
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> From: mike at jerris.com
> To: freeswitch-dev at lists.freeswitch.org
> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:06:11 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack
>
>
> I still see a compelling business case for a foundation supported free open
> source set of libs for the base protocols, commercially supported by
> multiple contributors who build higher level applications using the base
> protocols.  In a situation like this, commercial sponsors can pool resources
> for certification.  Obviously anyone using a modified version would not be
> using certified code but the sponsors who pay for certification would still
> get multiple benefits.
>
> Mike
>
> On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Ken Rice wrote:
>
>
>
> I don't see a non Commercial one getting certification and then getting
> widely used here in the states... That's the problem you have to spend tons
> of time to get them certified... Its not like SIP where they will pretty
> much take anything and everything unfortunately
>
> K
>
> From: Brian West <brian at freeswitch.org>
> Reply-To: "freeswitch-dev at lists.freeswitch.org"
> <freeswitch-dev at lists.freeswitch.org>
> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:59:18 -0600
> To: "freeswitch-dev at lists.freeswitch.org"
> <freeswitch-dev at lists.freeswitch.org>
> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack
>
> We should have an open source one too thats MPL or BSD ... I don't agree
> with selling protocols like this commercially.  Guess thats just the Open
> Source in me wanting that stuff to be free.
>
> /b
>
> On Jan 27, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Ken Rice wrote:
>
> There are things available for this in the commercial space.  One from
> CometSig.com and one from sangoma.  Nothing at this time in the opensource
> arena. (OpenSS7 will not be integrated with freeswitch due to licensing
> issues)
>
> Contact me off list if you are interested in either of the commercial
> versions I can assist you with these things.
>
> Ken
>
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