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I think no. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Pedro Prado <pedroprado@msn.com> wrote:
Hi,
Do you have a group of Brazilians here?
Thanks, Pedro Prado
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We do. :-) João Mesquita On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Itamar Reis Peixoto < itamar@ispbrasil.com.br> wrote:
I think no.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Pedro Prado <pedroprado@msn.com> wrote:
Hi,
Do you have a group of Brazilians here?
Thanks, Pedro Prado
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we do!. roberto On Oct 16, 2009, at 11:25 AM, João Mesquita wrote:
We do. :-)
João Mesquita
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Itamar Reis Peixoto <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br
wrote: I think no.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Pedro Prado <pedroprado@msn.com> wrote:
Hi,
Do you have a group of Brazilians here?
Thanks, Pedro Prado
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Just to let you know, Jeremias Silva from Khomp registered the freeswitchbrasil.org domain. I think there is space to build an wiki with portuguese content there. Fabio Ferrari On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 14:20, Roberto Martins <miles.chet@gmail.com> wrote:
we do!.
roberto On Oct 16, 2009, at 11:25 AM, João Mesquita wrote:
We do. :-)
João Mesquita
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Itamar Reis Peixoto <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br
wrote: I think no.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Pedro Prado <pedroprado@msn.com> wrote:
Hi,
Do you have a group of Brazilians here?
Thanks, Pedro Prado
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instead of creating thousand of small sites, why don't put the content in only place. freeswitch.org already exist, no need for a new domain. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Fabio Ferrari <fabioferrari@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to let you know, Jeremias Silva from Khomp registered the freeswitchbrasil.org domain. I think there is space to build an wiki with portuguese content there.
Fabio Ferrari
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Hello, I wanted to create a forum so we can discuss FreeSWITCH. That person who registered the domain, I can create and host the forum, so we can talk there and ask questions 2009/10/16 Itamar Reis Peixoto <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br>
instead of creating thousand of small sites, why don't put the content in only place.
freeswitch.org already exist, no need for a new domain.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Fabio Ferrari <fabioferrari@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to let you know, Jeremias Silva from Khomp registered the freeswitchbrasil.org domain. I think there is space to build an wiki with portuguese content there.
Fabio Ferrari
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Itamar Reis Peixoto <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br> wrote:
instead of creating thousand of small sites, why don't put the content in only place.
freeswitch.org already exist, no need for a new domain.
This mailing list, the development mailing list, the IRC channel and the FreeSWITCH conference all exist - no need for another "forum".
This mailing list, the development mailing list, the IRC channel and the FreeSWITCH conference all exist - no need for another "forum".
I think he meant a forum in Portuguese. May be it's hard to believe for some people, but not everybody speaks English. Programmers tend to do it by default, but there are a lot of Asterisk users in Brazil or spanish-speaking countries that post daily to spanish and portuguese forums. I don't see a problem with creating a forum in portuguese if it helps to bring adoption of FreeSWTICH. I understand we want to avoid duplication of efforts, but the language barrier is there and is not going to change. -- Moises Silva Software Developer Sangoma Technologies Inc. | 50 McIntosh Drive, Suite 120, Markham ON L3R 9T3 Canada t. 1 905 474 1990 x 128 | e. moy@sangoma.com
I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this initiative. I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they want, after all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and do it. Diego On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Moises Silva <moises.silva@gmail.com>wrote:
This mailing list, the development mailing list, the IRC channel and the
FreeSWITCH conference all exist - no need for another "forum".
I think he meant a forum in Portuguese. May be it's hard to believe for some people, but not everybody speaks English. Programmers tend to do it by default, but there are a lot of Asterisk users in Brazil or spanish-speaking countries that post daily to spanish and portuguese forums. I don't see a problem with creating a forum in portuguese if it helps to bring adoption of FreeSWTICH.
I understand we want to avoid duplication of efforts, but the language barrier is there and is not going to change.
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Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this initiative.
I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they want, after all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and do it.
Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora are concerned; other languages are a different question altogether, though.
Just a heads up, I have talked to Jeremias from Khomp today and he is setting up the wiki. I will personally be adding contents to the that wiki if it ever picks up. Regards, jm On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> wrote:
Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this initiative.
I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they want, after all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and do it.
Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora are concerned; other languages are a different question altogether, though.
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João Mesquita, Could check with Jeremiah or contact me through, so I talk to him about the forum? He could redirect the domain to my hosting server and we can put there the wiki and forums and we can communicate! Rudá Cunha 2009/10/17 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org>
Just a heads up, I have talked to Jeremias from Khomp today and he is setting up the wiki. I will personally be adding contents to the that wiki if it ever picks up.
Regards,
jm
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> wrote:
Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this initiative.
I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they want, after all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and do it.
Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora are concerned; other languages are a different question altogether, though.
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or someone could just ask us for pg.freeswitch.org or whatever other sub-domain to avoid trademark infringement of registering 40 domains with freeswitch in the name for no reason. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rudá Cunha <ruda@ruda.com.br> wrote:
João Mesquita,
Could check with Jeremiah or contact me through, so I talk to him about the forum?
He could redirect the domain to my hosting server and we can put there the wiki and forums and we can communicate!
Rudá Cunha
2009/10/17 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org>
Just a heads up, I have talked to Jeremias from Khomp today and he is
setting up the wiki. I will personally be adding contents to the that wiki if it ever picks up.
Regards,
jm
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> wrote:
Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this initiative.
I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they want, after all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and do it.
Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora are concerned; other languages are a different question altogether, though.
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sub-domain seem to be a very wise choice... ptbr On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Anthony Minessale wrote:
or someone could just ask us for pg.freeswitch.org or whatever other sub-domain to avoid trademark infringement of registering 40 domains with freeswitch in the name for no reason.
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rudá Cunha <ruda@ruda.com.br> wrote: João Mesquita,
Could check with Jeremiah or contact me through, so I talk to him about the forum?
He could redirect the domain to my hosting server and we can put there the wiki and forums and we can communicate!
Rudá Cunha
2009/10/17 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org>
Just a heads up, I have talked to Jeremias from Khomp today and he is setting up the wiki. I will personally be adding contents to the that wiki if it ever picks up.
Regards,
jm
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> wrote: Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this initiative.
I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they want, after all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and do it.
Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora are concerned; other languages are a different question altogether, though.
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I think we strongly lean towards using a sub-domain (if necessary) and maintaining other language content in the same wiki in alternate pages. If the wiki software we are using is not effective to create multiple languages we should find a way to do it all in one. We can set up an additional mailing list if necessary but also we have no issue with going across multiple languages in both the mailing list and in irc. Mike On Oct 17, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Roberto Martins wrote:
sub-domain seem to be a very wise choice... ptbr
On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Anthony Minessale wrote:
or someone could just ask us for pg.freeswitch.org or whatever other sub-domain to avoid trademark infringement of registering 40 domains with freeswitch in the name for no reason.
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rudá Cunha <ruda@ruda.com.br> wrote: João Mesquita,
Could check with Jeremiah or contact me through, so I talk to him about the forum?
He could redirect the domain to my hosting server and we can put there the wiki and forums and we can communicate!
Rudá Cunha
2009/10/17 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org>
Just a heads up, I have talked to Jeremias from Khomp today and he is setting up the wiki. I will personally be adding contents to the that wiki if it ever picks up.
Regards,
jm
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> wrote: Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this initiative.
I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they want, after all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and do it.
Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora are concerned; other languages are a different question altogether, though.
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If we find a better wiki software that does internalization in a better way, I could help porting the documentation over to the new software. The sub-domain idea is also very nice. Diego On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com> wrote:
I think we strongly lean towards using a sub-domain (if necessary) and maintaining other language content in the same wiki in alternate pages. If the wiki software we are using is not effective to create multiple languages we should find a way to do it all in one. We can set up an additional mailing list if necessary but also we have no issue with going across multiple languages in both the mailing list and in irc.
Mike
On Oct 17, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Roberto Martins wrote:
sub-domain seem to be a very wise choice... ptbr
On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Anthony Minessale wrote:
or someone could just ask us for pg.freeswitch.org or whatever other sub-domain to avoid trademark infringement of registering 40 domains with freeswitch in the name for no reason.
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rudá Cunha <ruda@ruda.com.br> wrote: João Mesquita,
Could check with Jeremiah or contact me through, so I talk to him about the forum?
He could redirect the domain to my hosting server and we can put there the wiki and forums and we can communicate!
Rudá Cunha
2009/10/17 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org>
Just a heads up, I have talked to Jeremias from Khomp today and he is setting up the wiki. I will personally be adding contents to the that wiki if it ever picks up.
Regards,
jm
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> wrote: Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this initiative.
I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they want, after all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and do it.
Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora are concerned; other languages are a different question altogether, though.
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Would you be open to test another wiki software, that supports internalization/translation easier, if i am open to port the entire documentation to the new wiki software? On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
If we find a better wiki software that does internalization in a better way, I could help porting the documentation over to the new software.
The sub-domain idea is also very nice.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com> wrote:
I think we strongly lean towards using a sub-domain (if necessary) and maintaining other language content in the same wiki in alternate pages. If the wiki software we are using is not effective to create multiple languages we should find a way to do it all in one. We can set up an additional mailing list if necessary but also we have no issue with going across multiple languages in both the mailing list and in irc.
Mike
On Oct 17, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Roberto Martins wrote:
sub-domain seem to be a very wise choice... ptbr
On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Anthony Minessale wrote:
or someone could just ask us for pg.freeswitch.org or whatever other sub-domain to avoid trademark infringement of registering 40 domains with freeswitch in the name for no reason.
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rudá Cunha <ruda@ruda.com.br> wrote: João Mesquita,
Could check with Jeremiah or contact me through, so I talk to him about the forum?
He could redirect the domain to my hosting server and we can put there the wiki and forums and we can communicate!
Rudá Cunha
2009/10/17 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org>
Just a heads up, I have talked to Jeremias from Khomp today and he is setting up the wiki. I will personally be adding contents to the that wiki if it ever picks up.
Regards,
jm
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> wrote: Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this initiative.
I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they want, after all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and do it.
Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora are concerned; other languages are a different question altogether, though.
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Some interesting pages on the subject. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software http://www.osnews.com/story/21865/Recommend_an_Open_Source_Wiki_Platform On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
Would you be open to test another wiki software, that supports internalization/translation easier, if i am open to port the entire documentation to the new wiki software?
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
If we find a better wiki software that does internalization in a better way, I could help porting the documentation over to the new software.
The sub-domain idea is also very nice.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com> wrote:
I think we strongly lean towards using a sub-domain (if necessary) and maintaining other language content in the same wiki in alternate pages. If the wiki software we are using is not effective to create multiple languages we should find a way to do it all in one. We can set up an additional mailing list if necessary but also we have no issue with going across multiple languages in both the mailing list and in irc.
Mike
On Oct 17, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Roberto Martins wrote:
sub-domain seem to be a very wise choice... ptbr
On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Anthony Minessale wrote:
or someone could just ask us for pg.freeswitch.org or whatever other sub-domain to avoid trademark infringement of registering 40 domains with freeswitch in the name for no reason.
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rudá Cunha <ruda@ruda.com.br> wrote: João Mesquita,
Could check with Jeremiah or contact me through, so I talk to him about the forum?
He could redirect the domain to my hosting server and we can put there the wiki and forums and we can communicate!
Rudá Cunha
2009/10/17 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org>
Just a heads up, I have talked to Jeremias from Khomp today and he is setting up the wiki. I will personally be adding contents to the that wiki if it ever picks up.
Regards,
jm
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> wrote: Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this initiative.
I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they want, after all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and do it.
Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora are concerned; other languages are a different question altogether, though.
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We could also do this for a better documentation. 1. Pick a new wiki engine that does internalization/translation easier. 2. Set some documentation guidelines from the start. 3. Move stuff over to the new wiki. 4. Start with the translation/internalization on the new wiki. Diego On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
Some interesting pages on the subject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software http://www.osnews.com/story/21865/Recommend_an_Open_Source_Wiki_Platform
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
Would you be open to test another wiki software, that supports internalization/translation easier, if i am open to port the entire documentation to the new wiki software?
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
If we find a better wiki software that does internalization in a better way, I could help porting the documentation over to the new software.
The sub-domain idea is also very nice.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com> wrote:
I think we strongly lean towards using a sub-domain (if necessary) and maintaining other language content in the same wiki in alternate pages. If the wiki software we are using is not effective to create multiple languages we should find a way to do it all in one. We can set up an additional mailing list if necessary but also we have no issue with going across multiple languages in both the mailing list and in irc.
Mike
On Oct 17, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Roberto Martins wrote:
sub-domain seem to be a very wise choice... ptbr
On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Anthony Minessale wrote:
or someone could just ask us for pg.freeswitch.org or whatever other sub-domain to avoid trademark infringement of registering 40 domains with freeswitch in the name for no reason.
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rudá Cunha <ruda@ruda.com.br> wrote: João Mesquita,
Could check with Jeremiah or contact me through, so I talk to him about the forum?
He could redirect the domain to my hosting server and we can put there the wiki and forums and we can communicate!
Rudá Cunha
2009/10/17 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org>
Just a heads up, I have talked to Jeremias from Khomp today and he is setting up the wiki. I will personally be adding contents to the that wiki if it ever picks up.
Regards,
jm
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> wrote: Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this initiative. > > I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they want, after > all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and do it.
Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora are concerned; other languages are a different question altogether, though.
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Instead of adding million of different domains for the languages, it would be nice if we only keep wiki.freeswitch.org, and the wiki software provides a list of languages to choose from. Then when we click in one of the languages we have the wiki translated to the desired language. I believe if we go this way we will be more organized, and there is more chances that things will get translated, and we wont be repeating too much information here and there too. Just a thought... I'm open to do this work to make it happen. The different domains per language is a good idea too. Diego On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
We could also do this for a better documentation.
1. Pick a new wiki engine that does internalization/translation easier. 2. Set some documentation guidelines from the start. 3. Move stuff over to the new wiki. 4. Start with the translation/internalization on the new wiki.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
Some interesting pages on the subject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software http://www.osnews.com/story/21865/Recommend_an_Open_Source_Wiki_Platform
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
Would you be open to test another wiki software, that supports internalization/translation easier, if i am open to port the entire documentation to the new wiki software?
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
If we find a better wiki software that does internalization in a better way, I could help porting the documentation over to the new software.
The sub-domain idea is also very nice.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com>wrote:
I think we strongly lean towards using a sub-domain (if necessary) and maintaining other language content in the same wiki in alternate pages. If the wiki software we are using is not effective to create multiple languages we should find a way to do it all in one. We can set up an additional mailing list if necessary but also we have no issue with going across multiple languages in both the mailing list and in irc.
Mike
On Oct 17, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Roberto Martins wrote:
sub-domain seem to be a very wise choice... ptbr
On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Anthony Minessale wrote:
> or someone could just ask us for pg.freeswitch.org or whatever other > sub-domain to avoid trademark infringement of registering 40 domains > with freeswitch in the name for no reason. > > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rudá Cunha <ruda@ruda.com.br> wrote: > João Mesquita, > > Could check with Jeremiah or contact me through, so I talk to him > about the forum? > > He could redirect the domain to my hosting server and we can put > there the wiki and forums and we can communicate! > > Rudá Cunha > > 2009/10/17 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org> > > Just a heads up, I have talked to Jeremias from Khomp today and he > is setting up the wiki. I will personally be adding contents to the > that wiki if it ever picks up. > > Regards, > > jm > > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> > wrote: > Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote: >> I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this > initiative. >> >> I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they > want, after >> all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and > do it. > > Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora are > concerned; > other languages are a different question altogether, though. > > > _______________________________________________ > FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- > users > http://www.freeswitch.org > > > _______________________________________________ > FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- > users > http://www.freeswitch.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- > users > http://www.freeswitch.org > > > > > -- > Anthony Minessale II > > FreeSWITCH http://www.freeswitch.org/ > ClueCon http://www.cluecon.com/ > Twitter: http://twitter.com/FreeSWITCH_wire > > AIM: anthm > MSN:anthony_minessale@hotmail.com<MSN%3Aanthony_minessale@hotmail.com> > GTALK/JABBER/PAYPAL:anthony.minessale@gmail.com<PAYPAL%3Aanthony.minessale@gmail.com> > IRC: irc.freenode.net #freeswitch > > FreeSWITCH Developer Conference > sip:888@conference.freeswitch.org<sip%3A888@conference.freeswitch.org> > iax:guest@conference.freeswitch.org/888 > googletalk:conf+888@conference.freeswitch.org<googletalk%3Aconf%2B888@conference.freeswitch.org> > pstn:213-799-1400 > _______________________________________________ > FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- > users > http://www.freeswitch.org
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Take a look at this for instance: http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/start This uses DokuWiki, check the langauges option at the top (en, de, el, es, fr, etc) and when you click one of them it translates the actual page to the desired language... I'd love to have something like that. Diego On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
Instead of adding million of different domains for the languages, it would be nice if we only keep wiki.freeswitch.org, and the wiki software provides a list of languages to choose from.
Then when we click in one of the languages we have the wiki translated to the desired language.
I believe if we go this way we will be more organized, and there is more chances that things will get translated, and we wont be repeating too much information here and there too.
Just a thought... I'm open to do this work to make it happen.
The different domains per language is a good idea too.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
We could also do this for a better documentation.
1. Pick a new wiki engine that does internalization/translation easier. 2. Set some documentation guidelines from the start. 3. Move stuff over to the new wiki. 4. Start with the translation/internalization on the new wiki.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
Some interesting pages on the subject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software http://www.osnews.com/story/21865/Recommend_an_Open_Source_Wiki_Platform
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
Would you be open to test another wiki software, that supports internalization/translation easier, if i am open to port the entire documentation to the new wiki software?
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
If we find a better wiki software that does internalization in a better way, I could help porting the documentation over to the new software.
The sub-domain idea is also very nice.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com>wrote:
I think we strongly lean towards using a sub-domain (if necessary) and maintaining other language content in the same wiki in alternate pages. If the wiki software we are using is not effective to create multiple languages we should find a way to do it all in one. We can set up an additional mailing list if necessary but also we have no issue with going across multiple languages in both the mailing list and in irc.
Mike
On Oct 17, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Roberto Martins wrote:
> sub-domain seem to be a very wise choice... > ptbr > > > > On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Anthony Minessale wrote: > >> or someone could just ask us for pg.freeswitch.org or whatever other >> sub-domain to avoid trademark infringement of registering 40 domains >> with freeswitch in the name for no reason. >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rudá Cunha <ruda@ruda.com.br> wrote: >> João Mesquita, >> >> Could check with Jeremiah or contact me through, so I talk to him >> about the forum? >> >> He could redirect the domain to my hosting server and we can put >> there the wiki and forums and we can communicate! >> >> Rudá Cunha >> >> 2009/10/17 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org> >> >> Just a heads up, I have talked to Jeremias from Khomp today and he >> is setting up the wiki. I will personally be adding contents to the >> that wiki if it ever picks up. >> >> Regards, >> >> jm >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> >> wrote: >> Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this >> initiative. >>> >>> I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they >> want, after >>> all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and >> do it. >> >> Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora are >> concerned; >> other languages are a different question altogether, though. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list >> FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- >> users >> http://www.freeswitch.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list >> FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- >> users >> http://www.freeswitch.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list >> FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- >> users >> http://www.freeswitch.org >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Anthony Minessale II >> >> FreeSWITCH http://www.freeswitch.org/ >> ClueCon http://www.cluecon.com/ >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/FreeSWITCH_wire >> >> AIM: anthm >> MSN:anthony_minessale@hotmail.com<MSN%3Aanthony_minessale@hotmail.com> >> GTALK/JABBER/PAYPAL:anthony.minessale@gmail.com<PAYPAL%3Aanthony.minessale@gmail.com> >> IRC: irc.freenode.net #freeswitch >> >> FreeSWITCH Developer Conference >> sip:888@conference.freeswitch.org<sip%3A888@conference.freeswitch.org> >> iax:guest@conference.freeswitch.org/888 >> googletalk:conf+888@conference.freeswitch.org<googletalk%3Aconf%2B888@conference.freeswitch.org> >> pstn:213-799-1400 >> _______________________________________________ >> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list >> FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- >> users >> http://www.freeswitch.org > > > _______________________________________________ > FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- > users > http://www.freeswitch.org
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With sub-domains you'll need to start all over and it will be a pain to keep the documentation in-sync. With a wiki that supports real translation it's easier to add a new line with the translation tag or whatever. Diego On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
Take a look at this for instance:
http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/start
This uses DokuWiki, check the langauges option at the top (en, de, el, es, fr, etc) and when you click one of them it translates the actual page to the desired language... I'd love to have something like that.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
Instead of adding million of different domains for the languages, it would be nice if we only keep wiki.freeswitch.org, and the wiki software provides a list of languages to choose from.
Then when we click in one of the languages we have the wiki translated to the desired language.
I believe if we go this way we will be more organized, and there is more chances that things will get translated, and we wont be repeating too much information here and there too.
Just a thought... I'm open to do this work to make it happen.
The different domains per language is a good idea too.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
We could also do this for a better documentation.
1. Pick a new wiki engine that does internalization/translation easier. 2. Set some documentation guidelines from the start. 3. Move stuff over to the new wiki. 4. Start with the translation/internalization on the new wiki.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
Some interesting pages on the subject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software http://www.osnews.com/story/21865/Recommend_an_Open_Source_Wiki_Platform
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
Would you be open to test another wiki software, that supports internalization/translation easier, if i am open to port the entire documentation to the new wiki software?
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
If we find a better wiki software that does internalization in a better way, I could help porting the documentation over to the new software.
The sub-domain idea is also very nice.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com>wrote:
> I think we strongly lean towards using a sub-domain (if necessary) > and > maintaining other language content in the same wiki in alternate > pages. If the wiki software we are using is not effective to create > multiple languages we should find a way to do it all in one. We can > set up an additional mailing list if necessary but also we have no > issue with going across multiple languages in both the mailing list > and in irc. > > Mike > > On Oct 17, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Roberto Martins wrote: > > > sub-domain seem to be a very wise choice... > > ptbr > > > > > > > > On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Anthony Minessale wrote: > > > >> or someone could just ask us for pg.freeswitch.org or whatever > other > >> sub-domain to avoid trademark infringement of registering 40 > domains > >> with freeswitch in the name for no reason. > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rudá Cunha <ruda@ruda.com.br> > wrote: > >> João Mesquita, > >> > >> Could check with Jeremiah or contact me through, so I talk to him > >> about the forum? > >> > >> He could redirect the domain to my hosting server and we can put > >> there the wiki and forums and we can communicate! > >> > >> Rudá Cunha > >> > >> 2009/10/17 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org> > >> > >> Just a heads up, I have talked to Jeremias from Khomp today and he > >> is setting up the wiki. I will personally be adding contents to > the > >> that wiki if it ever picks up. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> jm > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net > > > >> wrote: > >> Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this > >> initiative. > >>> > >>> I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they > >> want, after > >>> all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and > >> do it. > >> > >> Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora > are > >> concerned; > >> other languages are a different question altogether, though. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > >> FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > >> UNSUBSCRIBE: > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- > >> users > >> http://www.freeswitch.org > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > >> FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > >> UNSUBSCRIBE: > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- > >> users > >> http://www.freeswitch.org > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > >> FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > >> UNSUBSCRIBE: > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- > >> users > >> http://www.freeswitch.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Anthony Minessale II > >> > >> FreeSWITCH http://www.freeswitch.org/ > >> ClueCon http://www.cluecon.com/ > >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/FreeSWITCH_wire > >> > >> AIM: anthm > >> MSN:anthony_minessale@hotmail.com<MSN%3Aanthony_minessale@hotmail.com> > >> GTALK/JABBER/PAYPAL:anthony.minessale@gmail.com<PAYPAL%3Aanthony.minessale@gmail.com> > >> IRC: irc.freenode.net #freeswitch > >> > >> FreeSWITCH Developer Conference > >> sip:888@conference.freeswitch.org<sip%3A888@conference.freeswitch.org> > >> iax:guest@conference.freeswitch.org/888 > >> googletalk:conf+888@conference.freeswitch.org<googletalk%3Aconf%2B888@conference.freeswitch.org> > >> pstn:213-799-1400 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > >> FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > >> UNSUBSCRIBE: > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- > >> users > >> http://www.freeswitch.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > > FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > > UNSUBSCRIBE: > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- > > users > > http://www.freeswitch.org > > > _______________________________________________ > FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > UNSUBSCRIBE: > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users > http://www.freeswitch.org >
http://moinmo.in/ is also pretty cool it seems and it's used for the apache wiki and others. http://wiki.apache.org/ It also has i18n support, full text search, etc. Diego On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
With sub-domains you'll need to start all over and it will be a pain to keep the documentation in-sync.
With a wiki that supports real translation it's easier to add a new line with the translation tag or whatever.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
Take a look at this for instance:
http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/start
This uses DokuWiki, check the langauges option at the top (en, de, el, es, fr, etc) and when you click one of them it translates the actual page to the desired language... I'd love to have something like that.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
Instead of adding million of different domains for the languages, it would be nice if we only keep wiki.freeswitch.org, and the wiki software provides a list of languages to choose from.
Then when we click in one of the languages we have the wiki translated to the desired language.
I believe if we go this way we will be more organized, and there is more chances that things will get translated, and we wont be repeating too much information here and there too.
Just a thought... I'm open to do this work to make it happen.
The different domains per language is a good idea too.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
We could also do this for a better documentation.
1. Pick a new wiki engine that does internalization/translation easier. 2. Set some documentation guidelines from the start. 3. Move stuff over to the new wiki. 4. Start with the translation/internalization on the new wiki.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
Some interesting pages on the subject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software
http://www.osnews.com/story/21865/Recommend_an_Open_Source_Wiki_Platform
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
Would you be open to test another wiki software, that supports internalization/translation easier, if i am open to port the entire documentation to the new wiki software?
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com>wrote:
> If we find a better wiki software that does internalization in a > better way, I could help porting the documentation over to the new software. > > The sub-domain idea is also very nice. > > Diego > > > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com>wrote: > >> I think we strongly lean towards using a sub-domain (if necessary) >> and >> maintaining other language content in the same wiki in alternate >> pages. If the wiki software we are using is not effective to create >> multiple languages we should find a way to do it all in one. We can >> set up an additional mailing list if necessary but also we have no >> issue with going across multiple languages in both the mailing list >> and in irc. >> >> Mike >> >> On Oct 17, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Roberto Martins wrote: >> >> > sub-domain seem to be a very wise choice... >> > ptbr >> > >> > >> > >> > On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Anthony Minessale wrote: >> > >> >> or someone could just ask us for pg.freeswitch.org or whatever >> other >> >> sub-domain to avoid trademark infringement of registering 40 >> domains >> >> with freeswitch in the name for no reason. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rudá Cunha <ruda@ruda.com.br> >> wrote: >> >> João Mesquita, >> >> >> >> Could check with Jeremiah or contact me through, so I talk to him >> >> about the forum? >> >> >> >> He could redirect the domain to my hosting server and we can put >> >> there the wiki and forums and we can communicate! >> >> >> >> Rudá Cunha >> >> >> >> 2009/10/17 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org> >> >> >> >> Just a heads up, I have talked to Jeremias from Khomp today and >> he >> >> is setting up the wiki. I will personally be adding contents to >> the >> >> that wiki if it ever picks up. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> jm >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason White < >> jason@jasonjgw.net> >> >> wrote: >> >> Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this >> >> initiative. >> >>> >> >>> I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they >> >> want, after >> >>> all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and >> >> do it. >> >> >> >> Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora >> are >> >> concerned; >> >> other languages are a different question altogether, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list >> >> FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org >> >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- >> >> users >> >> http://www.freeswitch.org >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list >> >> FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org >> >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- >> >> users >> >> http://www.freeswitch.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list >> >> FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org >> >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- >> >> users >> >> http://www.freeswitch.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Anthony Minessale II >> >> >> >> FreeSWITCH http://www.freeswitch.org/ >> >> ClueCon http://www.cluecon.com/ >> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/FreeSWITCH_wire >> >> >> >> AIM: anthm >> >> MSN:anthony_minessale@hotmail.com<MSN%3Aanthony_minessale@hotmail.com> >> >> GTALK/JABBER/PAYPAL:anthony.minessale@gmail.com<PAYPAL%3Aanthony.minessale@gmail.com> >> >> IRC: irc.freenode.net #freeswitch >> >> >> >> FreeSWITCH Developer Conference >> >> sip:888@conference.freeswitch.org<sip%3A888@conference.freeswitch.org> >> >> iax:guest@conference.freeswitch.org/888 >> >> googletalk:conf+888@conference.freeswitch.org<googletalk%3Aconf%2B888@conference.freeswitch.org> >> >> pstn:213-799-1400 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list >> >> FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org >> >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE: >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- >> >> users >> >> http://www.freeswitch.org >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > FreeSWITCH-users mailing list >> > FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org >> > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users >> > UNSUBSCRIBE: >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch- >> > users >> > http://www.freeswitch.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FreeSWITCH-users mailing list >> FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users >> UNSUBSCRIBE: >> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users >> http://www.freeswitch.org >> > >
what about http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/ they give free licenses to open source project, and FS is using JIRA. roberto On Oct 17, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Diego Viola wrote:
http://moinmo.in/ is also pretty cool it seems and it's used for the apache wiki and others.
It also has i18n support, full text search, etc.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote: With sub-domains you'll need to start all over and it will be a pain to keep the documentation in-sync.
With a wiki that supports real translation it's easier to add a new line with the translation tag or whatever.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote: Take a look at this for instance:
http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/start
This uses DokuWiki, check the langauges option at the top (en, de, el, es, fr, etc) and when you click one of them it translates the actual page to the desired language... I'd love to have something like that.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote: Instead of adding million of different domains for the languages, it would be nice if we only keep wiki.freeswitch.org, and the wiki software provides a list of languages to choose from.
Then when we click in one of the languages we have the wiki translated to the desired language.
I believe if we go this way we will be more organized, and there is more chances that things will get translated, and we wont be repeating too much information here and there too.
Just a thought... I'm open to do this work to make it happen.
The different domains per language is a good idea too.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote: We could also do this for a better documentation.
• Pick a new wiki engine that does internalization/translation easier. • Set some documentation guidelines from the start. • Move stuff over to the new wiki. • Start with the translation/internalization on the new wiki.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote: Some interesting pages on the subject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software http://www.osnews.com/story/21865/Recommend_an_Open_Source_Wiki_Platform
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote: Would you be open to test another wiki software, that supports internalization/translation easier, if i am open to port the entire documentation to the new wiki software?
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote: If we find a better wiki software that does internalization in a better way, I could help porting the documentation over to the new software.
The sub-domain idea is also very nice.
Diego
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com> wrote: I think we strongly lean towards using a sub-domain (if necessary) and maintaining other language content in the same wiki in alternate pages. If the wiki software we are using is not effective to create multiple languages we should find a way to do it all in one. We can set up an additional mailing list if necessary but also we have no issue with going across multiple languages in both the mailing list and in irc.
Mike
On Oct 17, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Roberto Martins wrote:
sub-domain seem to be a very wise choice... ptbr
On Oct 17, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Anthony Minessale wrote:
or someone could just ask us for pg.freeswitch.org or whatever other sub-domain to avoid trademark infringement of registering 40 domains with freeswitch in the name for no reason.
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rudá Cunha <ruda@ruda.com.br> wrote: João Mesquita,
Could check with Jeremiah or contact me through, so I talk to him about the forum?
He could redirect the domain to my hosting server and we can put there the wiki and forums and we can communicate!
Rudá Cunha
2009/10/17 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org>
Just a heads up, I have talked to Jeremias from Khomp today and he is setting up the wiki. I will personally be adding contents to the that wiki if it ever picks up.
Regards,
jm
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> wrote: Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this initiative.
I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they want, after all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and do it.
Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora are concerned; other languages are a different question altogether, though.
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we do have a license for this, people didn't seem to like it last time we looked at it, I can't recall why. On Oct 19, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Roberto Martins wrote:
what about http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/ they give free licenses to open source project, and FS is using JIRA.
roberto
+1 for Confluence On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 00:55, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com> wrote:
we do have a license for this, people didn't seem to like it last time we looked at it, I can't recall why.
On Oct 19, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Roberto Martins wrote:
what about http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/ they give free licenses to open source project, and FS is using JIRA.
roberto
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I'm with Anthony, the sub-domain idea is nice, I wish we could find a way to do internalization in our wiki in a easy/elegantly way. Diego On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Anthony Minessale < anthony.minessale@gmail.com> wrote:
or someone could just ask us for pg.freeswitch.org or whatever other sub-domain to avoid trademark infringement of registering 40 domains with freeswitch in the name for no reason.
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rudá Cunha <ruda@ruda.com.br> wrote:
João Mesquita,
Could check with Jeremiah or contact me through, so I talk to him about the forum?
He could redirect the domain to my hosting server and we can put there the wiki and forums and we can communicate!
Rudá Cunha
2009/10/17 João Mesquita <jmesquita@freeswitch.org>
Just a heads up, I have talked to Jeremias from Khomp today and he is
setting up the wiki. I will personally be adding contents to the that wiki if it ever picks up.
Regards,
jm
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net>wrote:
Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm with Moises and with the other people supporting this initiative.
I'm not Brazilian, but they should be able to do whatever they want, after all, that's how open source works, if you can do it go ahead and do it.
Correct. We have enough of them as far as English-language fora are concerned; other languages are a different question altogether, though.
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Anthony Minessale
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Diego Viola
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Fabio Ferrari
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Itamar Reis Peixoto
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Jason White
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João Mesquita
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Michael Jerris
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Moises Silva
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Pedro Prado
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Raffaele P. Guidi
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Roberto Martins
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Rudá Cunha