Retiring the FreeSWITCH Mailing list
FreeSWITCHers, Most of you already know me, but for anyone that doesn’t - I’m one of the founders of FreeSWITCH, and I’m the primary administrator for the mailing list. This mailing list has served the community well for almost 15 years now. As the mailing list has grown continuously larger and been stretched to the limits of its capabilities, it has been running into bigger issues. Especially in the last year, we’ve seen numerous issues that prevent people from joining and participating – bounces, unintended unsubscribes, spam filtering, and more. We didn’t want to shut down the mailing list without having a replacement set up, and a forum was the obvious choice – the community has been requesting a proper forum for years now. In addition to being more easily accessible and searchable, we hope the forum will simply be a better experience for everyone using it compared to the mailing list. To join the new forum, visit forum.signalwire.community - it uses SSO from your free SignalWire account, which allows us to be more lenient with moderation because we've got an assumed level of trust, and also reduces the overall level of spam in the forums. We've got the forum set so you can view without an account, so check it out with no obligation. If you’d like to receive updates via email, you can set that up in your user preferences on the forum. You can even reply to forum topics via email, though you’ll need to visit the forum to start a new topic (top level post). Also note the digest/summary emails will stop sending if you don’t log into the site periodically: currently you need to log in every 180 days. Not interested in the forum, but still looking for community spaces? You’re welcome to join our Community Slack <https://slack.signalwire.community/>, join the subreddit <https://www.reddit.com/r/freeswitch/>, or attend our Office Hours <https://mailchi.mp/freeswitch.org/office-hours>. If you want to continue using the mailing list until we sunset it, you’re welcome to do so. We’ve disabled new sign ups as of today, and we’ll formally stop supporting it as of March 15, 2023. This should give everyone plenty of time to set up in our other community spaces. Thanks, /b -- Brian West | Co-founder and Developer Email: brian@freeswitch.com
This is very bad for me, I have lots of problems with these forums -- very not accessible and very clumsy. Often I can't even navigate these things. I don't think I have proper credentials -- I have a signal wire account somewhere, but don't use it that much. I have been using this platform for many years and I don't want to use any other platform. On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 16:26:06 -0500, Brian West wrote:
[1 <multipart/alternative (7bit)>] [1.1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] FreeSWITCHers,
Most of you already know me, but for anyone that doesn’t - I’m one of the founders of FreeSWITCH, and I’m the primary administrator for the mailing list.
This mailing list has served the community well for almost 15 years now. As the mailing list has grown continuously larger and been stretched to the limits of its capabilities, it has been running into bigger issues. Especially in the last year, we’ve seen numerous issues that prevent people from joining and participating – bounces, unintended unsubscribes, spam filtering, and more.
We didn’t want to shut down the mailing list without having a replacement set up, and a forum was the obvious choice – the community has been requesting a proper forum for years now. In addition to being more easily accessible and searchable, we hope the forum will simply be a better experience for everyone using it compared to the mailing list.
To join the new forum, visit forum.signalwire.community - it uses SSO from your free SignalWire account, which allows us to be more lenient with moderation because we've got an assumed level of trust, and also reduces the overall level of spam in the forums. We've got the forum set so you can view without an account, so check it out with no obligation.
If you’d like to receive updates via email, you can set that up in your user preferences on the forum. You can even reply to forum topics via email, though you’ll need to visit the forum to start a new topic (top level post). Also note the digest/summary emails will stop sending if you don’t log into the site periodically: currently you need to log in every 180 days.
Not interested in the forum, but still looking for community spaces? You’re welcome to join our Community Slack <https://slack.signalwire.community/>, join the subreddit <https://www.reddit.com/r/freeswitch/>, or attend our Office Hours <https://mailchi.mp/freeswitch.org/office-hours>.
If you want to continue using the mailing list until we sunset it, you’re welcome to do so. We’ve disabled new sign ups as of today, and we’ll formally stop supporting it as of March 15, 2023. This should give everyone plenty of time to set up in our other community spaces.
Thanks,
/b
--
Brian West | Co-founder and Developer
Email: brian@freeswitch.com [1.2 <text/html; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] [2 <text/plain; utf-8 (base64)>] _________________________________________________________________________
The FreeSWITCH project is sponsored by SignalWire https://signalwire.com Enhance your FreeSWITCH install with disruptive priced SMS and PSTN services. Build your next product on our scalable cloud platform.
Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community
Professional FreeSWITCH Services sales@freeswitch.com https://freeswitch.com
Official FreeSWITCH Sites https://freeswitch.com/oss https://freeswitch.org/confluence https://cluecon.com
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users https://freeswitch.com
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John, We did look at the accessibility of the forum software we choose, it should work with screen readers or other tools that are used for accessibility on your PC, Let me know if you have any issues with it. Thanks, /b On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 4:55 PM John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
This is very bad for me, I have lots of problems with these forums -- very not accessible and very clumsy.
Often I can't even navigate these things.
I don't think I have proper credentials -- I have a signal wire account somewhere, but don't use it that much.
I have been using this platform for many years and I don't want to use any other platform.
On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 16:26:06 -0500, Brian West wrote:
[1 <multipart/alternative (7bit)>] [1.1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] FreeSWITCHers,
Most of you already know me, but for anyone that doesn’t - I’m one of the founders of FreeSWITCH, and I’m the primary administrator for the mailing list.
This mailing list has served the community well for almost 15 years now.
As
the mailing list has grown continuously larger and been stretched to the limits of its capabilities, it has been running into bigger issues. Especially in the last year, we’ve seen numerous issues that prevent people from joining and participating – bounces, unintended unsubscribes, spam filtering, and more.
We didn’t want to shut down the mailing list without having a replacement set up, and a forum was the obvious choice – the community has been requesting a proper forum for years now. In addition to being more easily accessible and searchable, we hope the forum will simply be a better experience for everyone using it compared to the mailing list.
To join the new forum, visit forum.signalwire.community - it uses SSO from your free SignalWire account, which allows us to be more lenient with moderation because we've got an assumed level of trust, and also reduces the overall level of spam in the forums. We've got the forum set so you can view without an account, so check it out with no obligation.
If you’d like to receive updates via email, you can set that up in your user preferences on the forum. You can even reply to forum topics via email, though you’ll need to visit the forum to start a new topic (top level post). Also note the digest/summary emails will stop sending if you don’t log into the site periodically: currently you need to log in every 180 days.
Not interested in the forum, but still looking for community spaces? You’re welcome to join our Community Slack <https://slack.signalwire.community/ , join the subreddit <https://www.reddit.com/r/freeswitch/>, or attend our Office Hours <https://mailchi.mp/freeswitch.org/office-hours>.
If you want to continue using the mailing list until we sunset it, you’re welcome to do so. We’ve disabled new sign ups as of today, and we’ll formally stop supporting it as of March 15, 2023. This should give everyone plenty of time to set up in our other community spaces.
Thanks,
/b
--
Brian West | Co-founder and Developer
Email: brian@freeswitch.com [1.2 <text/html; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] [2 <text/plain; utf-8 (base64)>] _________________________________________________________________________
The FreeSWITCH project is sponsored by SignalWire https://signalwire.com Enhance your FreeSWITCH install with disruptive priced SMS and PSTN services. Build your next product on our scalable cloud platform.
Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community
Professional FreeSWITCH Services sales@freeswitch.com https://freeswitch.com
Official FreeSWITCH Sites https://freeswitch.com/oss https://freeswitch.org/confluence https://cluecon.com
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users https://freeswitch.com
-- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it?
John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com _________________________________________________________________________
The FreeSWITCH project is sponsored by SignalWire https://signalwire.com Enhance your FreeSWITCH install with disruptive priced SMS and PSTN services. Build your next product on our scalable cloud platform.
Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community
Professional FreeSWITCH Services sales@freeswitch.com https://freeswitch.com
Official FreeSWITCH Sites https://freeswitch.com/oss https://freeswitch.org/confluence https://cluecon.com
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users https://freeswitch.com
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I tried to join the forum, but it requires a captcha and I could not figure out the challenge. One of the reasons I hate forums. Can you bypass this for me? From: FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org> On Behalf Of Brian West Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 4:26 PM To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: [Freeswitch-users] Retiring the FreeSWITCH Mailing list FreeSWITCHers, Most of you already know me, but for anyone that doesn’t - I’m one of the founders of FreeSWITCH, and I’m the primary administrator for the mailing list. This mailing list has served the community well for almost 15 years now. As the mailing list has grown continuously larger and been stretched to the limits of its capabilities, it has been running into bigger issues. Especially in the last year, we’ve seen numerous issues that prevent people from joining and participating – bounces, unintended unsubscribes, spam filtering, and more. We didn’t want to shut down the mailing list without having a replacement set up, and a forum was the obvious choice – the community has been requesting a proper forum for years now. In addition to being more easily accessible and searchable, we hope the forum will simply be a better experience for everyone using it compared to the mailing list. To join the new forum, visit <https://forum.signalwire.community/> forum.signalwire.community - it uses SSO from your free SignalWire account, which allows us to be more lenient with moderation because we've got an assumed level of trust, and also reduces the overall level of spam in the forums. We've got the forum set so you can view without an account, so check it out with no obligation. If you’d like to receive updates via email, you can set that up in your user preferences on the forum. You can even reply to forum topics via email, though you’ll need to visit the forum to start a new topic (top level post). Also note the digest/summary emails will stop sending if you don’t log into the site periodically: currently you need to log in every 180 days. Not interested in the forum, but still looking for community spaces? You’re welcome to join our <https://slack.signalwire.community/> Community Slack, join the <https://www.reddit.com/r/freeswitch/> subreddit, or attend our <https://mailchi.mp/freeswitch.org/office-hours> Office Hours. If you want to continue using the mailing list until we sunset it, you’re welcome to do so. We’ve disabled new sign ups as of today, and we’ll formally stop supporting it as of March 15, 2023. This should give everyone plenty of time to set up in our other community spaces. Thanks, /b -- Brian West | Co-founder and Developer Email: brian@freeswitch.com <mailto:brian@freeswitch.com>
Another problem I seem to have is that your forum does not work with my password manager -- I am using lastpass. On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 16:26:06 -0500, Brian West wrote:
[1 <multipart/alternative (7bit)>] [1.1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] FreeSWITCHers,
Most of you already know me, but for anyone that doesn’t - I’m one of the founders of FreeSWITCH, and I’m the primary administrator for the mailing list.
This mailing list has served the community well for almost 15 years now. As the mailing list has grown continuously larger and been stretched to the limits of its capabilities, it has been running into bigger issues. Especially in the last year, we’ve seen numerous issues that prevent people from joining and participating – bounces, unintended unsubscribes, spam filtering, and more.
We didn’t want to shut down the mailing list without having a replacement set up, and a forum was the obvious choice – the community has been requesting a proper forum for years now. In addition to being more easily accessible and searchable, we hope the forum will simply be a better experience for everyone using it compared to the mailing list.
To join the new forum, visit forum.signalwire.community - it uses SSO from your free SignalWire account, which allows us to be more lenient with moderation because we've got an assumed level of trust, and also reduces the overall level of spam in the forums. We've got the forum set so you can view without an account, so check it out with no obligation.
If you’d like to receive updates via email, you can set that up in your user preferences on the forum. You can even reply to forum topics via email, though you’ll need to visit the forum to start a new topic (top level post). Also note the digest/summary emails will stop sending if you don’t log into the site periodically: currently you need to log in every 180 days.
Not interested in the forum, but still looking for community spaces? You’re welcome to join our Community Slack <https://slack.signalwire.community/>, join the subreddit <https://www.reddit.com/r/freeswitch/>, or attend our Office Hours <https://mailchi.mp/freeswitch.org/office-hours>.
If you want to continue using the mailing list until we sunset it, you’re welcome to do so. We’ve disabled new sign ups as of today, and we’ll formally stop supporting it as of March 15, 2023. This should give everyone plenty of time to set up in our other community spaces.
Thanks,
/b
--
Brian West | Co-founder and Developer
Email: brian@freeswitch.com [1.2 <text/html; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] [2 <text/plain; utf-8 (base64)>] _________________________________________________________________________
The FreeSWITCH project is sponsored by SignalWire https://signalwire.com Enhance your FreeSWITCH install with disruptive priced SMS and PSTN services. Build your next product on our scalable cloud platform.
Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community
Professional FreeSWITCH Services sales@freeswitch.com https://freeswitch.com
Official FreeSWITCH Sites https://freeswitch.com/oss https://freeswitch.org/confluence https://cluecon.com
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users https://freeswitch.com
-- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
Will forum be indexed by Google? On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 at 06:15, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
Another problem I seem to have is that your forum does not work with my password manager -- I am using lastpass.
On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 16:26:06 -0500, Brian West wrote:
[1 <multipart/alternative (7bit)>] [1.1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] FreeSWITCHers,
Most of you already know me, but for anyone that doesn’t - I’m one of the founders of FreeSWITCH, and I’m the primary administrator for the mailing list.
This mailing list has served the community well for almost 15 years now.
As
the mailing list has grown continuously larger and been stretched to the limits of its capabilities, it has been running into bigger issues. Especially in the last year, we’ve seen numerous issues that prevent people from joining and participating – bounces, unintended unsubscribes, spam filtering, and more.
We didn’t want to shut down the mailing list without having a replacement set up, and a forum was the obvious choice – the community has been requesting a proper forum for years now. In addition to being more easily accessible and searchable, we hope the forum will simply be a better experience for everyone using it compared to the mailing list.
To join the new forum, visit forum.signalwire.community - it uses SSO from your free SignalWire account, which allows us to be more lenient with moderation because we've got an assumed level of trust, and also reduces the overall level of spam in the forums. We've got the forum set so you can view without an account, so check it out with no obligation.
If you’d like to receive updates via email, you can set that up in your user preferences on the forum. You can even reply to forum topics via email, though you’ll need to visit the forum to start a new topic (top level post). Also note the digest/summary emails will stop sending if you don’t log into the site periodically: currently you need to log in every 180 days.
Not interested in the forum, but still looking for community spaces? You’re welcome to join our Community Slack <https://slack.signalwire.community/ , join the subreddit <https://www.reddit.com/r/freeswitch/>, or attend our Office Hours <https://mailchi.mp/freeswitch.org/office-hours>.
If you want to continue using the mailing list until we sunset it, you’re welcome to do so. We’ve disabled new sign ups as of today, and we’ll formally stop supporting it as of March 15, 2023. This should give everyone plenty of time to set up in our other community spaces.
Thanks,
/b
--
Brian West | Co-founder and Developer
Email: brian@freeswitch.com [1.2 <text/html; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] [2 <text/plain; utf-8 (base64)>] _________________________________________________________________________
The FreeSWITCH project is sponsored by SignalWire https://signalwire.com Enhance your FreeSWITCH install with disruptive priced SMS and PSTN services. Build your next product on our scalable cloud platform.
Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community
Professional FreeSWITCH Services sales@freeswitch.com https://freeswitch.com
Official FreeSWITCH Sites https://freeswitch.com/oss https://freeswitch.org/confluence https://cluecon.com
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users https://freeswitch.com
-- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it?
John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com _________________________________________________________________________
The FreeSWITCH project is sponsored by SignalWire https://signalwire.com Enhance your FreeSWITCH install with disruptive priced SMS and PSTN services. Build your next product on our scalable cloud platform.
Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community
Professional FreeSWITCH Services sales@freeswitch.com https://freeswitch.com
Official FreeSWITCH Sites https://freeswitch.com/oss https://freeswitch.org/confluence https://cluecon.com
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users https://freeswitch.com
-- Gregor Nanger *CTO* t./f.: 00386 (0) 7 6000 308/309 • m:. 00386 (0)41 756485 • Infomedia d.o.o. • Jerebova 3, Novo mesto, Slovenia • www.infomedia.si
John, sounds like you're running into a couple of issues with signup - will you send me an email separately? I'm an admin and will do my best to get your account set up. Clive, please let us know if you do run into any issues with the forum and your screen reader! If you like, you can also set up your account so you get an hourly, daily, or weekly digest email with new forum topics so you don't have to remember to check in. It's under Preferences, then Emails. You'll have to log in once every 180 days to refresh the 'are you still listening?' timer and keep the emails coming, just FYI. Gregor, yes! Definitely more searchable, both from Google and the forum itself. If anyone else is running into issues or wants to talk about the decision to move to a forum versus the mailing list, feel free to respond here or shoot me an email. *Alexandra Rowell | Community Manager* Email: alexandra.rowell@signalwire.com On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 2:30 AM Gregor Nanger <gregor@infomedia.si> wrote:
Will forum be indexed by Google?
On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 at 06:15, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
Another problem I seem to have is that your forum does not work with my password manager -- I am using lastpass.
On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 16:26:06 -0500, Brian West wrote:
[1 <multipart/alternative (7bit)>] [1.1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] FreeSWITCHers,
Most of you already know me, but for anyone that doesn’t - I’m one of
the
founders of FreeSWITCH, and I’m the primary administrator for the mailing list.
This mailing list has served the community well for almost 15 years now. As the mailing list has grown continuously larger and been stretched to the limits of its capabilities, it has been running into bigger issues. Especially in the last year, we’ve seen numerous issues that prevent people from joining and participating – bounces, unintended unsubscribes, spam filtering, and more.
We didn’t want to shut down the mailing list without having a replacement set up, and a forum was the obvious choice – the community has been requesting a proper forum for years now. In addition to being more easily accessible and searchable, we hope the forum will simply be a better experience for everyone using it compared to the mailing list.
To join the new forum, visit forum.signalwire.community - it uses SSO from your free SignalWire account, which allows us to be more lenient with moderation because we've got an assumed level of trust, and also reduces the overall level of spam in the forums. We've got the forum set so you can view without an account, so check it out with no obligation.
If you’d like to receive updates via email, you can set that up in your user preferences on the forum. You can even reply to forum topics via email, though you’ll need to visit the forum to start a new topic (top level post). Also note the digest/summary emails will stop sending if you don’t log into the site periodically: currently you need to log in every 180 days.
Not interested in the forum, but still looking for community spaces? You’re welcome to join our Community Slack < https://slack.signalwire.community/>, join the subreddit <https://www.reddit.com/r/freeswitch/>, or attend our Office Hours <https://mailchi.mp/freeswitch.org/office-hours>.
If you want to continue using the mailing list until we sunset it, you’re welcome to do so. We’ve disabled new sign ups as of today, and we’ll formally stop supporting it as of March 15, 2023. This should give everyone plenty of time to set up in our other community spaces.
Thanks,
/b
--
Brian West | Co-founder and Developer
Email: brian@freeswitch.com [1.2 <text/html; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] [2 <text/plain; utf-8 (base64)>]
_________________________________________________________________________
The FreeSWITCH project is sponsored by SignalWire
Enhance your FreeSWITCH install with disruptive priced SMS and PSTN services. Build your next product on our scalable cloud platform.
Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community
Professional FreeSWITCH Services sales@freeswitch.com https://freeswitch.com
Official FreeSWITCH Sites https://freeswitch.com/oss https://freeswitch.org/confluence https://cluecon.com
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE: http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users https://freeswitch.com
-- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it?
John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com _________________________________________________________________________
The FreeSWITCH project is sponsored by SignalWire https://signalwire.com Enhance your FreeSWITCH install with disruptive priced SMS and PSTN services. Build your next product on our scalable cloud platform.
Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community
Professional FreeSWITCH Services sales@freeswitch.com https://freeswitch.com
Official FreeSWITCH Sites https://freeswitch.com/oss https://freeswitch.org/confluence https://cluecon.com
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users https://freeswitch.com
-- Gregor Nanger
*CTO* t./f.: 00386 (0) 7 6000 308/309 • m:. 00386 (0)41 756485 • Infomedia d.o.o. • Jerebova 3, Novo mesto, Slovenia • www.infomedia.si _________________________________________________________________________
The FreeSWITCH project is sponsored by SignalWire https://signalwire.com Enhance your FreeSWITCH install with disruptive priced SMS and PSTN services. Build your next product on our scalable cloud platform.
Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community
Professional FreeSWITCH Services sales@freeswitch.com https://freeswitch.com
Official FreeSWITCH Sites https://freeswitch.com/oss https://freeswitch.org/confluence https://cluecon.com
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users https://freeswitch.com
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I do understand that maintaining a mailing list, and all the issues that come with it, is a thankless chore. I run several myself and can relate to the frustration. However, from my perspective, it is by far the most effective way to engage the broadest swath of users, for reasons already outlined by others. Only a small, hardcore group of forum enthusiasts who particularly like that medium will participate in forums; average people won't bother to keep up with the forum because it requires work. The net effect is that people only come to ask a specific question, the number of experts usefully answering questions is reduced, and that users don't stay broadly abreast of trends and project info which would otherwise smile out in some way from their inbox. -- Alex -- Alex Balashov Principal Consultant Evariste Systems LLC Web: https://evaristesys.com Tel: +1-706-510-6800
+1 On 04/01/2023 18:03, Alex Balashov wrote:
I do understand that maintaining a mailing list, and all the issues that come with it, is a thankless chore. I run several myself and can relate to the frustration.
However, from my perspective, it is by far the most effective way to engage the broadest swath of users, for reasons already outlined by others. Only a small, hardcore group of forum enthusiasts who particularly like that medium will participate in forums; average people won't bother to keep up with the forum because it requires work.
The net effect is that people only come to ask a specific question, the number of experts usefully answering questions is reduced, and that users don't stay broadly abreast of trends and project info which would otherwise smile out in some way from their inbox.
-- Alex
We're making a direct effort to foster the tech team here at SignalWire to be able to chime in, answer questions and help those in need. Thanks, /b On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 11:04 AM Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:
I do understand that maintaining a mailing list, and all the issues that come with it, is a thankless chore. I run several myself and can relate to the frustration.
However, from my perspective, it is by far the most effective way to engage the broadest swath of users, for reasons already outlined by others. Only a small, hardcore group of forum enthusiasts who particularly like that medium will participate in forums; average people won't bother to keep up with the forum because it requires work.
The net effect is that people only come to ask a specific question, the number of experts usefully answering questions is reduced, and that users don't stay broadly abreast of trends and project info which would otherwise smile out in some way from their inbox.
-- Alex
-- Alex Balashov Principal Consultant Evariste Systems LLC Web: https://evaristesys.com Tel: +1-706-510-6800
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+1 in agreement with Alex. On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 9:28 AM Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:
I do understand that maintaining a mailing list, and all the issues that come with it, is a thankless chore. I run several myself and can relate to the frustration.
However, from my perspective, it is by far the most effective way to engage the broadest swath of users, for reasons already outlined by others. Only a small, hardcore group of forum enthusiasts who particularly like that medium will participate in forums; average people won't bother to keep up with the forum because it requires work.
The net effect is that people only come to ask a specific question, the number of experts usefully answering questions is reduced, and that users don't stay broadly abreast of trends and project info which would otherwise smile out in some way from their inbox.
-- Alex
-- Alex Balashov Principal Consultant Evariste Systems LLC Web: https://evaristesys.com Tel: +1-706-510-6800
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+1 as well... The list is just better.Sent from my Galaxy -------- Original message --------From: Brandon Armstead <brandon@cryy.com> Date: 2023-02-02 9:05 AM (GMT-05:00) To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Retiring the FreeSWITCH Mailing list +1 in agreement with Alex. On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 9:28 AM Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:I do understand that maintaining a mailing list, and all the issues that come with it, is a thankless chore. I run several myself and can relate to the frustration. However, from my perspective, it is by far the most effective way to engage the broadest swath of users, for reasons already outlined by others. Only a small, hardcore group of forum enthusiasts who particularly like that medium will participate in forums; average people won't bother to keep up with the forum because it requires work. The net effect is that people only come to ask a specific question, the number of experts usefully answering questions is reduced, and that users don't stay broadly abreast of trends and project info which would otherwise smile out in some way from their inbox. -- Alex -- Alex Balashov Principal Consultant Evariste Systems LLC Web: https://evaristesys.com Tel: +1-706-510-6800 _________________________________________________________________________ The FreeSWITCH project is sponsored by SignalWire https://signalwire.com Enhance your FreeSWITCH install with disruptive priced SMS and PSTN services. Build your next product on our scalable cloud platform. Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community Professional FreeSWITCH Services sales@freeswitch.com https://freeswitch.com Official FreeSWITCH Sites https://freeswitch.com/oss https://freeswitch.org/confluence https://cluecon.com FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users https://freeswitch.com
Hello, triggering an email over the mailing list for each new forum post and allowing new mails to the mailing list only over from the forum is a good compromise. Ideally emails submitted to the mailing list shall be automatically mirrored to the forum and vice-versa, but this ideal scenario is maybe not realistic. I run myself mailing lists and I have to say this is really too much hard work to get it right (adjusting anti-spam software; rejecting at SMTP-level emails, which would be otherwise bounced my the mailing list manager (sender used wrong address); DKIM/DMARC, etc). So a hosted mailing list for freeswitch, instead of a self-hosted mailing list server could also be considered. However permitting emails from the forum to the currently installed mailing list shall not be that hard to get right and I think is a good compromise. Greetings Dilyan -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Armstead <brandon@cryy.com> Reply-To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Retiring the FreeSWITCH Mailing list Date: 02/02/2023 03:51:19 PM +1 in agreement with Alex. On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 9:28 AM Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:
I do understand that maintaining a mailing list, and all the issues that come with it, is a thankless chore. I run several myself and can relate to the frustration.
However, from my perspective, it is by far the most effective way to engage the broadest swath of users, for reasons already outlined by others. Only a small, hardcore group of forum enthusiasts who particularly like that medium will participate in forums; average people won't bother to keep up with the forum because it requires work.
The net effect is that people only come to ask a specific question, the number of experts usefully answering questions is reduced, and that users don't stay broadly abreast of trends and project info which would otherwise smile out in some way from their inbox.
-- Alex
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On Thursday 02 February 2023 at 14:51:19, Brandon Armstead wrote:
+1 in agreement with Alex.
I don't know how many +1s you've had so far, but this is another one. I think Alex has expressed extremely well why forums are not as effective as lists. I would also simply add that I am on quite a number of mailing lists, and it's very convenient to deal with them all in one email client. If each one were replaced by a forum, I would need multiple logged-in windows in a browser, and have to actively switch back and forth between them to see if there were new messages. This is the biggest thing for me which makes forums highly unproductive. Antony.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 9:28 AM Alex Balashov wrote:
I do understand that maintaining a mailing list, and all the issues that come with it, is a thankless chore. I run several myself and can relate to the frustration.
However, from my perspective, it is by far the most effective way to engage the broadest swath of users, for reasons already outlined by others. Only a small, hardcore group of forum enthusiasts who particularly like that medium will participate in forums; average people won't bother to keep up with the forum because it requires work.
The net effect is that people only come to ask a specific question, the number of experts usefully answering questions is reduced, and that users don't stay broadly abreast of trends and project info which would otherwise smile out in some way from their inbox.
-- #define SIX 1+5 #define NINE 8+1 int main() { printf("%d\n", SIX * NINE); } - thanks to ECB for bringing this to my attention Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
Perhaps the new forum could function in a similar way to the mailing list? If you could receive responses via email and respond via email, then it would be the best of both worlds. I know most ticketing systems these days provide this functionality, the same is possible on a forum. ________________________________ From: FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org> on behalf of Antony Stone <Antony.Stone@freeswitch.open.source.it> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 16:40 To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Retiring the FreeSWITCH Mailing list On Thursday 02 February 2023 at 14:51:19, Brandon Armstead wrote:
+1 in agreement with Alex.
I don't know how many +1s you've had so far, but this is another one. I think Alex has expressed extremely well why forums are not as effective as lists. I would also simply add that I am on quite a number of mailing lists, and it's very convenient to deal with them all in one email client. If each one were replaced by a forum, I would need multiple logged-in windows in a browser, and have to actively switch back and forth between them to see if there were new messages. This is the biggest thing for me which makes forums highly unproductive. Antony.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 9:28 AM Alex Balashov wrote:
I do understand that maintaining a mailing list, and all the issues that come with it, is a thankless chore. I run several myself and can relate to the frustration.
However, from my perspective, it is by far the most effective way to engage the broadest swath of users, for reasons already outlined by others. Only a small, hardcore group of forum enthusiasts who particularly like that medium will participate in forums; average people won't bother to keep up with the forum because it requires work.
The net effect is that people only come to ask a specific question, the number of experts usefully answering questions is reduced, and that users don't stay broadly abreast of trends and project info which would otherwise smile out in some way from their inbox.
-- #define SIX 1+5 #define NINE 8+1 int main() { printf("%d\n", SIX * NINE); } - thanks to ECB for bringing this to my attention Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. _________________________________________________________________________ The FreeSWITCH project is sponsored by SignalWire https://signalwire.com Enhance your FreeSWITCH install with disruptive priced SMS and PSTN services. Build your next product on our scalable cloud platform. Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community Professional FreeSWITCH Services sales@freeswitch.com https://freeswitch.com Official FreeSWITCH Sites https://freeswitch.com/oss https://freeswitch.org/confluence https://cluecon.com FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users https://freeswitch.com
It does let you set it up to be just like a mailing list, I understand everyone's aversion to change, It's going to happen, and it will allow everyone to receive help faster. /b On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 1:53 AM Shaun Stokes <shaun@syskonfig.pl> wrote:
Perhaps the new forum could function in a similar way to the mailing list? If you could receive responses via email and respond via email, then it would be the best of both worlds. I know most ticketing systems these days provide this functionality, the same is possible on a forum.
------------------------------ *From:* FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org> on behalf of Antony Stone <Antony.Stone@freeswitch.open.source.it> *Sent:* Thursday, February 2, 2023 16:40 *To:* FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] Retiring the FreeSWITCH Mailing list
On Thursday 02 February 2023 at 14:51:19, Brandon Armstead wrote:
+1 in agreement with Alex.
I don't know how many +1s you've had so far, but this is another one.
I think Alex has expressed extremely well why forums are not as effective as lists.
I would also simply add that I am on quite a number of mailing lists, and it's very convenient to deal with them all in one email client. If each one were replaced by a forum, I would need multiple logged-in windows in a browser, and have to actively switch back and forth between them to see if there were new messages. This is the biggest thing for me which makes forums highly unproductive.
Antony.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 9:28 AM Alex Balashov wrote:
I do understand that maintaining a mailing list, and all the issues that come with it, is a thankless chore. I run several myself and can relate to the frustration.
However, from my perspective, it is by far the most effective way to engage the broadest swath of users, for reasons already outlined by others. Only a small, hardcore group of forum enthusiasts who particularly like that medium will participate in forums; average people won't bother to keep up with the forum because it requires work.
The net effect is that people only come to ask a specific question, the number of experts usefully answering questions is reduced, and that users don't stay broadly abreast of trends and project info which would otherwise smile out in some way from their inbox.
-- #define SIX 1+5 #define NINE 8+1
int main() { printf("%d\n", SIX * NINE); } - thanks to ECB for bringing this to my attention
Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
_________________________________________________________________________
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Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community
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I agree with Brian. Changes are hard, but in the end, it will be better and more organized. 👍 On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 at 14:34, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.com> wrote:
It does let you set it up to be just like a mailing list, I understand everyone's aversion to change, It's going to happen, and it will allow everyone to receive help faster.
/b
On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 1:53 AM Shaun Stokes <shaun@syskonfig.pl> wrote:
Perhaps the new forum could function in a similar way to the mailing list? If you could receive responses via email and respond via email, then it would be the best of both worlds. I know most ticketing systems these days provide this functionality, the same is possible on a forum.
------------------------------ *From:* FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org> on behalf of Antony Stone <Antony.Stone@freeswitch.open.source.it> *Sent:* Thursday, February 2, 2023 16:40 *To:* FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] Retiring the FreeSWITCH Mailing list
On Thursday 02 February 2023 at 14:51:19, Brandon Armstead wrote:
+1 in agreement with Alex.
I don't know how many +1s you've had so far, but this is another one.
I think Alex has expressed extremely well why forums are not as effective as lists.
I would also simply add that I am on quite a number of mailing lists, and it's very convenient to deal with them all in one email client. If each one were replaced by a forum, I would need multiple logged-in windows in a browser, and have to actively switch back and forth between them to see if there were new messages. This is the biggest thing for me which makes forums highly unproductive.
Antony.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 9:28 AM Alex Balashov wrote:
I do understand that maintaining a mailing list, and all the issues that come with it, is a thankless chore. I run several myself and can relate to the frustration.
However, from my perspective, it is by far the most effective way to engage the broadest swath of users, for reasons already outlined by others. Only a small, hardcore group of forum enthusiasts who particularly like that medium will participate in forums; average people won't bother to keep up with the forum because it requires work.
The net effect is that people only come to ask a specific question, the number of experts usefully answering questions is reduced, and that users don't stay broadly abreast of trends and project info which would otherwise smile out in some way from their inbox.
-- #define SIX 1+5 #define NINE 8+1
int main() { printf("%d\n", SIX * NINE); } - thanks to ECB for bringing this to my attention
Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
_________________________________________________________________________
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Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community
Professional FreeSWITCH Services sales@freeswitch.com https://freeswitch.com
Official FreeSWITCH Sites https://freeswitch.com/oss https://freeswitch.org/confluence https://cluecon.com
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users https://freeswitch.com _________________________________________________________________________
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Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community
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Need Commercial support? email sales@freeswitch.com
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Email: brian@freeswitch.com
Mobile: 918-424-9378
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Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community
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Exactly my thoughts, it can be a pain sometimes sifting through conversations in the mailing list, the forum will be an upgrade. ________________________________ From: FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org> on behalf of Gregor Nanger <gregor@infomedia.si> Sent: Friday, February 3, 2023 15:46 To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Retiring the FreeSWITCH Mailing list I agree with Brian. Changes are hard, but in the end, it will be better and more organized. 👍 On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 at 14:34, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.com<mailto:brian@freeswitch.com>> wrote: It does let you set it up to be just like a mailing list, I understand everyone's aversion to change, It's going to happen, and it will allow everyone to receive help faster. /b On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 1:53 AM Shaun Stokes <shaun@syskonfig.pl<mailto:shaun@syskonfig.pl>> wrote: Perhaps the new forum could function in a similar way to the mailing list? If you could receive responses via email and respond via email, then it would be the best of both worlds. I know most ticketing systems these days provide this functionality, the same is possible on a forum. ________________________________ From: FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org<mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org>> on behalf of Antony Stone <Antony.Stone@freeswitch.open.source.it<mailto:Antony.Stone@freeswitch.open.source.it>> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 16:40 To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org<mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org>> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Retiring the FreeSWITCH Mailing list On Thursday 02 February 2023 at 14:51:19, Brandon Armstead wrote:
+1 in agreement with Alex.
I don't know how many +1s you've had so far, but this is another one. I think Alex has expressed extremely well why forums are not as effective as lists. I would also simply add that I am on quite a number of mailing lists, and it's very convenient to deal with them all in one email client. If each one were replaced by a forum, I would need multiple logged-in windows in a browser, and have to actively switch back and forth between them to see if there were new messages. This is the biggest thing for me which makes forums highly unproductive. Antony.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 9:28 AM Alex Balashov wrote:
I do understand that maintaining a mailing list, and all the issues that come with it, is a thankless chore. I run several myself and can relate to the frustration.
However, from my perspective, it is by far the most effective way to engage the broadest swath of users, for reasons already outlined by others. Only a small, hardcore group of forum enthusiasts who particularly like that medium will participate in forums; average people won't bother to keep up with the forum because it requires work.
The net effect is that people only come to ask a specific question, the number of experts usefully answering questions is reduced, and that users don't stay broadly abreast of trends and project info which would otherwise smile out in some way from their inbox.
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Hi Brian, list, As others have said, running a ML can be a PITA. While it changes the way everyone interacts, I have sympathy for the desire to switch to something that doesn't require so much work just to keep it going without random spammers hijacking it. As Brian said, "It's going to happen", and I don't blame him. As this ML runs out of time, I just want to say that the devs have been very helpful over the years, and have done fS and the users proud. People on list have been patient with me trying to set up fS in decidedly non-standard environments. That wouldn't have been possible without such help, so for that, many thanks. As for fS itself, it's hard to remember quite how much better a platform it was than the other SIP stacks that surfaced -- it worked, robustly, from single user agents to full blown call centres & VoIP telco platforms. We take all that for granted now, so it's hard to remember quite how much of a revolution that was. Building that vision and maintaining it was a lot of work (not least, building something on top of sofia must have been a heck of a job), and I'm sure I'm not alone in thanking everyone for making it happen. Personally, apart from helping us explore how to make SRV/NAPTRs work "in the real world", the relative ease to set up Video+Audio multi-person calls just using SIP & RTP was really useful to me, if only to show customers the "art of the possible". This was "old skool", before Web RTC & Verto, and yet it all worked. [... and from experience there were far fewer calls over Skype needed to debug the SIP setup than with the other platforms — ahem - CISCO RTC/*/... - ahem] So ... for all that -- and for free -- Many Thanks. I wish everyone success with the switch, and hope it all works out as well as it has so far. all the best Lawrence
On 3 Feb 2023, at 13:32, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.com> wrote:
It does let you set it up to be just like a mailing list, I understand everyone's aversion to change, It's going to happen, and it will allow everyone to receive help faster.
/b
On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 1:53 AM Shaun Stokes <shaun@syskonfig.pl> wrote: Perhaps the new forum could function in a similar way to the mailing list? If you could receive responses via email and respond via email, then it would be the best of both worlds. I know most ticketing systems these days provide this functionality, the same is possible on a forum.
From: FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org> on behalf of Antony Stone <Antony.Stone@freeswitch.open.source.it> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 16:40 To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Retiring the FreeSWITCH Mailing list On Thursday 02 February 2023 at 14:51:19, Brandon Armstead wrote:
+1 in agreement with Alex.
I don't know how many +1s you've had so far, but this is another one.
I think Alex has expressed extremely well why forums are not as effective as lists.
I would also simply add that I am on quite a number of mailing lists, and it's very convenient to deal with them all in one email client. If each one were replaced by a forum, I would need multiple logged-in windows in a browser, and have to actively switch back and forth between them to see if there were new messages. This is the biggest thing for me which makes forums highly unproductive.
Antony.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 9:28 AM Alex Balashov wrote:
I do understand that maintaining a mailing list, and all the issues that come with it, is a thankless chore. I run several myself and can relate to the frustration.
However, from my perspective, it is by far the most effective way to engage the broadest swath of users, for reasons already outlined by others. Only a small, hardcore group of forum enthusiasts who particularly like that medium will participate in forums; average people won't bother to keep up with the forum because it requires work.
The net effect is that people only come to ask a specific question, the number of experts usefully answering questions is reduced, and that users don't stay broadly abreast of trends and project info which would otherwise smile out in some way from their inbox.
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Gergor, Yes it's going to be indexed. /b On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 4:26 AM Gregor Nanger <gregor@infomedia.si> wrote:
Will forum be indexed by Google?
On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 at 06:15, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
Another problem I seem to have is that your forum does not work with my password manager -- I am using lastpass.
On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 16:26:06 -0500, Brian West wrote:
[1 <multipart/alternative (7bit)>] [1.1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>] FreeSWITCHers,
Most of you already know me, but for anyone that doesn’t - I’m one of
the
founders of FreeSWITCH, and I’m the primary administrator for the mailing list.
This mailing list has served the community well for almost 15 years now. As the mailing list has grown continuously larger and been stretched to the limits of its capabilities, it has been running into bigger issues. Especially in the last year, we’ve seen numerous issues that prevent people from joining and participating – bounces, unintended unsubscribes, spam filtering, and more.
We didn’t want to shut down the mailing list without having a replacement set up, and a forum was the obvious choice – the community has been requesting a proper forum for years now. In addition to being more easily accessible and searchable, we hope the forum will simply be a better experience for everyone using it compared to the mailing list.
To join the new forum, visit forum.signalwire.community - it uses SSO from your free SignalWire account, which allows us to be more lenient with moderation because we've got an assumed level of trust, and also reduces the overall level of spam in the forums. We've got the forum set so you can view without an account, so check it out with no obligation.
If you’d like to receive updates via email, you can set that up in your user preferences on the forum. You can even reply to forum topics via email, though you’ll need to visit the forum to start a new topic (top level post). Also note the digest/summary emails will stop sending if you don’t log into the site periodically: currently you need to log in every 180 days.
Not interested in the forum, but still looking for community spaces? You’re welcome to join our Community Slack < https://slack.signalwire.community/>, join the subreddit <https://www.reddit.com/r/freeswitch/>, or attend our Office Hours <https://mailchi.mp/freeswitch.org/office-hours>.
If you want to continue using the mailing list until we sunset it, you’re welcome to do so. We’ve disabled new sign ups as of today, and we’ll formally stop supporting it as of March 15, 2023. This should give everyone plenty of time to set up in our other community spaces.
Thanks,
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Brian, Before the list closes, can you point me in a direction where I may get some help with mod_python. Most simple python scripts work with no issues but I have run into a few anomalies and dare I say bugs whilst trying to use python as an XML handler. My guess is that very few use python or my questions have been too development orientated for this list. I have pretty much given up on using python for XML handling, switching to mod_xml_curl instead, but I would like to continue being able to call python from the dialplan, however my difficulty in finding help with python in FreeSWITCH has made me concerned about future support for python. Kind regards, Adrian Fretwell
Adrian, We didn't write mod_python, we have gone in and tried to fix things related to it, but it wasn't something we focused on, I noticed you have a PR open on this topic, have you come to our twice monthly FreeSWITCH call to discuss? /b On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 2:31 PM Adrian Fretwell <adrian@a2es.co.uk> wrote:
Brian,
Before the list closes, can you point me in a direction where I may get some help with mod_python. Most simple python scripts work with no issues but I have run into a few anomalies and dare I say bugs whilst trying to use python as an XML handler.
My guess is that very few use python or my questions have been too development orientated for this list. I have pretty much given up on using python for XML handling, switching to mod_xml_curl instead, but I would like to continue being able to call python from the dialplan, however my difficulty in finding help with python in FreeSWITCH has made me concerned about future support for python.
Kind regards,
Adrian Fretwell
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Hi Brian, I have learnt something - I wasn't aware of the twice monthly calls. Despite having taught C programming many years ago, I no longer feel comfortable with it, however, I would be happy to help in maintaining mod_python if I could get a better insight into the module from one of the developers. I noted the email addresses of the developers listed at the head or mod_python3.c but I would not want to email out of the blue as it were. Where will I find details of the monthly calls? Kind regards, Adrian Fretwell On 04/01/2023 20:41, Brian West wrote:
Adrian,
We didn't write mod_python, we have gone in and tried to fix things related to it, but it wasn't something we focused on, I noticed you have a PR open on this topic, have you come to our twice monthly FreeSWITCH call to discuss?
/b
On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 2:31 PM Adrian Fretwell <adrian@a2es.co.uk> wrote:
Brian,
Before the list closes, can you point me in a direction where I may get some help with mod_python. Most simple python scripts work with no issues but I have run into a few anomalies and dare I say bugs whilst trying to use python as an XML handler.
My guess is that very few use python or my questions have been too development orientated for this list. I have pretty much given up on using python for XML handling, switching to mod_xml_curl instead, but I would like to continue being able to call python from the dialplan, however my difficulty in finding help with python in FreeSWITCH has made me concerned about future support for python.
Kind regards,
Adrian Fretwell
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https://mailchi.mp/freeswitch.org/office-hours On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 2:56 PM Adrian Fretwell <adrian@a2es.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Brian,
I have learnt something - I wasn't aware of the twice monthly calls.
Despite having taught C programming many years ago, I no longer feel comfortable with it, however, I would be happy to help in maintaining mod_python if I could get a better insight into the module from one of the developers. I noted the email addresses of the developers listed at the head or mod_python3.c but I would not want to email out of the blue as it were.
Where will I find details of the monthly calls?
Kind regards,
Adrian Fretwell
On 04/01/2023 20:41, Brian West wrote:
Adrian,
We didn't write mod_python, we have gone in and tried to fix things related to it, but it wasn't something we focused on, I noticed you have a PR open on this topic, have you come to our twice monthly FreeSWITCH call to discuss?
/b
On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 2:31 PM Adrian Fretwell <adrian@a2es.co.uk> wrote:
Brian,
Before the list closes, can you point me in a direction where I may get some help with mod_python. Most simple python scripts work with no issues but I have run into a few anomalies and dare I say bugs whilst trying to use python as an XML handler.
My guess is that very few use python or my questions have been too development orientated for this list. I have pretty much given up on using python for XML handling, switching to mod_xml_curl instead, but I would like to continue being able to call python from the dialplan, however my difficulty in finding help with python in FreeSWITCH has made me concerned about future support for python.
Kind regards,
Adrian Fretwell
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As someone new to FS I too have found it hard to get info on how to reach out to anyone…maybe the website needs and update to show community/communication options From: FreeSWITCH-users [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Fretwell Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2023 3:56 PM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Retiring the FreeSWITCH Mailing list Hi Brian, I have learnt something - I wasn't aware of the twice monthly calls. Despite having taught C programming many years ago, I no longer feel comfortable with it, however, I would be happy to help in maintaining mod_python if I could get a better insight into the module from one of the developers. I noted the email addresses of the developers listed at the head or mod_python3.c but I would not want to email out of the blue as it were. Where will I find details of the monthly calls? Kind regards, Adrian Fretwell On 04/01/2023 20:41, Brian West wrote: Adrian, We didn't write mod_python, we have gone in and tried to fix things related to it, but it wasn't something we focused on, I noticed you have a PR open on this topic, have you come to our twice monthly FreeSWITCH call to discuss? /b On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 2:31 PM Adrian Fretwell <adrian@a2es.co.uk <mailto:adrian@a2es.co.uk> > wrote: Brian, Before the list closes, can you point me in a direction where I may get some help with mod_python. Most simple python scripts work with no issues but I have run into a few anomalies and dare I say bugs whilst trying to use python as an XML handler. My guess is that very few use python or my questions have been too development orientated for this list. I have pretty much given up on using python for XML handling, switching to mod_xml_curl instead, but I would like to continue being able to call python from the dialplan, however my difficulty in finding help with python in FreeSWITCH has made me concerned about future support for python. Kind regards, Adrian Fretwell _________________________________________________________________________ The FreeSWITCH project is sponsored by SignalWire https://signalwire.com Enhance your FreeSWITCH install with disruptive priced SMS and PSTN services. Build your next product on our scalable cloud platform. Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community Professional FreeSWITCH Services sales@freeswitch.com <mailto:sales@freeswitch.com> https://freeswitch.com Official FreeSWITCH Sites https://freeswitch.com/oss https://freeswitch.org/confluence https://cluecon.com FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users https://freeswitch.com -- Brian West | Co-founder and Developer Need Commercial support? email sales@freeswitch.com <mailto:sales@freeswitch.com> FreeSWITCH Solutions | <https://maps.google.com/?q=17345+Civic+Drive+%232531+Brookfield,+WI+53045&entry=gmail&source=g> 17345 Civic Drive #2531 Brookfield, WI 53045 Email: brian@freeswitch.com <mailto:brian@freeswitch.com> Mobile: 918-424-9378 Website: <https://www.freeswitch.com/> https://www.FreeSWITCH.com <https://www.facebook.com/freeswitch> <https://twitter.com/freeswitch> _________________________________________________________________________ The FreeSWITCH project is sponsored by SignalWire https://signalwire.com Enhance your FreeSWITCH install with disruptive priced SMS and PSTN services. Build your next product on our scalable cloud platform. Join our online community to chat in real time https://signalwire.community Professional FreeSWITCH Services sales@freeswitch.com <mailto:sales@freeswitch.com> https://freeswitch.com Official FreeSWITCH Sites https://freeswitch.com/oss https://freeswitch.org/confluence https://cluecon.com FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users https://freeswitch.com
Good callout, we're actually working on a community page on the site rounding up all the spaces (forum, Slack, subreddit, events, etc) in one place so everyone has a quick ref for where and how to get help. On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 1:21 PM TTT <lists@telium.io> wrote:
As someone new to FS I too have found it hard to get info on how to reach out to anyone…maybe the website needs and update to show community/communication options
*From:* FreeSWITCH-users [mailto: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] *On Behalf Of *Adrian Fretwell *Sent:* Wednesday, January 4, 2023 3:56 PM *To:* freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] Retiring the FreeSWITCH Mailing list
Hi Brian,
I have learnt something - I wasn't aware of the twice monthly calls.
Despite having taught C programming many years ago, I no longer feel comfortable with it, however, I would be happy to help in maintaining mod_python if I could get a better insight into the module from one of the developers. I noted the email addresses of the developers listed at the head or mod_python3.c but I would not want to email out of the blue as it were.
Where will I find details of the monthly calls?
Kind regards,
Adrian Fretwell
On 04/01/2023 20:41, Brian West wrote:
Adrian,
We didn't write mod_python, we have gone in and tried to fix things related to it, but it wasn't something we focused on, I noticed you have a PR open on this topic, have you come to our twice monthly FreeSWITCH call to discuss?
/b
On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 2:31 PM Adrian Fretwell <adrian@a2es.co.uk> wrote:
Brian,
Before the list closes, can you point me in a direction where I may get some help with mod_python. Most simple python scripts work with no issues but I have run into a few anomalies and dare I say bugs whilst trying to use python as an XML handler.
My guess is that very few use python or my questions have been too development orientated for this list. I have pretty much given up on using python for XML handling, switching to mod_xml_curl instead, but I would like to continue being able to call python from the dialplan, however my difficulty in finding help with python in FreeSWITCH has made me concerned about future support for python.
Kind regards,
Adrian Fretwell
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participants (14)
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Adrian Fretwell
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Alex Balashov
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Alexandra Rowell
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Antony Stone
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Brandon Armstead
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Brian West
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Gregor Nanger
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Jerry Kendall
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Johan Helsingius
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John Covici
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Lawrence Conroy
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Shaun Stokes
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TTT
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Дилян Палаузов