DID providers - any thoughts? (jan 2013)
Hello everyone, I've been recently reviewing several DID providers, and looking for some feedback. I appreciate this isn't totally on topic for FreeSWITCH, but over the last few months I've found the community feedback to be invaluable - so I'm hoping it might open up a good discussion. I would be really interested to hear other peoples experiences with their DID providers, as much detail as possible. There are several providers we've looked at, but they are either reselling others services, or do not deliver the service quality we are looking for. The criteria I've been looking for is; * Able to provide either US or UK numbers * Exposes an API that allows control of purchasing and routing * Guarantees premium call quality, good latency, and inbound CLI. * Does NOT operate on a market/exchange basis * Trading as a telecoms provider for more than 5 years * Has a reputable name within the community or industry So far, I have only found the following providers that meet this criteria; * Hello Telecom - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered, no charges for minutes, rental or concurrent channels. No minimum charges. Excellent call quality/latency, no CLI problems, and almost no downtime in the last 6 months. However, they do not offer a sane purchasing API which makes automation difficult, and interop with FS has been somewhat painful. * Simwood - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered. Slightly more expensive but still very fair. Currently at inter-op stage, so can't comment further - but they seem very good so far. * Voxbone - Most numbers, ITSPA registered. Extremely high minimum spend, difficult to justify unless you already have existing traffic. * BT - UK numbers only (I think), ITSPA registered (of course lol).. Over 9000 pages of inter-op and around £10k in set up fees. Thanks in advance Cal
Shouldn't go without mentioning ukddi.com... It's free, since it's subsidized by incoming traffic compensation. He claims that's more profitable than termination service is, easily allowing him to keep the business running. I've not seen the API, I think it has to be specially activated. He's very responsive to emails. -Avi On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I've been recently reviewing several DID providers, and looking for some feedback.
I appreciate this isn't totally on topic for FreeSWITCH, but over the last few months I've found the community feedback to be invaluable - so I'm hoping it might open up a good discussion.
I would be really interested to hear other peoples experiences with their DID providers, as much detail as possible.
There are several providers we've looked at, but they are either reselling others services, or do not deliver the service quality we are looking for..
The criteria I've been looking for is;
* Able to provide either US or UK numbers * Exposes an API that allows control of purchasing and routing * Guarantees premium call quality, good latency, and inbound CLI. * Does NOT operate on a market/exchange basis * Trading as a telecoms provider for more than 5 years * Has a reputable name within the community or industry
So far, I have only found the following providers that meet this criteria;
* Hello Telecom - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered, no charges for minutes, rental or concurrent channels. No minimum charges. Excellent call quality/latency, no CLI problems, and almost no downtime in the last 6 months. However, they do not offer a sane purchasing API which makes automation difficult, and interop with FS has been somewhat painful.
* Simwood - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered. Slightly more expensive but still very fair. Currently at inter-op stage, so can't comment further - but they seem very good so far.
* Voxbone - Most numbers, ITSPA registered. Extremely high minimum spend, difficult to justify unless you already have existing traffic.
* BT - UK numbers only (I think), ITSPA registered (of course lol).. Over 9000 pages of inter-op and around £10k in set up fees.
Thanks in advance
Cal
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Hi, We are using voiptalk.org for inbound dids (UK, US, AU mostly.) They work with voxbone but without the minimum spend requirement. The only problem may be that they do not provide an API (but this need to be confirmed.) Best Regards, Vallimamod. On Jan 29, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] <cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I've been recently reviewing several DID providers, and looking for some feedback.
I appreciate this isn't totally on topic for FreeSWITCH, but over the last few months I've found the community feedback to be invaluable - so I'm hoping it might open up a good discussion.
I would be really interested to hear other peoples experiences with their DID providers, as much detail as possible.
There are several providers we've looked at, but they are either reselling others services, or do not deliver the service quality we are looking for.
The criteria I've been looking for is;
* Able to provide either US or UK numbers * Exposes an API that allows control of purchasing and routing * Guarantees premium call quality, good latency, and inbound CLI. * Does NOT operate on a market/exchange basis * Trading as a telecoms provider for more than 5 years * Has a reputable name within the community or industry
So far, I have only found the following providers that meet this criteria;
* Hello Telecom - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered, no charges for minutes, rental or concurrent channels. No minimum charges. Excellent call quality/latency, no CLI problems, and almost no downtime in the last 6 months. However, they do not offer a sane purchasing API which makes automation difficult, and interop with FS has been somewhat painful.
* Simwood - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered. Slightly more expensive but still very fair. Currently at inter-op stage, so can't comment further - but they seem very good so far.
* Voxbone - Most numbers, ITSPA registered. Extremely high minimum spend, difficult to justify unless you already have existing traffic.
* BT - UK numbers only (I think), ITSPA registered (of course lol).. Over 9000 pages of inter-op and around £10k in set up fees.
Thanks in advance
Cal
Thank you everyone for the feedback, here is a few comments; @Avi - ukddi.com was down on the first visit, and I couldn't find much trading history behind the company.. The website now redirects to http://www.3c.co.uk but contains very little info. Duedil shows a 'Compulsory strike off' for 3c Limited, the address on the website shows different to the one on company records, and the registered address appears to be a residential. The site also contains no contact info, the whois shows a gmail address as the email contact, and the website is registered to an individual rather than a company (which is actually against Nominet rules!). Now interestingly, his domain points to 'telng.com' which is actually owned by Hello Telecom.. other people associated with TelNG are also connected with Hello Telecom. Either way, all these things set off a lot of alarm bells :/ @Vallimamod VoIPTalk (otherwise known as Telappliant) is for consumer/b2b, not really carrier grade trunking. Although they are re-selling Voxbone without the spend commitment, they are still just another reseller. @Luke Ah, now we had actually spoken with AQL on several occasions, but I was not overly impressed with their legal and sales teams (took weeks of emails to get clear/concise answers). Their concurrent channel charges were quite expensive, and overall we were left with a bad taste from it. However, that being said, they are certainly a reputable company and I couldn't find any negative reviews on them. We didn't get to the inter-op stage so I can't directly comment on service quality, but from what I could tell, their services seemed pretty solid. Cal On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I've been recently reviewing several DID providers, and looking for some feedback.
I appreciate this isn't totally on topic for FreeSWITCH, but over the last few months I've found the community feedback to be invaluable - so I'm hoping it might open up a good discussion.
I would be really interested to hear other peoples experiences with their DID providers, as much detail as possible.
There are several providers we've looked at, but they are either reselling others services, or do not deliver the service quality we are looking for.
The criteria I've been looking for is;
* Able to provide either US or UK numbers * Exposes an API that allows control of purchasing and routing * Guarantees premium call quality, good latency, and inbound CLI. * Does NOT operate on a market/exchange basis * Trading as a telecoms provider for more than 5 years * Has a reputable name within the community or industry
So far, I have only found the following providers that meet this criteria;
* Hello Telecom - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered, no charges for minutes, rental or concurrent channels. No minimum charges. Excellent call quality/latency, no CLI problems, and almost no downtime in the last 6 months. However, they do not offer a sane purchasing API which makes automation difficult, and interop with FS has been somewhat painful.
* Simwood - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered. Slightly more expensive but still very fair. Currently at inter-op stage, so can't comment further - but they seem very good so far.
* Voxbone - Most numbers, ITSPA registered. Extremely high minimum spend, difficult to justify unless you already have existing traffic.
* BT - UK numbers only (I think), ITSPA registered (of course lol).. Over 9000 pages of inter-op and around £10k in set up fees.
Thanks in advance
Cal
Re: UKDDI you can email Dave for more info: dave@3c.co.uk -Avi On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:29 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Thank you everyone for the feedback, here is a few comments;
@Avi - ukddi.com was down on the first visit, and I couldn't find much trading history behind the company.. The website now redirects to http://www.3c.co.uk but contains very little info. Duedil shows a 'Compulsory strike off' for 3c Limited, the address on the website shows different to the one on company records, and the registered address appears to be a residential. The site also contains no contact info, the whois shows a gmail address as the email contact, and the website is registered to an individual rather than a company (which is actually against Nominet rules!). Now interestingly, his domain points to 'telng.com' which is actually owned by Hello Telecom.. other people associated with TelNG are also connected with Hello Telecom. Either way, all these things set off a lot of alarm bells :/
@Vallimamod VoIPTalk (otherwise known as Telappliant) is for consumer/b2b, not really carrier grade trunking. Although they are re-selling Voxbone without the spend commitment, they are still just another reseller.
@Luke Ah, now we had actually spoken with AQL on several occasions, but I was not overly impressed with their legal and sales teams (took weeks of emails to get clear/concise answers). Their concurrent channel charges were quite expensive, and overall we were left with a bad taste from it. However, that being said, they are certainly a reputable company and I couldn't find any negative reviews on them. We didn't get to the inter-op stage so I can't directly comment on service quality, but from what I could tell, their services seemed pretty solid.
Cal
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I've been recently reviewing several DID providers, and looking for some feedback.
I appreciate this isn't totally on topic for FreeSWITCH, but over the last few months I've found the community feedback to be invaluable - so I'm hoping it might open up a good discussion.
I would be really interested to hear other peoples experiences with their DID providers, as much detail as possible.
There are several providers we've looked at, but they are either reselling others services, or do not deliver the service quality we are looking for.
The criteria I've been looking for is;
* Able to provide either US or UK numbers * Exposes an API that allows control of purchasing and routing * Guarantees premium call quality, good latency, and inbound CLI. * Does NOT operate on a market/exchange basis * Trading as a telecoms provider for more than 5 years * Has a reputable name within the community or industry
So far, I have only found the following providers that meet this criteria;
* Hello Telecom - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered, no charges for minutes, rental or concurrent channels. No minimum charges. Excellent call quality/latency, no CLI problems, and almost no downtime in the last 6 months. However, they do not offer a sane purchasing API which makes automation difficult, and interop with FS has been somewhat painful.
* Simwood - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered. Slightly more expensive but still very fair. Currently at inter-op stage, so can't comment further - but they seem very good so far.
* Voxbone - Most numbers, ITSPA registered. Extremely high minimum spend, difficult to justify unless you already have existing traffic.
* BT - UK numbers only (I think), ITSPA registered (of course lol).. Over 9000 pages of inter-op and around £10k in set up fees.
Thanks in advance
Cal
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On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Thank you everyone for the feedback, here is a few comments;
@Avi - ukddi.com was down on the first visit, and I couldn't find much trading history behind the company.. The website now redirects to http://www.3c.co.uk but contains very little info. Duedil shows a 'Compulsory strike off' for 3c Limited, the address on the website shows different to the one on company records, and the registered address appears to be a residential. The site also contains no contact info, the whois shows a gmail address as the email contact, and the website is registered to an individual rather than a company (which is actually against Nominet rules!). Now interestingly, his domain points to 'telng.com' which is actually owned by Hello Telecom.. other people associated with TelNG are also connected with Hello Telecom. Either way, all these things set off a lot of alarm bells :/
@Vallimamod VoIPTalk (otherwise known as Telappliant) is for consumer/b2b, not really carrier grade trunking. Although they are re-selling Voxbone without the spend commitment, they are still just another reseller.
@Luke Ah, now we had actually spoken with AQL on several occasions, but I was not overly impressed with their legal and sales teams (took weeks of emails to get clear/concise answers). Their concurrent channel charges were quite expensive, and overall we were left with a bad taste from it. However, that being said, they are certainly a reputable company and I couldn't find any negative reviews on them. We didn't get to the inter-op stage so I can't directly comment on service quality, but from what I could tell, their services seemed pretty solid.
Cal
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I've been recently reviewing several DID providers, and looking for some feedback.
I appreciate this isn't totally on topic for FreeSWITCH, but over the last few months I've found the community feedback to be invaluable - so I'm hoping it might open up a good discussion.
I would be really interested to hear other peoples experiences with their DID providers, as much detail as possible.
There are several providers we've looked at, but they are either reselling others services, or do not deliver the service quality we are looking for.
The criteria I've been looking for is;
* Able to provide either US or UK numbers * Exposes an API that allows control of purchasing and routing * Guarantees premium call quality, good latency, and inbound CLI. * Does NOT operate on a market/exchange basis * Trading as a telecoms provider for more than 5 years * Has a reputable name within the community or industry
So far, I have only found the following providers that meet this criteria;
* Hello Telecom - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered, no charges for minutes, rental or concurrent channels. No minimum charges. Excellent call quality/latency, no CLI problems, and almost no downtime in the last 6 months. However, they do not offer a sane purchasing API which makes automation difficult, and interop with FS has been somewhat painful.
* Simwood - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered. Slightly more expensive but still very fair. Currently at inter-op stage, so can't comment further - but they seem very good so far.
* Voxbone - Most numbers, ITSPA registered. Extremely high minimum spend, difficult to justify unless you already have existing traffic.
* BT - UK numbers only (I think), ITSPA registered (of course lol).. Over 9000 pages of inter-op and around £10k in set up fees.
Thanks in advance
Cal
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Small Gamma Telecom BT Equiv Virgin Media Business COLT I might also speak to Andrews and Arnold they might not quite fit your initial criteria, but well worth talking to www.aaisp.net
On 01/30/2013 12:29 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote:
Thank you everyone for the feedback, here is a few comments;
Cal, How about http://www.magrathea-telecom.co.uk/ Not sure if they offer US numbers though. Regards, Patrick
I find DIDww not too bad for ad-hoc DID's all over the world. Not sure if it meets your exact criteria. Check out www.didww.com Ash. On 30/01/2013, at 12:00 PM, Patrick Lists <freeswitch-list@puzzled.xs4all.nl> wrote:
On 01/30/2013 12:29 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote:
Thank you everyone for the feedback, here is a few comments;
Cal,
How about http://www.magrathea-telecom.co.uk/ Not sure if they offer US numbers though.
Regards, Patrick
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Hey You should check out flowroute.com also. Great price, great foot print, lots of DIDs including US and Canada. I think they have some 212 also! There support is also truly amazing. You can sign up for a free test account. I have been working with them for a few years now and I love them. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Patrick Lists < freeswitch-list@puzzled.xs4all.nl> wrote:
On 01/30/2013 12:29 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote:
Thank you everyone for the feedback, here is a few comments;
Cal,
How about http://www.magrathea-telecom.co.uk/ Not sure if they offer US numbers though.
Regards, Patrick
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Wow, thank you everyone for all the feedback so far, this really gives a lot of food for thought. Here's a few more comments; Gamma/GBC - We approached Gamma previously (both GBC and Gamma), but their OUTBOUND prices were extremely high and we never got into discussions about inbound only.. their inter-op testing was also quite lengthy and expensive. Although they are not as expensive as BT, I'd say they fit in the same realm as VM and COLT, high costs and complex inter-op, though I can't comment directly. I'd love to go direct with one of the big players, but sadly the upfront costs and inter-op complexity is too much.. maybe when we grow :) Magrathea - Ah yes.. UK numbers only, their initial prices are a little higher than Simwood (at a minimum charge of £100 and 50p/number), but hands down beats BT for pricing and simplicity. Their channel concurrency limits are fair, and the on-going prices after the minimum charge are very reasonable. Highly reputable company and not heard a single bad thing about them so far. They might not be as big as BT, but the name has just as reputable. Certainly worth a look for sure. DIDWW - Any else able to offer some reviews on this company - specifically relating to US inbound?? I've heard some bad things about their service quality and support. Avi - could you elaborate more on your experiences with them? Flowroute - Any else able to offer some reviews on this company - specifically relating to US inbound?? VoipFone / SureVoip / Andrews & Arnold / SipGate - both more suited for b2b, and not carrier grade services - plus I haven't heard great things about either.. might be fine if you have one or two non important numbers, but like Andrew said, not for large volume. So far, out of all these providers, the two UK DID providers that stand out the most for me are Magrathea and Simwood. However, I'm still yet to find a US DID provider with a similar reputation.. any additional feedback on US DID providers would be much appreciated. Thanks Cal On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I've been recently reviewing several DID providers, and looking for some feedback.
I appreciate this isn't totally on topic for FreeSWITCH, but over the last few months I've found the community feedback to be invaluable - so I'm hoping it might open up a good discussion.
I would be really interested to hear other peoples experiences with their DID providers, as much detail as possible.
There are several providers we've looked at, but they are either reselling others services, or do not deliver the service quality we are looking for.
The criteria I've been looking for is;
* Able to provide either US or UK numbers * Exposes an API that allows control of purchasing and routing * Guarantees premium call quality, good latency, and inbound CLI. * Does NOT operate on a market/exchange basis * Trading as a telecoms provider for more than 5 years * Has a reputable name within the community or industry
So far, I have only found the following providers that meet this criteria;
* Hello Telecom - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered, no charges for minutes, rental or concurrent channels. No minimum charges. Excellent call quality/latency, no CLI problems, and almost no downtime in the last 6 months. However, they do not offer a sane purchasing API which makes automation difficult, and interop with FS has been somewhat painful.
* Simwood - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered. Slightly more expensive but still very fair. Currently at inter-op stage, so can't comment further - but they seem very good so far.
* Voxbone - Most numbers, ITSPA registered. Extremely high minimum spend, difficult to justify unless you already have existing traffic.
* BT - UK numbers only (I think), ITSPA registered (of course lol).. Over 9000 pages of inter-op and around £10k in set up fees.
Thanks in advance
Cal
On 01/30/2013 01:59 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote: [snip]
However, I'm still yet to find a US DID provider with a similar reputation.. any additional feedback on US DID providers would be much appreciated.
Did someone mention voip.ms yet? My experience has been positive, they do US & CAN numbers and have an API: http://voip.ms/rates/xml.php Regards, Patrick
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Flowroute - Any else able to offer some reviews on this company - specifically relating to US inbound??
I'm just starting my VoIP venture and I have chosen Flowroute as our provider. So far, mostly as a test, I have transferred one of our AT&T lines to Flowroute. It worked very smoothly. One thing I discovered, which you all probably know, but I'm new with VoIP, was that when I called the number from a POTS line, it went through the PSTN, through Flowroute, through FreeSwitch, and rang on my Polycom phone even before I heard the first ring from the calling phone. Also, the Flowroute tech support team responds very quickly and helpfully. No complaints. -- Steve
+1 here, flowroute has exceeded my expectations in many areas. The fact that they actually have humans available via phone, and even humans who understand the technology quite well. Reliability has been great but you should always plan for a rainy day and have a backup plan, even the biggest and best have issues from time to time chris On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Steven Schoch < schoch+freeswitch.org@xwin32.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Flowroute - Any else able to offer some reviews on this company - specifically relating to US inbound??
I'm just starting my VoIP venture and I have chosen Flowroute as our provider. So far, mostly as a test, I have transferred one of our AT&T lines to Flowroute. It worked very smoothly. One thing I discovered, which you all probably know, but I'm new with VoIP, was that when I called the number from a POTS line, it went through the PSTN, through Flowroute, through FreeSwitch, and rang on my Polycom phone even before I heard the first ring from the calling phone.
Also, the Flowroute tech support team responds very quickly and helpfully.
No complaints.
-- Steve
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Seems that flowroute is getting some good feedback.. If anyone else has comments/feedback about their experiences with this company, please feel free to update the thread. Cal On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:57 AM, chris <tknchris@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 here, flowroute has exceeded my expectations in many areas. The fact that they actually have humans available via phone, and even humans who understand the technology quite well.
Reliability has been great but you should always plan for a rainy day and have a backup plan, even the biggest and best have issues from time to time
chris
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Steven Schoch < schoch+freeswitch.org@xwin32.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Flowroute - Any else able to offer some reviews on this company - specifically relating to US inbound??
I'm just starting my VoIP venture and I have chosen Flowroute as our provider. So far, mostly as a test, I have transferred one of our AT&T lines to Flowroute. It worked very smoothly. One thing I discovered, which you all probably know, but I'm new with VoIP, was that when I called the number from a POTS line, it went through the PSTN, through Flowroute, through FreeSwitch, and rang on my Polycom phone even before I heard the first ring from the calling phone.
Also, the Flowroute tech support team responds very quickly and helpfully.
No complaints.
-- Steve
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I can vouch for Flowroute. I use them as one of my primary providers and have had no problems. In the event you experience a glitch, you can submit a support ticket or call them and they will work with you. Very helpful techs. Rob Unlimited calling to the US and Canada.Visit www.craigcomm.net for more information. Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 21:03:53 +0000 From: cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] DID providers - any thoughts? (jan 2013) Seems that flowroute is getting some good feedback.. If anyone else has comments/feedback about their experiences with this company, please feel free to update the thread. Cal On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:57 AM, chris <tknchris@gmail.com> wrote: +1 here, flowroute has exceeded my expectations in many areas. The fact that they actually have humans available via phone, and even humans who understand the technology quite well. Reliability has been great but you should always plan for a rainy day and have a backup plan, even the biggest and best have issues from time to time chris On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Steven Schoch <schoch+freeswitch.org@xwin32.com> wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] <cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote: Flowroute - Any else able to offer some reviews on this company - specifically relating to US inbound?? I'm just starting my VoIP venture and I have chosen Flowroute as our provider. So far, mostly as a test, I have transferred one of our AT&T lines to Flowroute. It worked very smoothly. One thing I discovered, which you all probably know, but I'm new with VoIP, was that when I called the number from a POTS line, it went through the PSTN, through Flowroute, through FreeSwitch, and rang on my Polycom phone even before I heard the first ring from the calling phone. Also, the Flowroute tech support team responds very quickly and helpfully. No complaints. -- Steve _________________________________________________________________________ Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services: consulting@freeswitch.org http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server http://www.cudatel.com Official FreeSWITCH Sites http://www.freeswitch.org http://wiki.freeswitch.org http://www.cluecon.com FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org _________________________________________________________________________ Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services: consulting@freeswitch.org http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server http://www.cudatel.com Official FreeSWITCH Sites http://www.freeswitch.org http://wiki.freeswitch.org http://www.cluecon.com FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org _________________________________________________________________________ Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services: consulting@freeswitch.org http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server http://www.cudatel.com Official FreeSWITCH Sites http://www.freeswitch.org http://wiki.freeswitch.org http://www.cluecon.com FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Hello, I am using record_session via ESL to record the user/system conversations of a spoken dialogue system. The audio is saved as a wav file. I am also doing the logging from the start of the recording until the user hangs up. I found the recorded audio length is shorter than the time length shown in the log file. Roughly it is 20 seconds shorter in a 10 minutes recording. Googled around, didn't find any clue. ( I did find a similar post which was a year ago and fixed in the newer FS version, I just tried latest FS git head today but still have the same problem as before). Does anybody have any idea about the possible reasons for that? Many thanks! Xing ----- Sunday Times Scottish University of the Year 2011-2013 Top in the UK for student experience Fourth university in the UK and top in Scotland (National Student Survey 2012) We invite research leaders and ambitious early career researchers to join us in leading and driving research in key inter-disciplinary themes. Please see www.hw.ac.uk/researchleaders for further information and how to apply. Heriot-Watt University is a Scottish charity registered under charity number SC000278.
Didforsale is very nice as well. Robert Craig <craig.robert@hotmail.com> wrote:
I can vouch for Flowroute. I use them as one of my primary providers and have had no problems. In the event you experience a glitch, you can submit a support ticket or call them and they will work with you. Very helpful techs.
Rob Unlimited calling to the US and Canada.Visit www.craigcomm.net for more information.
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 21:03:53 +0000 From: cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] DID providers - any thoughts? (jan 2013)
Seems that flowroute is getting some good feedback..
If anyone else has comments/feedback about their experiences with this company, please feel free to update the thread.
Cal
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:57 AM, chris <tknchris@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 here, flowroute has exceeded my expectations in many areas. The fact that they actually have humans available via phone, and even humans who understand the technology quite well.
Reliability has been great but you should always plan for a rainy day and have a backup plan, even the biggest and best have issues from time to time
chris On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Steven Schoch <schoch+freeswitch.org@xwin32.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] <cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Flowroute - Any else able to offer some reviews on this company - specifically relating to US inbound??
I'm just starting my VoIP venture and I have chosen Flowroute as our provider. So far, mostly as a test, I have transferred one of our AT&T lines to Flowroute. It worked very smoothly. One thing I discovered, which you all probably know, but I'm new with VoIP, was that when I called the number from a POTS line, it went through the PSTN, through Flowroute, through FreeSwitch, and rang on my Polycom phone even before I heard the first ring from the calling phone.
Also, the Flowroute tech support team responds very quickly and helpfully. No complaints. -- Steve
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+1 for flowroute. No complaints. Web interface is excellent, I believe they have an api as well. Call quality is good and tech support is great. I've dealt with aidin @ flowroute and he really went over and above to help me diagnose an issue. He did his own packet caps and examined my packet caps as well. In the end it was as simple as me needing to configure our pfsense firewall for symmetric Nat. I use them currently on 3 installations. -- View this message in context: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/DID-providers-any-thoughts-jan... Sent from the freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Just been looking over a few other providers.. VoxBeam look really good, but sadly they do not offer an automation API yet - which is a real kicker for us :( Conexiant also seem good, but they charge per minute and don't list their concurrent channel limits.. is this a common thing among US DID providers?? DIDnumbers seems to have a great range of numbers, good prices, but doesn't seem to have any notable reputation. Out of all of them, Conexiant appear to be the most reputable for US DIDs.. any thoughts??? Cal On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I've been recently reviewing several DID providers, and looking for some feedback.
I appreciate this isn't totally on topic for FreeSWITCH, but over the last few months I've found the community feedback to be invaluable - so I'm hoping it might open up a good discussion.
I would be really interested to hear other peoples experiences with their DID providers, as much detail as possible.
There are several providers we've looked at, but they are either reselling others services, or do not deliver the service quality we are looking for.
The criteria I've been looking for is;
* Able to provide either US or UK numbers * Exposes an API that allows control of purchasing and routing * Guarantees premium call quality, good latency, and inbound CLI. * Does NOT operate on a market/exchange basis * Trading as a telecoms provider for more than 5 years * Has a reputable name within the community or industry
So far, I have only found the following providers that meet this criteria;
* Hello Telecom - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered, no charges for minutes, rental or concurrent channels. No minimum charges. Excellent call quality/latency, no CLI problems, and almost no downtime in the last 6 months. However, they do not offer a sane purchasing API which makes automation difficult, and interop with FS has been somewhat painful.
* Simwood - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered. Slightly more expensive but still very fair. Currently at inter-op stage, so can't comment further - but they seem very good so far.
* Voxbone - Most numbers, ITSPA registered. Extremely high minimum spend, difficult to justify unless you already have existing traffic.
* BT - UK numbers only (I think), ITSPA registered (of course lol).. Over 9000 pages of inter-op and around £10k in set up fees.
Thanks in advance
Cal
Hi, sorry for bumping an old conversation. But I am looking for a ' high quality professional wholesale sip trunk provider' so did you find a US provider? And if so, would you mind to write a short review on them? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/DID-providers-any-thoughts-jan... Sent from the freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Hi Natula, I am ignoring who may or may not be supporters of FreeSwitch for this post. However, I do NOT think that should be ignored when making your selection and support for this product is very important in the long run. You can add that in to your decision after reviewing who meets your needs. I have been VERY pleased with VOIP service level and tech support from www.vitelity.com. There wholesales pricing is quite competitive although I have not shopped around in a year or so. Whole DIDs are $0.49/month, Caller ID service $1/month, E911 $1/month, typical WHOLESALE US calls prices 0.003 per minute (.3 cents). As full disclosure, I was NOT thrilled with their LNP department in the past, but here again have not ported much lately. I lease a server in their facility with FreeSwitch on it at an excellent price. The server lease applies to the wholesale monthly minimum. The server support is absolutely outstanding. I have used www.Voipinnovations.com in the past. Their VOIP Tech support may be the best I ever used, especially LNPs. In many ways I wish I had stayed there, but I am happy enough with Vitelity to not expend the effort to switch back. The VOIP Service provided was also very good. I have used DIDLOGIC, especially as a backup when calls fail to route. However, the sheer number login disconnects and reconnects in the log caused me to drop them. Others may have more recent experience. I have no HARSH things to say, just nagging little stuff I never worked out. I still dabble with VOIP.MS. They have seemed GREAT every time I looked, except they did not offer E911 service. I understand they do now, but again I am settled in at Vitelity so I keep everything at one place. They should certainly be looked over. Hope that helps. Sean Devoy -----Original Message----- From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of naftula Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 5:51 PM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] DID providers - any thoughts? (jan 2013) Hi, sorry for bumping an old conversation. But I am looking for a ' high quality professional wholesale sip trunk provider' so did you find a US provider? And if so, would you mind to write a short review on them? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/DID-providers-any-thoughts-jan... Sent from the freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _________________________________________________________________________ Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services: consulting@freeswitch.org http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server http://www.cudatel.com Official FreeSWITCH Sites http://www.freeswitch.org http://wiki.freeswitch.org http://www.cluecon.com FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Comments inline. On Apr 21, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Sean Devoy <sdevoy@bizfocused.com> wrote:
Hi Natula,
I am ignoring who may or may not be supporters of FreeSwitch for this post. However, I do NOT think that should be ignored when making your selection and support for this product is very important in the long run. You can add that in to your decision after reviewing who meets your needs.
I have been VERY pleased with VOIP service level and tech support from www.vitelity.com. There wholesales pricing is quite competitive although I have not shopped around in a year or so. Whole DIDs are $0.49/month, Caller ID service $1/month, E911 $1/month, typical WHOLESALE US calls prices 0.003 per minute (.3 cents). As full disclosure, I was NOT thrilled with their LNP department in the past, but here again have not ported much lately. I lease a server in their facility with FreeSwitch on it at an excellent price. The server lease applies to the wholesale monthly minimum. The server support is absolutely outstanding.
No t.38, But they do have SMS that works with mod_dingaling (this was demoed at ClueCon last year)
I have used www.Voipinnovations.com in the past. Their VOIP Tech support may be the best I ever used, especially LNPs. In many ways I wish I had stayed there, but I am happy enough with Vitelity to not expend the effort to switch back. The VOIP Service provided was also very good.
Never heard of these guys.
I have used DIDLOGIC, especially as a backup when calls fail to route. However, the sheer number login disconnects and reconnects in the log caused me to drop them. Others may have more recent experience. I have no HARSH things to say, just nagging little stuff I never worked out.
Or these guys.
I still dabble with VOIP.MS. They have seemed GREAT every time I looked, except they did not offer E911 service. I understand they do now, but again I am settled in at Vitelity so I keep everything at one place. They should certainly be looked over.
These guys seem ok too.
Hope that helps. Sean Devoy
I use Flowroute, e911, CNAM Publish and dips for inbound, T.38 works really well. No SMS yet. *MO* WHERE ART THOU SMS!?!? -- Brian West brian@freeswitch.org FreeSWITCH Solutions, LLC PO BOX 2531 Brookfield, WI 53008-2531 Twitter: @FreeSWITCH , @briankwest http://www.freeswitchbook.com http://www.freeswitchcookbook.com T: +1.918.420.9001 | F: +1.918.420.9002 | M: +1.918.424.WEST iNUM: +883 5100 1420 9001 ISN: 410*543 Skype:briankwest PGP Key: http://www.bkw.org:81/key.txt (AB93356707C76CED)
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Comments inline.
On Apr 21, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Sean Devoy <sdevoy@bizfocused.com> wrote:
Hi Natula,
I am ignoring who may or may not be supporters of FreeSwitch for this post. However, I do NOT think that should be ignored when making your selection and support for this product is very important in the long run. You can add that in to your decision after reviewing who meets your needs.
I have been VERY pleased with VOIP service level and tech support from www.vitelity.com. There wholesales pricing is quite competitive although I have not shopped around in a year or so. Whole DIDs are $0.49/month, Caller ID service $1/month, E911 $1/month, typical WHOLESALE US calls prices 0.003 per minute (.3 cents). As full disclosure, I was NOT thrilled with their LNP department in the past, but here again have not ported much lately. I lease a server in their facility with FreeSwitch on it at an excellent price. The server lease applies to the wholesale monthly minimum. The server support is absolutely outstanding.
No t.38, But they do have SMS that works with mod_dingaling (this was demoed at ClueCon last year)
I have used www.Voipinnovations.com in the past. Their VOIP Tech
support may be the best I ever used, especially LNPs. In many ways I wish I had stayed there, but I am happy enough with Vitelity to not expend the effort to switch back. The VOIP Service provided was also very good.
Never heard of these guys.
I have used DIDLOGIC, especially as a backup when calls fail to route.
However, the sheer number login disconnects and reconnects in the log caused me to drop them. Others may have more recent experience. I have no HARSH things to say, just nagging little stuff I never worked out.
Or these guys.
Avoid.
I still dabble with VOIP.MS. They have seemed GREAT every time I
looked, except they did not offer E911 service. I understand they do now, but again I am settled in at Vitelity so I keep everything at one place. They should certainly be looked over.
These guys seem ok too.
Hope that helps. Sean Devoy
I use Flowroute, e911, CNAM Publish and dips for inbound, T.38 works really well. No SMS yet. *MO* WHERE ART THOU SMS!?!?
+1 for flowroute, I've personally never used them but they come highly rated. Clickatell for SMS.
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ziron.net is UK based and has DIDs that are SMS enabled all over the place... Their owner even shows up at ClueCon ( cluecon.com ) on a regular basis On 4/22/14 8:58 AM, "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]" <cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Comments inline.
On Apr 21, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Sean Devoy <sdevoy@bizfocused.com> wrote:
Hi Natula,
I am ignoring who may or may not be supporters of FreeSwitch for this post. However, I do NOT think that should be ignored when making your selection and support for this product is very important in the long run. You can add that in to your decision after reviewing who meets your needs.
I have been VERY pleased with VOIP service level and tech support from www.vitelity.com <http://www.vitelity.com> . There wholesales pricing is quite competitive although I have not shopped around in a year or so. Whole DIDs are $0.49/month, Caller ID service $1/month, E911 $1/month, typical WHOLESALE US calls prices 0.003 per minute (.3 cents). As full disclosure, I was NOT thrilled with their LNP department in the past, but here again have not ported much lately. I lease a server in their facility with FreeSwitch on it at an excellent price. The server lease applies to the wholesale monthly minimum. The server support is absolutely outstanding.
No t.38, But they do have SMS that works with mod_dingaling (this was demoed at ClueCon last year)
I have used www.Voipinnovations.com <http://www.Voipinnovations.com> in
the past. Their VOIP Tech support may be the best I ever used, especially LNPs. In many ways I wish I had stayed there, but I am happy enough with Vitelity to not expend the effort to switch back. The VOIP Service provided was also very good.
Never heard of these guys.
I have used DIDLOGIC, especially as a backup when calls fail to route.
However, the sheer number login disconnects and reconnects in the log caused me to drop them. Others may have more recent experience. I have no HARSH things to say, just nagging little stuff I never worked out.
Or these guys.
Avoid.
I still dabble with VOIP.MS <http://VOIP.MS> . They have seemed GREAT
every time I looked, except they did not offer E911 service. I understand they do now, but again I am settled in at Vitelity so I keep everything at one place. They should certainly be looked over.
These guys seem ok too.
Hope that helps. Sean Devoy
I use Flowroute, e911, CNAM Publish and dips for inbound, T.38 works really well. No SMS yet. *MO* WHERE ART THOU SMS!?!?
+1 for flowroute, I've personally never used them but they come highly rated.
Clickatell for SMS.
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+1 for flowroute. We send all the US traffic from Canada. Never had any issues. Thanks Lloyd On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Ken Rice <krice@freeswitch.org> wrote:
ziron.net is UK based and has DIDs that are SMS enabled all over the place... Their owner even shows up at ClueCon ( cluecon.com ) on a regular basis
On 4/22/14 8:58 AM, "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]" < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Comments inline.
On Apr 21, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Sean Devoy <sdevoy@bizfocused.com> wrote:
Hi Natula,
I am ignoring who may or may not be supporters of FreeSwitch for this post. However, I do NOT think that should be ignored when making your selection and support for this product is very important in the long run. You can add that in to your decision after reviewing who meets your needs.
I have been VERY pleased with VOIP service level and tech support from www.vitelity.com <http://www.vitelity.com> . There wholesales pricing is quite competitive although I have not shopped around in a year or so. Whole DIDs are $0.49/month, Caller ID service $1/month, E911 $1/month, typical WHOLESALE US calls prices 0.003 per minute (.3 cents). As full disclosure, I was NOT thrilled with their LNP department in the past, but here again have not ported much lately. I lease a server in their facility with FreeSwitch on it at an excellent price. The server lease applies to the wholesale monthly minimum. The server support is absolutely outstanding.
No t.38, But they do have SMS that works with mod_dingaling (this was demoed at ClueCon last year)
I have used www.Voipinnovations.com <http://www.Voipinnovations.com>
in the past. Their VOIP Tech support may be the best I ever used, especially LNPs. In many ways I wish I had stayed there, but I am happy enough with Vitelity to not expend the effort to switch back. The VOIP Service provided was also very good.
Never heard of these guys.
I have used DIDLOGIC, especially as a backup when calls fail to route.
However, the sheer number login disconnects and reconnects in the log caused me to drop them. Others may have more recent experience. I have no HARSH things to say, just nagging little stuff I never worked out.
Or these guys.
Avoid.
I still dabble with VOIP.MS <http://VOIP.MS> . They have seemed GREAT
every time I looked, except they did not offer E911 service. I understand they do now, but again I am settled in at Vitelity so I keep everything at one place. They should certainly be looked over.
These guys seem ok too.
Hope that helps. Sean Devoy
I use Flowroute, e911, CNAM Publish and dips for inbound, T.38 works really well. No SMS yet. *MO* WHERE ART THOU SMS!?!?
+1 for flowroute, I've personally never used them but they come highly rated.
Clickatell for SMS.
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Flowrout in my opinion is not an enterprise carrier-grade SIP trunk provider, they are a business consumer provider, the same is with vitality, they are a reseller of someone, I am looking for a real Enterprise provider, I have an option between 'Broadvox' and 'peerless network' does anyone have information on them? -- View this message in context: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/DID-providers-any-thoughts-jan... Sent from the freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Broadvox and Peerless are Resellers of someone else also... Flowroute like every other carrier out there operates their own switching gear, customer service and other departments... Companies like Broadvox do not own 100% of their routes to every end office out there. (and I would guess a very large percentage of their long haul traffic goes to tier 3+ IXCs that you have never even heard of) as is the same with Peerless, Level3, and every other carrier on that level On 4/22/14 12:40 PM, "naftula" <6279611@gmail.com> wrote:
Flowrout in my opinion is not an enterprise carrier-grade SIP trunk provider, they are a business consumer provider, the same is with vitality, they are a reseller of someone, I am looking for a real Enterprise provider, I have an option between 'Broadvox' and 'peerless network' does anyone have information on them?
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+1 In the UK you could go direct with BT or Kcom, but this is really only designed for people who are pushing serious amounts of committed and consistent traffic levels. Rather than looking at your options in terms of "real enterprise providers", look at it in terms of "who are they reselling?". Avoid resellers of resellers, and find the sweet spot between flexibility and cost that suits your use case. Cal On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Ken Rice <krice@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Broadvox and Peerless are Resellers of someone else also... Flowroute like every other carrier out there operates their own switching gear, customer service and other departments...
Companies like Broadvox do not own 100% of their routes to every end office out there. (and I would guess a very large percentage of their long haul traffic goes to tier 3+ IXCs that you have never even heard of) as is the same with Peerless, Level3, and every other carrier on that level
On 4/22/14 12:40 PM, "naftula" <6279611@gmail.com> wrote:
Flowrout in my opinion is not an enterprise carrier-grade SIP trunk provider, they are a business consumer provider, the same is with vitality, they are a reseller of someone, I am looking for a real Enterprise provider, I have an option between 'Broadvox' and 'peerless network' does anyone have information on them?
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One extra thing, the comments made here are specifically relating to the UK market. For the US and other countries, YMMV :) Cal On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
+1
In the UK you could go direct with BT or Kcom, but this is really only designed for people who are pushing serious amounts of committed and consistent traffic levels.
Rather than looking at your options in terms of "real enterprise providers", look at it in terms of "who are they reselling?".
Avoid resellers of resellers, and find the sweet spot between flexibility and cost that suits your use case.
Cal
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Ken Rice <krice@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Broadvox and Peerless are Resellers of someone else also... Flowroute like every other carrier out there operates their own switching gear, customer service and other departments...
Companies like Broadvox do not own 100% of their routes to every end office out there. (and I would guess a very large percentage of their long haul traffic goes to tier 3+ IXCs that you have never even heard of) as is the same with Peerless, Level3, and every other carrier on that level
On 4/22/14 12:40 PM, "naftula" <6279611@gmail.com> wrote:
Flowrout in my opinion is not an enterprise carrier-grade SIP trunk provider, they are a business consumer provider, the same is with vitality, they are a reseller of someone, I am looking for a real Enterprise provider, I have an option between 'Broadvox' and 'peerless network' does anyone have information on them?
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My comments were speaking to the US market... Everyone resells everyone... The entire market is built on arbitage... I¹ve actually worked at a IXC where we were taking traffic from ${major_carrier_A} and sending them out ${major_carrier_B} and someone else was taking the same call from B and sending it back to A... Which caused major loops On 4/22/14 2:23 PM, "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]" <cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
One extra thing, the comments made here are specifically relating to the UK market.
For the US and other countries, YMMV :)
Cal
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] <cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
+1
In the UK you could go direct with BT or Kcom, but this is really only designed for people who are pushing serious amounts of committed and consistent traffic levels.
Rather than looking at your options in terms of "real enterprise providers", look at it in terms of "who are they reselling?".
Avoid resellers of resellers, and find the sweet spot between flexibility and cost that suits your use case.
Cal
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Ken Rice <krice@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Broadvox and Peerless are Resellers of someone else also... Flowroute like every other carrier out there operates their own switching gear, customer service and other departments...
Companies like Broadvox do not own 100% of their routes to every end office out there. (and I would guess a very large percentage of their long haul traffic goes to tier 3+ IXCs that you have never even heard of) as is the same with Peerless, Level3, and every other carrier on that level
On 4/22/14 12:40 PM, "naftula" <6279611@gmail.com> wrote:
Flowrout in my opinion is not an enterprise carrier-grade SIP trunk provider, they are a business consumer provider, the same is with vitality, they are a reseller of someone, I am looking for a real Enterprise provider, I have an option between 'Broadvox' and 'peerless network' does anyone have information on them?
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