Hi, I'd like to know what's needed to add support for G729, I know there's a bounty, but I couldn't make sense out of what's posted on the wiki. I'm really interested in this, as one of my current VoIP providers restricts me to using only this codec, which limits me to using Asterisk, hence I can't fully move to FS without G729 support. What would it take to make it happen? Thanks, -- Nicolás Brenner Medularis SpA
I guess there's no interest in G729 at all... any good alternatives? What do you guys use to save bandwith and keep a decent audio quality? On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com> wrote:
Hi, I'd like to know what's needed to add support for G729, I know there's a bounty, but I couldn't make sense out of what's posted on the wiki. I'm really interested in this, as one of my current VoIP providers restricts me to using only this codec, which limits me to using Asterisk, hence I can't fully move to FS without G729 support. What would it take to make it happen?
Thanks,
-- Nicolás Brenner Medularis SpA
-- Nicolás Brenner Medularis SpA
There is a huge interest in G729... The problem is the ammount of money in just getting the priviledge to pay the royalties... Once that has been resolved G729 will show up rather quickly K
From: Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com> Reply-To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 08:42:50 -0400 To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] g729
I guess there's no interest in G729 at all... any good alternatives? What do you guys use to save bandwith and keep a decent audio quality?
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com> wrote:
Hi, I'd like to know what's needed to add support for G729, I know there's a bounty, but I couldn't make sense out of what's posted on the wiki. I'm really interested in this, as one of my current VoIP providers restricts me to using only this codec, which limits me to using Asterisk, hence I can't fully move to FS without G729 support. What would it take to make it happen?
Thanks,
-- Nicolás Brenner Medularis SpA
-- Nicolás Brenner Medularis SpA
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How much money is it needed to get something going like the USD 10 license from digium? On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Ken Rice <krice@suspicious.org> wrote:
There is a huge interest in G729...
The problem is the ammount of money in just getting the priviledge to pay the royalties... Once that has been resolved G729 will show up rather quickly
K
From: Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com> Reply-To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 08:42:50 -0400 To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] g729
I guess there's no interest in G729 at all... any good alternatives? What do you guys use to save bandwith and keep a decent audio quality?
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com> wrote:
Hi, I'd like to know what's needed to add support for G729, I know there's a bounty, but I couldn't make sense out of what's posted on the wiki. I'm really interested in this, as one of my current VoIP providers restricts me to using only this codec, which limits me to using Asterisk, hence I can't fully move to FS without G729 support. What would it take to make it happen?
Thanks,
-- Nicolás Brenner Medularis SpA
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Hi, I think Trixter can provide a much more detailed analysis on this issue, coz If i correctly remember he has had discussion with Digium on this context in past. Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com Quoting Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com>:
How much money is it needed to get something going like the USD 10 license from digium?
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Ken Rice <krice@suspicious.org> wrote:
There is a huge interest in G729...
The problem is the ammount of money in just getting the priviledge to pa y the royalties... Once that has been resolved G729 will show up rather quickly
K
From: Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com> Reply-To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 08:42:50 -0400 To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] g729
I guess there's no interest in G729 at all... any good alternatives? What do you guys use to save bandwith and keep a decent audio quality?
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com> wrote:
Hi, I'd like to know what's needed to add support for G729, I know there's a bounty, but I couldn't make sense out of what's posted on the wiki. I'm really interested in this, as one of my current VoIP providers restricts me to using only this codec, which limits me to using Asterisk, hence I can't fully move to FS without G729 support. What would it take to make it happen?
Thanks,
-- Nicolás Brenner Medularis SpA
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Actually Digium has nothing to do with this... The whole problem is the Patents held by The G729 Consortium, and 2 other companies... Contract Initialtion Fees, and initial Royalty payments end up making it very cost prohibitive for most people to shoulder (we're talking a nice 5 digit number just to obtain the priviledge to pay the royalties) Can it be done yes, will it happen yes, when is the real question... Critical mass has to hit K
From: Mitul Limbani <mitul@enterux.com> Reply-To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:52:56 -0400 To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] g729
Hi,
I think Trixter can provide a much more detailed analysis on this issue, coz If i correctly remember he has had discussion with Digium on this context in past.
Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com
Quoting Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com>:
How much money is it needed to get something going like the USD 10 license from digium?
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Ken Rice <krice@suspicious.org> wrote:
There is a huge interest in G729...
The problem is the ammount of money in just getting the priviledge to pa y the royalties... Once that has been resolved G729 will show up rather quickly
K
From: Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com> Reply-To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 08:42:50 -0400 To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] g729
I guess there's no interest in G729 at all... any good alternatives? What do you guys use to save bandwith and keep a decent audio quality?
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com> wrote:
Hi, I'd like to know what's needed to add support for G729, I know there's a bounty, but I couldn't make sense out of what's posted on the wiki. I'm really interested in this, as one of my current VoIP providers restricts me to using only this codec, which limits me to using Asterisk, hence I can't fully move to FS without G729 support. What would it take to make it happen?
Thanks,
-- Nicolás Brenner Medularis SpA
-- Nicolás Brenner Medularis SpA
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Is there anyway to use something like the command line encoder from here?: http://asterisk.hosting.lv/ even if for testing purposes only. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Ken Rice <krice@suspicious.org> wrote:
Actually Digium has nothing to do with this... The whole problem is the Patents held by The G729 Consortium, and 2 other companies...
Contract Initialtion Fees, and initial Royalty payments end up making it very cost prohibitive for most people to shoulder (we're talking a nice 5 digit number just to obtain the priviledge to pay the royalties)
Can it be done yes, will it happen yes, when is the real question... Critical mass has to hit
K
From: Mitul Limbani <mitul@enterux.com> Reply-To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:52:56 -0400 To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] g729
Hi,
I think Trixter can provide a much more detailed analysis on this issue, coz If i correctly remember he has had discussion with Digium on this context in past.
Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com
Quoting Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com>:
How much money is it needed to get something going like the USD 10 license from digium?
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Ken Rice <krice@suspicious.org> wrote:
There is a huge interest in G729...
The problem is the ammount of money in just getting the priviledge to pa y the royalties... Once that has been resolved G729 will show up rather quickly
K
From: Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com> Reply-To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 08:42:50 -0400 To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] g729
I guess there's no interest in G729 at all... any good alternatives? What do you guys use to save bandwith and keep a decent audio quality?
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com> wrote:
Hi, I'd like to know what's needed to add support for G729, I know there's a bounty, but I couldn't make sense out of what's posted on the wiki. I'm really interested in this, as one of my current VoIP providers restricts me to using only this codec, which limits me to using Asterisk, hence I can't fully move to FS without G729 support. What would it take to make it happen?
Thanks,
-- Nicolás Brenner Medularis SpA
-- Nicolás Brenner Medularis SpA
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Woof! On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:17:14 -0400, Ken Rice <krice@suspicious.org> wrote:
The whole problem is the Patents held by The G729 Consortium, and 2 other companies...
Has anyone ever gotten a list of the actual patent numbers in question? I've tried on several occasions and have always been balked. The ITU patent site http://www.itu.int/ipr/IPRSearch.aspx?iprtype=PS has never worked for me, always "timing out". It's been this way for at least two years. As the original G.729 spec was approved by the ITU some 13 years ago, I suspect that any of the patents in them has expired, or is very close to expiration. Given a list of the actual patents one should be able to determine the date when G.729 becomes patent un-emcumbered. --Woof!
It expires in 2016 /b On Jun 5, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Andy Spitzer wrote:
Woof!
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:17:14 -0400, Ken Rice <krice@suspicious.org> wrote:
The whole problem is the Patents held by The G729 Consortium, and 2 other companies...
Has anyone ever gotten a list of the actual patent numbers in question? I've tried on several occasions and have always been balked. The ITU patent site http://www.itu.int/ipr/IPRSearch.aspx?iprtype=PS has never worked for me, always "timing out". It's been this way for at least two years.
As the original G.729 spec was approved by the ITU some 13 years ago, I suspect that any of the patents in them has expired, or is very close to expiration. Given a list of the actual patents one should be able to determine the date when G.729 becomes patent un-emcumbered.
--Woof!
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Brian West wrote:
It expires in 2016
That is presumably for the US. Do you know when the rest of us will be free? Also, do you know if some of the later annexes have patents in the pool? If their VAD relies on some patent(s) which came later that could be a real pain.
/b
On Jun 5, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Andy Spitzer wrote:
Woof!
On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:17:14 -0400, Ken Rice <krice@suspicious.org> wrote:
The whole problem is the Patents held by The G729 Consortium, and 2 other companies...
Has anyone ever gotten a list of the actual patent numbers in question? I've tried on several occasions and have always been balked. The ITU patent site http://www.itu.int/ipr/IPRSearch.aspx?iprtype=PS has never worked for me, always "timing out". It's been this way for at least two years.
http://www.itu.int/ipr/IPRSearch.aspx?iprtype=PS works OK for some searches (e.g. G.729 annex B just worked OK), but seems to time out for others (e.g. G.729 just timed out - there's probably just too many entries :-) )
As the original G.729 spec was approved by the ITU some 13 years ago, I suspect that any of the patents in them has expired, or is very close to expiration. Given a list of the actual patents one should be able to determine the date when G.729 becomes patent un-emcumbered.
Regards, Steve
Hello, I am not sure about the software G729 encoder support, but is there something that we can work with OpenZAP + TC400 (G729, G723.1) encoder/decoder card that Digium makes ? Even I had similar issues earlier thats why I m stuck with Asterisk and not able to move completely to FreeSwitch. Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com Quoting Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com>:
I guess there's no interest in G729 at all... any good alternatives? What do you guys use to save bandwith and keep a decent audio quality?
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com> wrote:
Hi, I'd like to know what's needed to add support for G729, I know there's a bounty, but I couldn't make sense out of what's posted on the wiki. I'm really interested in this, as one of my current VoIP providers restricts me to using only this codec, which limits me to using Asterisk, hence I can't fully move to FS without G729 support. What would it take to make it happen?
Thanks,
-- Nicolás Brenner Medularis SpA
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I could certainly support that card in FreeSWITCH but I would expect to raise a bounty of 10k first to develop the module. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Mitul Limbani <mitul@enterux.com> wrote:
Hello,
I am not sure about the software G729 encoder support, but is there something that we can work with OpenZAP + TC400 (G729, G723.1) encoder/decoder card that Digium makes ?
Even I had similar issues earlier thats why I m stuck with Asterisk and not able to move completely to FreeSwitch.
Thanks & Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions, The Enterprise Linux Company (TM), www.enterux.com
Quoting Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com>:
I guess there's no interest in G729 at all... any good alternatives? What do you guys use to save bandwith and keep a decent audio quality?
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com> wrote:
Hi, I'd like to know what's needed to add support for G729, I know there's a bounty, but I couldn't make sense out of what's posted on the wiki. I'm really interested in this, as one of my current VoIP providers restricts me to using only this codec, which limits me to using Asterisk, hence I can't fully move to FS without G729 support. What would it take to make it happen?
Thanks,
-- Nicolás Brenner Medularis SpA
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Andy Spitzer
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Anthony Minessale
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Brian West
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Ken Rice
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Mitul Limbani
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Nicolas Brenner
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Steve Underwood