Hmmm, keep it easy, don’t randomize, but force a change from 1234…… How about this (sound like it should be easy): If the default password of 1234 is used in ANY user registration, print a RED message and ONLY ALLOW 3 extensions to work. This way, anyone using FS in a production environment is forced to change the password but initial setup for demo is very easy with 1234 OK to use but only 3 extensions can register if any one of them uses 1234. Mario
On Mar 14, 2017, at 2:10 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Anything that changes, makes it more difficult to toy with out of the box will throw road blocks on potential new users, I'd like to focus more on education of the end users on how to properly secure FreeSWITCH and the available security concepts that you can use in various situations.
/b
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 5:07 PM, acheraime . <acheraime@gmail.com <mailto:acheraime@gmail.com>> wrote: I meant to say in production. A demo is a demo.
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org <mailto:brian@freeswitch.org>> wrote: Giovanni is correct, anything that raises the barrier of entry will only hinder us as a project, We can't solve the PEBKAC, Humans ultimately are the weak link in the security chain.
/b
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@gmail.com <mailto:gmaruzz@gmail.com>> wrote: btw the problem is always with users/customers that change the demo password "1234" (where there is a delay of 10 seconds put there by this purpose) to something like "password".
And what I can do about this?
I will put a safeguard against silly passwords, and you will make the effort to circumvent also that safeguard because "is easier for my users"?
On 14 March 2017 at 21:56, Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@gmail.com <mailto:gmaruzz@gmail.com>> wrote: NO, the default password of the demo configuration is just that, a DEFAULT password of a DEMO configuration.
That is meant to DEMO just OUT OF THE BOX
So, it must stay this way, because it just works, and is a demo
Then, if you put a demo in production, the problem is between the monitor and the seat, not in the software
On 14 March 2017 at 21:46, David Villasmil <david.villasmil.work@gmail.com <mailto:david.villasmil.work@gmail.com>> wrote: Make the default password very obscure ramdomized on the fly... that way people will be crying because they can't figure out a password instead of having noobies hacked :)
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 9:40 PM Mirko Brankovic <mirkobrankovic@gmail.com <mailto:mirkobrankovic@gmail.com>> wrote: Indeed ;)
On Mar 14, 2017 20:38, "Antonio Silva" <asilva@wirelessmundi.com <mailto:asilva@wirelessmundi.com>> wrote: almost... until the user to test set userid = password ... and forget to change it... ops... hacked...
it's all about good practices.
Regards, António
On 03/14/2017 07:39 PM, Mirko Brankovic wrote:
Cance default password to uuid(), so every new install will get random one ... Bulletproof :°D
On Mar 14, 2017 19:30, "Brian West" <brian@freeswitch.org <mailto:brian@freeswitch.org>> wrote: This is exactly what prompted me to put the FOUR LINE CRIT statement when the default password isn't changed along with a 10 second delay before proceeding. Still I see questions posted about the 10 second delay and asking what it means. Not sure how to make it more clear.
/b
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@gmail.com <mailto:gmaruzz@gmail.com>> wrote: Is nice because they mention FreeSWITCH in the tag of the link, but the link is about FreePBX.
Anyway, it's true: if you do not use the standard security practice, and leave your FreeSWITCH with standard password "1234", or maybe you change the standard password to "password", you probably will be hacked, and phone calls will be originated from your FreeSWITCH that you do not want to originate.
But, man, that's what you, and me, and anyone is expecting.
Also, please do not drive wrong way in the autobahn :))
-giovanni
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