Re: [Freeswitch-users] Questions on Building an application for FreeSWITCH

25 May 2010

      Actually - before you get "to smart" - may I suggest that you start writing
- or improving - the getting started sections of the doc. Address the areas
where you struggle and let others benefit from your work. 

I have been through similar issues myself - FS is one of the easier projects
to work with once you get under the hood, but you basically need to evolve
to the level where you read the source code.

Jan

-----Original Message-----
From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org
[mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Phone
Sent: 25. mai 2010 17:41
To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Questions on Building an application for
FreeSWITCH

As I mentioned...I am a bit confused now...I guess your reply confirms 
that...sorry...I have been scouring the web to learn what route to 
take...I guess I should stay closer to the source.   I don't mean to ask 
stupid questions...I am just trying to build an app with this great tool 
FreeSWITCH...and it is new to me.

My understanding is that I will need to use a threaded app. I am checkng 
a DB for pending calls, placing multiple calls 
simultaneously....watching for them to be answered and then take action 
based upon dtmf or other response.  Am I correct that I will use 
threading and events for this?

Sounds like perl for a threaded app is not a good idea. I have not 
really got very far threading in perl. I was just wondering if it was a 
viable solution to build from the perl client example by expanding the 
event loop there or if I was way off and should be going a different 
direction.  What do you suggest?

Thanks again for your help...I will ask smarter questions when I get going.

Anthony Minessale wrote:
...
Where did you read all of that because it's out of date.
All of the above is deprecated in favor of ESL and the perl module for 
ESL.
That should have been much easier to find than the stuff you are 
referencing since ESL was even mentioned
in this very thread.
What threading issues are you having in perl?  Are you actually 
going to use perl for a threaded app?
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Phone <phone.bytes@gmail.com 
<mailto:phone.bytes@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sorry to revive this already long thread...but I think the history is
    relevant as I am still stuck on the approach.
I came across the perl POE "POE::Filter::FSSocket" and thought I might
    learn and use it.  Thought it might be nice to help with the
    socket/threading issues...and avoid having to get down and dirty with
    them.  However, in looking closer it appeared that nothing had really
    happened on it for about 4 years...then I read a post  indicating that
    it was out of date and that Anthony's FreeSWITCH::CLient would be a
    better choice.  I have been able to try out the perl FreeSWITCH Client
    example on the wiki and  send out some calls using "bgapi"...but I am
    not sure how to handle the multiple threads.  Would I just deal
    with all
    events in a loop similar to what is in the wiki client example?
Now I am really confused as to how to tackle this.  Not an expert with
    any particular language...but it seems that scripting may be nice
    from a
    maintenance point of view??
Any further thoughts or examples to get me on my way?  I am really
    open
    as to the approach to take.
Thanks
So now I don't know what direction to go to get this started.
    Jan Berger wrote:
    > You don't need to pull a db these day's, you can use triggers to
    signal your
    > application - a bit depending on what db you use and what
    scripting they
    > offer beyond SQL.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org
    <mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org>
    > [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org
    <mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org>] On Behalf
    Of Phone
    > Sent: 13. mai 2010 01:46
    > To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
    <mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org>
    > Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Questions on Building an
    application for
    > FreeSWITCH
    >
    > Thanks for sharing your experience.
    >
    > We would like to get over to linux with this.
    >
    > I am still trying to get my head around how this generally works.  I
    > guess we would write a client to sit and run on the linux box
    where it
    > could periodically check the DB and then talk sockets to FS to
    make the
    > calls?
    >
    > Can you point me to examples of talking sockets?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
    >
    >> Glad to hear.
    >>
    >> I still say to build the app and logic completely separately
    and connect
    >>
    > it
    >
    >> to FreeSWITCH over the socket using ESL.
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Kristian Kielhofner
    >> http://blog.krisk.org
    >>
    >> ----- Original Message -----
    >> From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org
    <mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org>
    >> <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org
    <mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org>>
    >> To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
    <mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org>
    >> <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
    <mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org>>
    >> Sent: Wed May 12 18:28:13 2010
    >> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Questions on Building an
    application
    >> forFreeSWITCHThis is legit.  We are not into harassing anyone.
     There
    >> are too many
    >> people doing that already.
    >>
    >> We currently have this working on a Windows/Dialogic platform,
    but would
    >> like to get it over to FreeSWITCH for a number of reasons.  It
    is always
    >> nice to avoid spending alot of time developing using a method
    that you
    >> later find has serious issues or limitations and then having to
    change
    >> horses and start over.  I just thought I would tap on someone
    else's
    >> wisdom in regards to a good way to talk to FS that works well.
     I did
    >> notice that the wiki talks like LUA is the preferred way to go.
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Michael Collins wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>> On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Kristian Kielhofner
    >>> <kris@kriskinc.com <mailto:kris@kriskinc.com>
    <mailto:kris@kriskinc.com <mailto:kris@kriskinc.com>>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>     Are you going to be calling my cell phone to ask if I owe
    $10,000
    >>>     or more to
    >>>     the IRS?
    >>>
    >>>     Seriously, the world does not need another robodialer to
    harass
    >>>     people...
    >>>
    >>> Agreed, however there are legitimate use cases for this, like a
    >>> retailer calling to say an order is in, or reminder calls sent
    out by
    >>> a doctor's office. But yes, if it's dialing for dollars then
    I'm with
    >>> you: Por favor! No mas!
    >>> -MC
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>     With that being said, write your app in whatever you want
    using
    >>>     ESL and
    >>>     connect to the socket to originate calls and listen for
    events.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>     --
    >>>     Kristian Kielhofner
    >>>     http://blog.krisk.org
    >>>
    >>>     ----- Original Message -----
    >>>     From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org
    <mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org>
    >>>     <mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org
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    >>>     <mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org
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    >>>     To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
    <mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org>
    >>>     <mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
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    >>>     <mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
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    >>>     Sent: Wed May 12 15:40:58 2010
    >>>     Subject: [Freeswitch-users] Questions on Building an
    application
    >>>     forFreeSWITCHI am looking for a boot in the right
    direction on the
    >>>     following project.
    >>>
    >>>     I am looking to build an "application" with FS where it will
    >>>     frequently
    >>>     check a database and then make an outbound call when a
    record with
    >>>     certain conditions is found in the DB.  It needs to
    determine if the
    >>>     call was then answered by a machine/vm, busy, or answered by a
    >>>
    > person,
    >
    >>>     play a message and get a response back to be recorded in
    the db.
    >>>      It may
    >>>     find many calls that need to be made at the same time.  It
    will be
    >>>     running on a PRI.
    >>>
    >>>     I am confused as to what approach to use to accomplish this.
    >>>
    >>>     Lua Script, Perl Script, Javascript, Phython, PHP,
    Ruby....etc.
    >>>     Liverpie, ESL....etc.
    >>>     Or a totally different approach.
    >>>
    >>>     I realize that there is not only one "correct" way to
    build this,
    >>>     but I
    >>>     am looking for advise from those who have done this type
    of thing
    >>>     before.  I value the opinion of those who have gone down
    this road
    >>>
    > and
    >
    >>>     would be willing to share their thoughts on a recommended
    path to
    >>>
    > take
    >
    >>>     to accomplish this.
    >>>
    >>>     Thanks
    >>>
    >>>
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