On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:22 PM, xmlya <telecomsphere@163.com> wrote:
Anthony, Glad to have you join the discussion. Seems you are one of the developers of Freeswitch and thanks for your answer. It will help us to learn Freeswitch more and clarify what we don't know and misunderstand.
Yes, I am the primary author of FreeSWITCH as a matter of fact.
I am not a user of freeswith now. I only keep an eye on it and join the mailing list to get what experts say about Freeswitch and get latest update. I think I will experience Freeswitch once a stable release can be seen. Now let's get down to the our discussions. Q1: Registar Your answer: Freeswitch can act as stand-alone registar, even without openser, etc. OK, that's great.
Q2: Thread-safe Why I post here is that, I noticed that there was no mutex proection over sofia sip transaction hash table. SIP thread run its own event loop(if there is something wrong, please correct me). I still don't know how many threads(only sip signaling threads) Freeswith sip endpoint can launch, from technique aspect. The answer is more like a function description, can you explain in detail how these threads work? Or give me a link I can learn myself. * "To teach you something, there is no such thing as "thread safe". All code needs to be able to exist in a threaded environment to have any useful purpose. This does not mean trying to use mutexes and threads on your behalf. It means to design your api so that whatever code is using it can implement it in a threaded environment." *Are you talking about lock/mutex free programming? but the fact is Freeswith is using sofia as the sip channel, so Freeswitch design must base on sofia, what's the wrapper you've done, I am keen to hear the detail... Thanks a lot!
No, I'm just saying that all code should be "thread safe" that's all. Our SIP module is defiantly thread safe I can assure you. We have people doing 450 calls per second nonstop. FreeSWITCH is a heavily threaded application and is tested quite thoroughly to work with thousands of threads at the same time.
Respectfully the much work you refer to that we have to do is mostly to seek out and correct the page where you gentlemen were both misinformed about FreeSWITCH.
FreeSWITCH supports not only inbound and outbound registration but enterprise scaled simultaneous instances of a complete SIP UA where each instance can be in charge of it's own registration entities.
Inbound registrations support multiple simultaneous registrations to the same account and full subscription presence with SLA and BLF on several popular SIP phones.
Sofia is quite threaded and our sofia endpoint can easily sustain hundreds of calls per second with each call in it's own thread.
To teach you something, there is no such thing as "thread safe". All code needs to be able to exist in a threaded environment to have any useful purpose. This does not mean trying to use mutexes and threads on your behalf. It means to design your api so that whatever code is using it can implement it in a threaded environment.
Our SIP module also does SRTP TLS SIP and wide and narrow band audio.
Below is our spec sheet that is listed twice on our homepage in the top 10% of the page. http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Specsheet
Can you please show me where you got the information that we do not support registrations so I may correct it because clearly that document is in excess of 2 years old since we have supported registration since at least 2006 (about 8 months into the projects start from scratch)
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:12 AM, xmlya <telecomsphere@163.com> wrote:
Brian, I think I can understand Pete Kay. His concern is whether Freeswitch can have registration function in one day, or the development activity for this feature has been scheduled. By the way, as said in the website documents, Freeswitch is a multi-threaded softswitch and has different endpoints for each protocols, SIP, H.323, etc. My question is, does each endpoint use multiple threads, say SIP endpoint? It seems that sofia is not thread-safe, how did Freeeswitch use this library? If it is used in multi-thread environment, there is much work to do. Don't have time to look into the code yet. And see your back and forth email. Thanks for your reply!
Regards, xmlya
This really isn't for us to decide. OpenSER is built for that so you have to make the choice on what tool to use for your needs.
On Apr 18, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Pete Kay wrote:
I have a question for the creators of freeswitch. With freeswitch, people are still going to need Openser to do sip registering and it is understandable that a pure sip register is more efficient. The problem with Openser is that it is not that easy to config as compared to freeswitch. So, I am wondering does it make sense for use part of the current freeswitch function to just make a "freeser" ( for pure sip registration) so that users can enjoy an efficient sip server and the ease-of-use from the freeswitch design?
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