[Freeswitch-users] Commit message usefullness

[I put the Who? in Mishehu]

Florian,

Speaking as a long time FreeSWITCH community member and a contributor to 
multiple other projects over the years as well, you have to remember 
three things:

1.  Each project has its own mode of operations (modus operandi). This 
includes how commits are commented to the revision control system.
2.  No, they are not about to change how they do things for you.
3.  No, they might not even entertain hearing your 
requests/suggestions/complaints.

We are glad that you find FreeSWITCH to be a very useful and viable 
product, and hope you continue to find it useful.  You are more than 
welcome to join us on our weekly developer's conference calls 
(Wednesdays at 12:00 GMT-6 / US Central).  You can also join us up on 
irc.freenode.net on channel #freeswitch .  Perhaps these would be more 
effective for you to maintain an ongoing connection to the project and 
more easily track changes in the code.

Yossi Neiman

On 09/15/2013 11:45 AM, Florian Lohoff wrote:

> Hola,
>
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 04:13:52PM -0500, Anthony Minessale wrote:
>> Maybe if you didn't phrase it like a complaint it would be more meaningful
>> but it reads as though you are mad that you had to do work to debug your
>> issue in our software for your paying customer.  I find the message
>> offensive and had to resist less polite responses that came to mind.
> Commit messages containing bug ids are nice to track which commit closes
> a bug - but are not helpful in finding changed behaviour.
>
> And looking at every individual diff or every individual ticket is
> impossible without deep understanding of the full inner workings. So it
> might be possible for you - its impossible for the rest of us. Thats the
> point i am trying to make - For ME the changelog entrys are useless and
> i made a point why.
>
> I dont care if you as the developers change - discuss - or think about
> it. We are not using freeswitch - we are just technicians trying to
> solve problems around us.
>
> The development style of freeswitch makes it hard to follow changes and
> debug behaviour.
>
> In our internal git trees we have a bug id/ticket number + short
> explanation in the shortlog and sometimes full email conversations in
> commit messages for reference purposes. So when we change ticket systems
> we dont devaluate our commit logs.
>
> Flo
> PS: It wasnt a paying customer - just a helpless one with error logs
> contain 500 responses to SIP re REGISTERs of his CPEs we as an ISP
> connect to the network - so before ranting its not our business i was
> trying to answer with helpful content.
>
>
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