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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Florian,<br>
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Speaking as a long time FreeSWITCH community member and a
contributor to multiple other projects over the years as well, you
have to remember three things:<br>
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1. Each project has its own mode of operations (modus operandi).
This includes how commits are commented to the revision control
system.<br>
2. No, they are not about to change how they do things for you.<br>
3. No, they might not even entertain hearing your
requests/suggestions/complaints.<br>
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We are glad that you find FreeSWITCH to be a very useful and
viable product, and hope you continue to find it useful. You are
more than welcome to join us on our weekly developer's conference
calls (Wednesdays at 12:00 GMT-6 / US Central). You can also join
us up on irc.freenode.net on channel #freeswitch . Perhaps these
would be more effective for you to maintain an ongoing connection
to the project and more easily track changes in the code.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Yossi Neiman
On 09/15/2013 11:45 AM, Florian Lohoff wrote:
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Hola,
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 04:13:52PM -0500, Anthony Minessale wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Maybe if you didn't phrase it like a complaint it would be more meaningful
but it reads as though you are mad that you had to do work to debug your
issue in our software for your paying customer. I find the message
offensive and had to resist less polite responses that came to mind.
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Commit messages containing bug ids are nice to track which commit closes
a bug - but are not helpful in finding changed behaviour.
And looking at every individual diff or every individual ticket is
impossible without deep understanding of the full inner workings. So it
might be possible for you - its impossible for the rest of us. Thats the
point i am trying to make - For ME the changelog entrys are useless and
i made a point why.
I dont care if you as the developers change - discuss - or think about
it. We are not using freeswitch - we are just technicians trying to
solve problems around us.
The development style of freeswitch makes it hard to follow changes and
debug behaviour.
In our internal git trees we have a bug id/ticket number + short
explanation in the shortlog and sometimes full email conversations in
commit messages for reference purposes. So when we change ticket systems
we dont devaluate our commit logs.
Flo
PS: It wasnt a paying customer - just a helpless one with error logs
contain 500 responses to SIP re REGISTERs of his CPEs we as an ISP
connect to the network - so before ranting its not our business i was
trying to answer with helpful content.
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