[Freeswitch-users] UK SIP Trunk providers

Tue Oct 29 15:34:52 MSK 2013

I would advise against AQL for wholesale services, they are just another
reseller aggregate but with *significantly* higher rates (26p/min to UK
orange, what?!)

Their technical sales team are also difficult to work with, the majority of
people I spoke to there clearly did not understand the product they were
selling.

Avoid.

Cal

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Ben Langfeld <ben at langfeld.co.uk> wrote:

> Just curious where you guys see AQL fitting in that categorisation? I've
> used them in the past and they seem good. I also thought they were one of
> the bigger providers in the UK, but since no-one has mentioned them...
>
>
> On 29 October 2013 07:39, Andrew Cassidy <andrew at cassidywebservices.co.uk>wrote:
>
>> I think the point to be made here is that your choice should be
>> determined by your requirements and budget. As we know neither of those, we
>> can't give you specific recommendations.
>>
>> The majority of people I encounter use 'consumer' grade services, with or
>> without their own equipment as necessary. That said these are largely small
>> businesses.
>>
>> In all seriousness there's always a best tool for the job and no one
>> service that'll meet all needs.
>>
>>
>> On 29 October 2013 08:42, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] <
>> cal.leeming at simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Let's be clear on definitions here;
>>>
>>> BT, Kingston - Top of the food chain, only financially viable for those
>>> with lots of cash and traffic
>>> Magrathea, Simwood, Gamma  - Designed for wholesale, scalable to many
>>> millions of minutes per month.
>>> SipGate, SureVoip, Gradwell, GBC - These providers are designed for
>>> consumers, only necessary if you are not running your own equipment
>>> NumberGroup, Sol4 - they are essentially a reseller aggregate, or to be
>>> more blunt, an unnecessary middleman
>>>
>>> If someone is running their own switch, why would you want to go with a
>>> consumer grade service which not only limits your CLI capabilities, but
>>> also increases complexity, affects latency and inflates call rates.
>>> Likewise, why would you go through a middleman when you could just go
>>> direct to the supplier with no minimum spend on outbound traffic? Though
>>> typically inbound does require a small min spend of around £50/month (which
>>> is tiny in comparison with VoxBone who charge a min spend of around
>>> £600/month [needs clarification]), which is really the only valid reason
>>> (that I can think of right now) to go with any of these reseller aggregates.
>>>
>>> Cal
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Andrew Cassidy <
>>> andrew at cassidywebservices.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Magrathea are pretty much the industry standard for volume.
>>>>
>>>> Depending on your requirements, there are many others such as SipGate
>>>> and Gradwell. There are also people from at least 3 UK trunk providers in
>>>> this list, including SureVoip, NumberGroup and PowerTel.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29 October 2013 00:29, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] <
>>>> cal.leeming at simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Richard,
>>>>>
>>>>> This topic was discussed a few months back, you can read the thread
>>>>> here;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/xdjhmpkzd7txndji#query:+page:1+mid:ncuirf776l5hjovc+state:results
>>>>>
>>>>> http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/DID-providers-any-thoughts-jan-2013-tt7586851.html#none
>>>>>
>>>>> Since my last post, our chosen UK providers are Magrathea and Simwood.
>>>>>
>>>>> This inter-op was over a period of 6 months but based on low traffic
>>>>> (<=500 calls a month), so others with higher throughput may wish to
>>>>> chime in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Magrathea - Over a period of one month, I've not had a single
>>>>> problematic call, routing/quality is always good, and they seem to
>>>>> have almost every dialing code possible for DIDs. I have not dealt
>>>>> with their technical staff yet, but their sales people were friendly
>>>>> and knowledgeable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Simwood - Over a period of two months, I had 2 call routing issues to
>>>>> international destinations and they are missing at least one number
>>>>> range (Bournemouth). However it's worth noting that Simwood were very
>>>>> quick to help, they identified the routing problem within 5 minutes of
>>>>> me reporting it, and despite being a low profit customer they treated
>>>>> us as a high priority. I've also spoken to numerous staff there, they
>>>>> always come across as friendly and, more importantly, competent. I
>>>>> would have no problem recommending Simwood to others.
>>>>>
>>>>> For international routing - I'm still in the process of reviewing
>>>>> TelServ and Flowroute, I'd like to use Voxbone but their min spend is
>>>>> too high for us.
>>>>>
>>>>> I cannot choose between Sim/Mag, they are both extremely good
>>>>> companies - use both (redundancy is a good thing anyway!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cal
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Richard Mace <richard.mace at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>> > Can anyone recommend any SIP trunk providers, ideally based in the
>>>>> UK?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Richard
>>>>> >
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