[Freeswitch-users] Determine if a number is valid/working
Daniel Ivanov
sertys at gmail.com
Thu Feb 21 14:34:23 MSK 2013
The passive approach is always better to marketing people. They are
generally afraid of torturing a possible cuatomer too much. The data
comparison is an amazing guess given the data you have. I wouldn't do any
lookups if there's a mismatch, but jump to phone verification right away.
On Feb 21, 2013 7:31 AM, "Sean Devoy" <sdevoy at bizfocused.com> wrote:
> Hey MC. I like Steven’s response as well. Can’t quite do the connect to
> sales agent yet in the process, need to pull credit report and load DBMS
> values.****
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> The cost number is cost of lead from providers like google, msn, etc. It
> is a VERY competitive market. That does not count the cost of sales reps
> dialing non-working numbers on about 1/3 of the leads.****
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> I suspect we will offer a tiered approach like:****
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> **1. **Area Code, “State” Field and IP Geo Data State Field all match –
> accept it.****
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> **2. **Else try LNP Lookup for match****
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> **3. **Else still fishy – Web Popup to explain and then Robo Dial and
> require a “pin” to be entered.****
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> *From:* freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:
> freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Collins
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:26 PM
> *To:* FreeSWITCH Users Help
> *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] Determine if a number is valid/working**
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> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Sean Devoy <sdevoy at bizfocused.com> wrote:
> ****
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> Thank you for your responses, everyone.****
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> MC: This customer has rejected the idea of calling with a message as bad
> marketing!! In my experience marketing people have their own “logic rules”
> and I can never follow their thinking. And yes, they have 30 customer
> sales reps calling these “leads” all day long. They claim 1/3 of the leads
> have invalid phone numbers. My customer suspects fraud and that someone is
> submitting false leads to boost their lead rate and fees.****
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> I agree with Steven's assessment (elsewhere in this thread).
> ****
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> Ken: I am not sure we have any language in common – lol. Where can I
> learn what “ASR and ACD” are? I looked up lidb and lnp already!****
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> ****
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> Also, the cost of a call compared to the cost of a fraudulent lead (over
> $20) is insignificant. ****
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> How is that cost calculated and to whom does the money go? Maybe the
> "verification call" needs to take place at the time that the form is filled
> out.
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> The ideas I have suggested to my customer, for what it is worth, are
> comparing the State (we are in US) for the IP address of the submitter, to
> the State on the form and the State of the area code on the form. In the
> situations where they do not agree, prompt the user for permission to robo
> call for verification.****
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