<p>The passive approach is always better to marketing people. They are generally afraid of torturing a possible cuatomer too much. The data comparison is an amazing guess given the data you have. I wouldn't do any lookups if there's a mismatch, but jump to phone verification right away.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 21, 2013 7:31 AM, "Sean Devoy" <<a href="mailto:sdevoy@bizfocused.com">sdevoy@bizfocused.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hey MC. I like Steven’s response as well. Can’t quite do the connect to sales agent yet in the process, need to pull credit report and load DBMS values.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The cost number is cost of lead from providers like google, msn, etc. It is a VERY competitive market. That does not count the cost of sales reps dialing non-working numbers on about 1/3 of the leads.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I suspect we will offer a tiered approach like:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Area Code, “State” Field and IP Geo Data State Field all match – accept it.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Else try LNP Lookup for match<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span>3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Else still fishy – Web Popup to explain and then Robo Dial and require a “pin” to be entered.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Collins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> FreeSWITCH Users Help<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeswitch-users] Determine if a number is valid/working<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Sean Devoy <<a href="mailto:sdevoy@bizfocused.com" target="_blank">sdevoy@bizfocused.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thank you for your responses, everyone.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">MC: This customer has rejected the idea of calling with a message as bad marketing!! In my experience marketing people have their own “logic rules” and I can never follow their thinking. And yes, they have 30 customer sales reps calling these “leads” all day long. They claim 1/3 of the leads have invalid phone numbers. My customer suspects fraud and that someone is submitting false leads to boost their lead rate and fees.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Steven's assessment (elsewhere in this thread).<br> <u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ken: I am not sure we have any language in common – lol. Where can I learn what “ASR and ACD” are? I looked up lidb and lnp already!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Also, the cost of a call compared to the cost of a fraudulent lead (over $20) is insignificant. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal">How is that cost calculated and to whom does the money go? Maybe the "verification call" needs to take place at the time that the form is filled out.<br> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The ideas I have suggested to my customer, for what it is worth, are comparing the State (we are in US) for the IP address of the submitter, to the State on the form and the State of the area code on the form. In the situations where they do not agree, prompt the user for permission to robo call for verification.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">
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