[Freeswitch-users] Which FS version to use?
Stanislav Sinyagin
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Thu Jul 19 22:23:48 MSD 2012
Ken,
a clean branching strategy and committing policy should actually reduce the number of faults and reduce the maintenance effort.
looking at the current commit log, you can easily see that about 20% of commits are actually introducing new features or changing old ones. So at least we should stop calling it a release candidate.
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>In other words, we need people testing and reporting bugs on JIRA and
>providing feedback on the fixes.
>
>We could always "assume" that the issue has been fixed from people who
>never leave feedback on the fixes anyways.
>
>On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Ken Rice <krice at freeswitch.org> wrote:
>> A little history here... We used to do releases... See 1.0... And the 1.0.x
>> releases
>>
>> Why did we stop?
>>
>> Because no one would test (as developers we can only test so far... Users
>> fine new and exciting ways to break software all the time...
>>
>> There is probably 5 times the number of what I would call edge use cases
>> then there are what I would consider normal use cases... We cant possibly
>> test every possible permutation... So there ended up frustrations and pains
>> cause people were using old revs then complaing about bugs that were fixed 2
>> months back or we had just released 1.0.2 and within 3 hours of the release
>> a mjor bug pops up...
>>
>> We are moving back to a release cycle with 1.2... No amount of testing
>> software that we have to run can address all the automatted testing... We
>> have to have users testing and reporting bugs and when we fix bugs we need
>> those fixes tested and reported back good/bad...
>>
>> Now more recently I came on board with the dev team to help facilitate
>> that... So guys help us help you... Test and report the bugs... Test head...
>> And report bugs... If you have a possible solution to a bug let us know...
>> We want 1.2 to get here and theres been a lot of changes since a previous
>> release....
>>
>> K
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/19/12 9:02 AM, "Brian Foster" <bdfoster at endigotech.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think the point of releasing 1.2 is exactly because of the reasons you are
>> stating.
>>
>> FreeSWITCH gets many commits a day, and is continually improved feature-wise
>> and stability wise. That presents precisely the problems you are pointing
>> out. It's like art. Artwork is never really finished, you just have to make
>> a decision to stop.
>>
>> +1 for a stable branch of FreeSWITCH. But keep those juices flowing!
>>
>> Brian Foster
>> Endigo Computer LLC
>>
>> Sent from a mobile device.
>>
>> On Jul 19, 2012 9:47 AM, "Ben Langfeld" <ben at langfeld.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> git-flow is a very nice branching strategy (master branch for releases,
>> develop branch for active development, feature branches for work in
>> progress). Unfortunately, more or less all freeswitch development happens on
>> a single branch thanks to svn-think.
>>
>> Additionally, the "the latest release is HEAD" strategy is a huge problem
>> for those people writing software which depends on freeswitch. FreeSWITCH
>> does not follow any defined versioning pattern, and thus determining wether
>> updates will break a system is next to impossible. Thus, many people run
>> out-of-date freeswitch systems out of fear.
>>
>> If the FS team were to adopt semver (http://semver.org) then this issue
>> would be all but resolved, but they appear to be dead set against version
>> numbers which actually have meaning. Unfortunately the core team don't seem
>> to realise how much of a problem this is for downstream developers, and seem
>> unwilling to do anything to help in that regard. A sad state of affairs, and
>> my only real criticism of FreeSWITCH.
>>
>> I hope 1.2 represents the beginning of a sensible and mature approach to
>> versioning for FreeSWITCH, and it can't be released soon enough for that
>> very reason.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ben Langfeld
>>
>>
>> On 19 July 2012 15:37, Stanislav Sinyagin <ssinyagin at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> by the way, any plans to fork a "stable" Git branch and use it only for
>> bugfixes, whereas "master" would absorb also all new features?
>>
>> What I see now in the commit log, is the "master" branch also used for
>> normal development, and not only for bugfixes. This way it's difficult to
>> expect the final 1.2 release any time soon.
>>
>>
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Peter Olsson <peter.olsson at visionutveckling.se>
>> To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Which FS version to use?
>>
>>
>>
>> Current git head is always the recommended version. If you find any
>> problems, please report them to Jira. Git head is currently at 1.2 RC2 state
>> (waiting for a stable 1.2 release), so the more things we get fixed, the
>> better!
>>
>> Please retry the ENUM problems on latest git again, and if it still fails,
>> report this to Jira.
>>
>> /Peter
>>
>> 19 jul 2012 kl. 12:51 skrev "Miha" <miha at softnet.si>:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> on my production server I have version:
>>>
>>> freeswitch at default> version
>>> FreeSWITCH Version 1.0.head (git-00de8e6 2011-11-01 17-27-13 -0600)
>>>
>>> which is in my case very stable, I can say perfect.
>>>
>>> As I have prepare other, more powerfull server for FS I have installed
>>> FS from latest git. With version 1.2 rc1 I was having problems with load
>>> and all users did not regisered (loosing connection). I do no know if
>>> this was FS problem but I do not have this problems on production
>>> server. Few day ago I did a new git pull. Now I have version 1.2 rc2
>>> which enum do not work. I traced with wireshark but afer I put in fs_cli
>>> enum 123123123, Fs sends nothing.
>>>
>>>
>>> So on git.freeswitch.com <http://git.freeswitch.com> are versions 1.0.6,
>>> 1.2 rc2 and 1.2 rc1. Which
>>> version to use? Is 1.0.6 most stable for now as 1.2 is rc?
>>>
>>> Where can I find version of FS which I am running on production server?
>>>
>>> Thanks for all your help!
>>>
>>> miha
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