<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Ken,</span></div><div><br><span></span></div>a clean branching strategy and committing policy should actually reduce the number of faults and reduce the maintenance effort.<br><br>looking at the current commit log, you can easily see that about 20% of commits are actually introducing new features or changing old ones. So at least we should stop calling it a release candidate.<br><br><br><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">  <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1">  <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> curriegrad2004 &lt;curriegrad2004@gmail.com&gt;<br>
 <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> FreeSWITCH Users Help &lt;freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org&gt; <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 19, 2012 7:23 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Freeswitch-users] Which FS version to use?<br> </font> </div> <br>In other words, we need people testing and reporting bugs on JIRA and<br>providing feedback on the fixes.<br><br>We could always "assume" that the issue has been fixed from people who<br>never leave feedback on the fixes anyways.<br><br>On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Ken Rice &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:krice@freeswitch.org" href="mailto:krice@freeswitch.org">krice@freeswitch.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; A little history here... We used to do releases... See 1.0... And the 1.0.x<br>&gt; releases<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Why did we stop?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Because no one would test (as developers we can only test so far... Users<br>&gt;
 fine new and exciting ways to break software all the time...<br>&gt;<br>&gt; There is probably 5 times the number of what I would call edge use cases<br>&gt; then there are what I would consider normal use cases... We cant possibly<br>&gt; test every possible permutation... So there ended up frustrations and pains<br>&gt; cause people were using old revs then complaing about bugs that were fixed 2<br>&gt; months back or we had just released 1.0.2 and within 3 hours of the release<br>&gt; a mjor bug pops up...<br>&gt;<br>&gt; We are moving back to a release cycle with 1.2... No amount of testing<br>&gt; software that we have to run can address all the automatted testing... We<br>&gt; have to have users testing and reporting bugs and when we fix bugs we need<br>&gt; those fixes tested and reported back good/bad...<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Now more recently I came on board with the dev team to help facilitate<br>&gt; that... So guys help us help you... Test and
 report the bugs... Test head...<br>&gt; And report bugs... If you have a possible solution to a bug let us know...<br>&gt; We want 1.2 to get here and theres been a lot of changes since a previous<br>&gt; release....<br>&gt;<br>&gt; K<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On 7/19/12 9:02 AM, "Brian Foster" &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:bdfoster@endigotech.com" href="mailto:bdfoster@endigotech.com">bdfoster@endigotech.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I think the point of releasing 1.2 is exactly because of the reasons you are<br>&gt; stating.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; FreeSWITCH gets many commits a day, and is continually improved feature-wise<br>&gt; and stability wise. That presents precisely the problems you are pointing<br>&gt; out. It's like art. Artwork is never really finished, you just have to make<br>&gt; a decision to stop.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; +1 for a stable branch of FreeSWITCH. But keep those juices flowing!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Brian Foster<br>&gt; Endigo Computer
 LLC<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Sent from a mobile device.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On Jul 19, 2012 9:47 AM, "Ben Langfeld" &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:ben@langfeld.co.uk" href="mailto:ben@langfeld.co.uk">ben@langfeld.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; git-flow is a very nice branching strategy (master branch for releases,<br>&gt; develop branch for active development, feature branches for work in<br>&gt; progress). Unfortunately, more or less all freeswitch development happens on<br>&gt; a single branch thanks to svn-think.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Additionally, the "the latest release is HEAD" strategy is a huge problem<br>&gt; for those people writing software which depends on freeswitch. FreeSWITCH<br>&gt; does not follow any defined versioning pattern, and thus determining wether<br>&gt; updates will break a system is next to impossible. Thus, many people run<br>&gt; out-of-date freeswitch systems out of fear.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; If the FS team were to adopt semver (<a
 href="http://semver.org/" target="_blank">http://semver.org</a>) then this issue<br>&gt; would be all but resolved, but they appear to be dead set against version<br>&gt; numbers which actually have meaning. Unfortunately the core team don't seem<br>&gt; to realise how much of a problem this is for downstream developers, and seem<br>&gt; unwilling to do anything to help in that regard. A sad state of affairs, and<br>&gt; my only real criticism of FreeSWITCH.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I hope 1.2 represents the beginning of a sensible and mature approach to<br>&gt; versioning for FreeSWITCH, and it can't be released soon enough for that<br>&gt; very reason.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Regards,<br>&gt; Ben Langfeld<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On 19 July 2012 15:37, Stanislav Sinyagin &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:ssinyagin@yahoo.com" href="mailto:ssinyagin@yahoo.com">ssinyagin@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; by the way, any plans to fork a "stable" Git branch and use it
 only for<br>&gt; bugfixes, whereas "master" would absorb also all new features?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; What I see now in the commit log, is the "master" branch also used for<br>&gt; normal development, and not only for bugfixes. This way it's difficult to<br>&gt; expect the final 1.2 release any time soon.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; ________________________________<br>&gt;&nbsp; From: Peter Olsson &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:peter.olsson@visionutveckling.se" href="mailto:peter.olsson@visionutveckling.se">peter.olsson@visionutveckling.se</a>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp; To: FreeSWITCH Users Help &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org" href="mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org</a>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp; Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:47 PM<br>&gt;&nbsp; Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Which FS version to use?<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Current git head is
 always the recommended version. If you find any<br>&gt; problems, please report them to Jira. Git head is currently at 1.2 RC2 state<br>&gt; (waiting for a stable 1.2 release), so the more things we get fixed, the<br>&gt; better!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Please retry the ENUM problems on latest git again, and if it still fails,<br>&gt; report this to Jira.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; /Peter<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 19 jul 2012 kl. 12:51 skrev "Miha" &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:miha@softnet.si" href="mailto:miha@softnet.si">miha@softnet.si</a>&gt;:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Hi,<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; on my production server I have version:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; freeswitch@default&gt; version<br>&gt;&gt; FreeSWITCH Version 1.0.head (git-00de8e6 2011-11-01 17-27-13 -0600)<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; which is in my case very stable, I can say perfect.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; As I have prepare other, more powerfull server for FS I have installed<br>&gt;&gt; FS from latest git. With version 1.2 rc1 I
 was having problems with load<br>&gt;&gt; and all users did not regisered (loosing connection). I do no know if<br>&gt;&gt; this was FS problem but I do not have this problems on production<br>&gt;&gt; server. Few day ago I did a new git pull. Now I have version 1.2 rc2<br>&gt;&gt; which enum do not work. I traced with wireshark but afer I put in fs_cli<br>&gt;&gt; enum 123123123, Fs sends nothing.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; So on git.freeswitch.com &lt;<a href="http://git.freeswitch.com/" target="_blank">http://git.freeswitch.com</a>&gt;&nbsp; are versions 1.0.6,<br>&gt;&gt; 1.2 rc2 and 1.2 rc1. Which<br>&gt;&gt; version to use? Is 1.0.6 most stable for now as 1.2 is rc?<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Where can I find version of FS which I am running on production server?<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Thanks for all your help!<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; miha<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;
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