[Freeswitch-users] VoIP IP DSLAMs

Fri Jun 17 14:57:44 MSD 2011

huh ... that's quiet pricey. perhaps an IP DSLAM + FXS would be a cheaper
setup. in rural areas, many are still dinosaurs.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:29 PM, David Ponzone <david.ponzone at ipeva.fr>wrote:

> Hmmm unlikely I think.
> The Zhone box for instance seems to be around 11,000$.
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> Le 17/06/2011 à 10:25, Nandy Dagondon a écrit :
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> yes, it doesn't add up because the application is in a rural area. the
> Phybridge is a good solution except for the price. thanks David. however,
> the MSAN, perfectly describes what i'm looking - hopefully the investment is
> lower.
>
> thanks to all who contributed.
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:37 PM, David Ponzone <david.ponzone at ipeva.fr>wrote:
>
>> Nandy,
>>
>> something does not add up.
>> When you deploy DSLAMs for public lines, it's not for 24/48 ports, but
>> rather for 20 000 to 30 000 ports.
>> Perhaps there is a confusion about what is a public line.
>> A public line is the 200 meters-8km pair of copper going from the local
>> (legacy) telco facility to your house.
>> You don't install your own DSLAMs for 24/48 ports, or perhaps you are in a
>> very specific situation.
>> I really doubt you will find a cost effective DSLAM for so few ports.
>> Plus, you realize you will need to install on DSLAM in all the telco
>> facilities required to get the coverage you need
>>
>> There are small DSLAMs on the market, but they are targeted for private
>> lines (hospitality, health care, ...) and I really don't know if they can
>> work on public lines.
>>
>> In case you actually need a small DSLAM just to run ADSL over a private
>> pair of copper, you should have a look at:
>>
>> http://www.phybridge.com/uniphyer-ip-phones.aspx
>>
>> This thing does not call itself a DSLAM but it is one.
>> They market that as a "switch" that enables LAN on your copper wires.
>> It's a small lie for data usage as you only get 25Mbps/1.4Mbps (ATM), but
>> for voice, that's enough.
>> Basically, you put the "switch"-DSLAM in the network cabinet where the
>> copper wires go, you connect the wires to it, you connect the ethernet port
>> to your LAN (so your FS). In each room/office, you plug an adapter (provided
>> also by Phybridge) which is basically a small ADSL modem (powered from the
>> switch through the wire), from which you get an ethernet port, with POE on
>> it!
>>
>> I like the solution on the paper, but never used. Because of the cost:
>> a 24 ports switch is 3500$
>> one adapter is 122$
>>
>> so a full 24 ports solution would be 6500$, which is not very competitive
>> compared to recabling the place.
>>
>> But your mileage may vary.
>>
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>> Le 17/06/2011 à 08:28, Nandy Dagondon a écrit :
>>
>> yes, without ATM layer and it's for public lines.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:19 PM, David Ponzone <david.ponzone at ipeva.fr>wrote:
>>
>>> Which density are you looking for ?
>>> Is it for use in a private building or on public lines ?
>>>
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>>> Le 17/06/2011 à 08:07, Nandy Dagondon a écrit :
>>>
>>> hello guys!
>>>
>>> i'm trying to setup a small exchange w/ Internet service - of course,
>>> using FS as the exchange. DSLAMs connect to POTS via 2-wire splitters and
>>> that would require using FXS gateway (as what Rob mentioned).
>>>
>>> i'm trying to find out if there's a way we can omit the FXS - so it's
>>> FS-to-DSLAM direct via IP.  i'm not sure if this setup is now possible on
>>> newer IP DSLAMs.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:45 AM, jay binks <jaybinks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> this is MY take on what Nandy is after.
>>>>
>>>> A Dslam provides DSL on certain frequencies of the line..
>>>> ( some of ) the other frequencies are used for voice.
>>>>
>>>> my understanding is that sometimes this is split off to another device
>>>> to provide the voice,
>>>> but in this case Nandy is after a DSlam that will do the DSL part AND
>>>> the voice frequencies ( Voice signalling / audio by SIP / RTP )
>>>>
>>>> I guess this is a logical question and would be quite interesting to see
>>>> if there are such devices..
>>>> sorry I dont know of any :(
>>>>
>>>> Jay
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Rob Hutton <justlikeef at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can you explain further what you are trying to do?  A DSLAM is a device
>>>>> that provides DSL transport, which is independent of what you run across it.
>>>>>  So normally, you have
>>>>>
>>>>> |Server | ----|network|----|DSLAM| --------[dsl line] -------[modem or
>>>>> modem/router combo]-----[network]---[Client]
>>>>>
>>>>> What the Server is (Could be Freeswitch) and what the Client is (could
>>>>> be a VOIP phone) are independent of the transport???  Onewire, Cisco, and
>>>>> others make some DSL Modem/Router combos with integrated Voip to FXS ports
>>>>> for the CPE end.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you find a DSLAM running one of the OSs that Freeswitch supports,
>>>>> you could compile Freeswitch for it, but I haven't seen one with enough CPU
>>>>> tp handle much besides the traffic.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday 16 June 2011 19:03:50 Nandy Dagondon wrote:
>>>>> > hello everybody,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > i'm looking for small (24/48 ports)  IP DSLAMs that inter-connects
>>>>> directly
>>>>> > to FreeSwitch via IP.  is this already available on the market? or do
>>>>> we
>>>>> > still have to connect FreeSwitch via POTS splitters and FXS gateways?
>>>>> i
>>>>> > appreciate if you can mention some brands/models.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > tks,
>>>>> > nandy
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sincerely
>>>>
>>>> Jay
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