[Freeswitch-users] Replace "Freeswitch" in SDP

[Michael Jerris]

It's worse than that, we have a bunch of code that enables special behavior when freeswitch talks to itself or to other known broken devices.  You break that capability by changing this information.

Mike

On Apr 27, 2010, at 9:21 PM, Frank Church wrote:

> There is a point to hiding the UA. Recently a system I developed based
> on you know what, was triggering a crash in a provider's system after
> a few calls were made. It would all come to halt. Their UA used their
> company's name and it was only later I realized that it was 'YKW.
> 
> In such a case no one could claim that it was because they were using
> 'YKW' that their system was so unstable. They did upgrade their system
> to the latest version of 'YKW' and the problem went away. I also made
> some changes in my systems NATing. To date I don't know whether the
> change I made stopped triggering the crashing, or whether it the
> upgrade they made that caused it to stop.
> 
> But I don't think that is what Ken is trying to avoid.
> 
> The problem is if there are some known interopability issues, hiding
> the UA name will not help diagnosis.
> 
> On 27 April 2010 23:35, Ken Fulmer <kenfulmer at icstechnologysolutions.com> wrote:
>> I can see your point. They probably won’t be churning out new Freeswitch
>> systems anytime soon, regardless of what we’re doing / not doing.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org
>> [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Michael
>> Giagnocavo
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 5:06 PM
>> To: freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org
>> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Replace "Freeswitch" in SDP
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And I’m merely poking fun at the concept of competitors serious enough to
>> pose a threat, yet dumb enough not to know how to use Google.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Honestly, if your competition is sitting there saying “oh well, I guess we
>> gotta dish out half a mil for NexTone” and the only thing that changes their
>> mind is “oh wow, we saw the SDP of Ken’s company and it says freeswitch –
>> yey, we can save tons of money!” – well that’s some funny competitors and I
>> can’t see them posing any threat regardless if you gave them all your
>> secrets.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Michael
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org
>> [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Ken
>> Fulmer
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:34 PM
>> To: freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org
>> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Replace "Freeswitch" in SDP
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry if I came across harshly toward the group. My response was meant for
>> the following remark:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “Wait, so your "competition" can't figure out to use FreeSWITCH, yet they
>> are still competition? I mean, you got people sitting around going "hmm how
>> can bet beat Ken, damn we can't- -- OH FREESWITCH NOW I GET IT!!!"?”
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I was merely trying to ask a question to see if it’s possible. I didn’t mean
>> to cause a problem on this user list.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org
>> [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Anthony
>> Minessale
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 4:08 PM
>> To: freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org
>> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Replace "Freeswitch" in SDP
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ok so I guess that means you don't want to sponsor ClueCon......
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What's wrong with it is that is your problem not ours.
>> 
>> Our problem is to write a full featured soft switch for free for everyone to
>> use not just you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Wanting to make FreeSWITCH the world's best kept secret is not on our
>> roadmap so we don't rush out to teach everyone how to hide it but if you
>> look hard enough you'll probably figure it out.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Ken Fulmer
>> <kenfulmer at icstechnologysolutions.com> wrote:
>> 
>> We have competitors using vendor solutions that are expensive as hell. So,
>> we are trying to counter with a less expensive but powerful solution. What
>> exactly is wrong with that? And what is wrong with trying to extend the
>> barrier to entry for our competitors as long as possible? Not sure why
>> there's such a mystery here...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org
>> 
>> [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Michael
>> Giagnocavo
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:39 PM
>> To: freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org
>> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Replace "Freeswitch" in SDP
>> 
>> Wait, so your "competition" can't figure out to use FreeSWITCH, yet they are
>> still competition? I mean, you got people sitting around going "hmm how can
>> bet beat Ken, damn we can't- -- OH FREESWITCH NOW I GET IT!!!"?
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org
>> [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Ken
>> Fulmer
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:48 PM
>> To: freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org
>> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Replace "Freeswitch" in SDP
>> 
>> Very true. We're just trying to stay one step ahead of the local
>> competition.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org
>> [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Kristian
>> Kielhofner
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:37 PM
>> To: freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org
>> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Replace "Freeswitch" in SDP
>> 
>> While I understand the request:
>> 
>> 1)  They are going to find out anyway.
>> 2)  You are posting to FreeSWITCH-users using (presumably) your real name
>> and corporate e-mail address.
>> 
>> If you were looking to hide FreeSWITCH it's a little too late.
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Ken Fulmer
>> <kenfulmer at icstechnologysolutions.com> wrote:
>>> It's not meant to be offensive or anything. We'd just like to ensure
>>> the competition doesn't know what we're doing for as long as possible.
>>> That's all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ken
>> 
>> --
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