[Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects

mszlazak at aol.com mszlazak at aol.com
Wed Apr 1 13:31:01 PDT 2009

 You missed the point again. But suffer fools to long.


-----Original Message-----
From: Raymond Chandler <intralanman at freeswitch.org>
To: freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org
Sent: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:29 am
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Call For Help: Janitor Projects


mszlazak at aol.com wrote:

 Pardon me, but you speak only for yourself. I think Janitor is
not an appropriate word.


you're welcome to your opinions, no matter how wrong they are


Second, 'marketing and sales' does not only mean making money. It also
means 'selling' someone on the idea of trying something and effectively
spreading the word.




we don't try to sell anyone on the project... we'll tell you the pros
and cons, you decide if the software meets your needs or not.


 Third, the original developers can spend most of their time
developing because they're the creators so they know very well what's
going on with the code and don't need good documentation. Others need
good documentation to effectively work with FS or do development.
Currently the documentation is scattered, assumes to much and is

maybe you could fix some of that since you seem to be very enlightened
to its shortcomings? although, that might offend your delicate psyche
since you'd basically be a "janitor" then.

Also, there is a problem with not getting the "creators"
involved with documentation since someone doing the documentation will
have to ask them what's what. The "creators" never will be totally out
of the loop nor should they be. This doesn't apply only here in this
context but other similar ones as well. Keeping? "creators" from
inteact with "customers" is one big reason so many start-ups fail. 



hmmm, maybe you're right... maybe the whole idea of hierarchy is
entirely wrong.

i guess we could expect tony to document his own code... while we're at
it, let's suggest that microsoft has Bill Gates write documentation for
windows and answer tech support calls, right? cus i mean, obviously
everyone who writes code should obviously do everything else too,

but i guess that doesn't work the other direction... cus if you don't
know how to code, then you just can't code... its as simple as that. so
now we have effectively halved (or better) the development activities
of FreeSWITCH so there's less to document, but that's ok, because now
there's plenty of people using it and not contributing anything back...
and that's what open-source is really all about, right?

btw, i'm just curious if you're an employee of a commercial entity that
feels threatened by FreeSWITCH... what better way to decrease
productivity than to split hairs over something so stupid as the name
of an effort (janitor projects, in this case) that you're not going to
take part in anyway.

if i may ask, have you done anything constructive for the community at
all? all i've seen of you from the mailing lists is non-constructive
criticisms. not that we don't appreciate your trolling... its very
entertaining to see how narrow-minded some people are.



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