[Freeswitch-users] mod_cdr revival (or new module maybe)

Thu Oct 30 06:09:52 PDT 2008

Actually,

The goal is to not limit the functionality by over thinking how things will
be used but to provide building blocks to make much
more possible. Our analogy for this is that if you take the common lego
reference, If you have something cool built out of legos but they are super
glued together it limits what you *could* have done had then not been.

The system that David described is indeed ideal.  I have mentioned it more
than once and its no coincidence that FreeSWITCH plays into that model to a
tee.  I do not mention it very often because I think understanding that
concept alone is valuable advice that I'd prefer not to waste on deaf ears
so I recommend you heed his suggestion.

Logging direct to DB is not a sin or anything but it's just not very
reliable.  We have so many ways to process call records as it is.
you can use the cdr_csv if you want legacy support from asterisk that you
can eventually tweak with templatable output, you can even make a template
that generates the log as ready to roll sql statements you can just cat into
mysql.

We have event_socket + channel_hangup event which has all the same info that
the cdr_csv uses to generate the file.
We have the XML cdr that is a 3 dimensional view of the call with an account
of nearly everything that happend including
each application executed, branching records when the call is transferred
complete with a timestamp for each occurance.

--"However it would be great if freeswitch had the options for extra
functionality (auto log rotation, db cdrs etc)
so that it meets the peculiarities of every different project."

A single cron entry that does kill -HUP `cat freeswitch.pid` and you have
automatic rotation in unix.
In windows there are several cron equivs and instead of kill you can use an
xml-rpc script to call the FSAPI call "fsctl send_sighup"
also you can schedule it to happen automaticly with the FSAPI

sched_api @300 mygroup fsctl send_sighup

A script connected to event socket subscribed to channel_hangup can act as
your DB cdr engine and has the bonus that it could
connect to N boxes at once as well as be able to tell if the system was in
trouble by listening for system heartbeat events and or socket disconnect.

Moral of the story, there is more already there than first appears.  I've
always hated the M$ paper clip so I strive not to bring him back.
"It looks like you are trying to run a VoIP termination company! Shall I
assume how you want your call details?"

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:43 AM, regs at kinetix.gr <regs at kinetix.gr> wrote:

>  I'll try some tests with various combinations first and then decide what's
> best.
>
> I have to say that I was astonished to find out that freeswitch had so many
> event handlers from the very beginning.
> However it would be great if freeswitch had the options for extra
> functionality (auto log rotation, db cdrs etc)
> so that it meets the peculiarities of every different project. That would
> make a big difference compared to
> other softswitch solutions where the lack of such features prohibits people
> from using them (especially in
> the carrier grade level). User feedback (and wish lists) is the key for the
> success of an open source (or not)
> project...
>
> Thank you all for your replies. You' ve been very helpful.
>
>
> David Knell wrote:
>
> The sleep's done each time the directory's empty, not each time a file's
> written.  File open and close
> are trivial (it's probably still cached), and the contents are going to
> have to be parsed wherever you
> process it.
>
> We've used exactly this to process deliver CDRs on boxes handling in excess
> of 500K mins/day
> without issue.  And, looking at one now, the CDR processor's used about 4%
> of the CPU time
> of FreeSWITCH, and about half that of the MySQL database which it writes
> the records to, also
> on the local machine, from which they're simply copied to the main CDR
> processor.
>
> It performance simply isn't worth worrying about.
>
> --Dave
>
> "sleep for a couple of seconds"
>
> But then you could only insert 1800 cdrs per hour...
> If I was to insert 36000 cdrs per hour this means that I have to
> open
> parse
> close
> 10 files per second. Imagine the I/O penalty just for opening - closing the file.
> (the persing is the same for both situations)
>
>
>
>
>
> David Knell wrote:
>
> regs at kinetix.gr wrote:
>
>
>  Yes, the xml files give you tons of info... but isn't it a little
> insufficient - performance wise -
> to open and close so many files in such a little time. In a PBX
> environment that wouldn't be an
> issue but if we get to the small-voip-carrier level (some thousand cdrs
> per hour)
> that could slow things down considerably, wouldn't it?
>
>
>
>  Not that you'd notice.  We run XML CDR to database scripting on each box
> that we use
> for switching, and it's a pretty trivial task compared with switching
> all that media.  Doing it
> this way is:-
> (a) distributed - one process per box scales nicely;
> (b) robust - script down, DB down, no problem: files just queue up;
> (c) simple - the script logic is trivial:
> - while 1
>   - for each file in the XML CDR directory
>     - open it
>     - parse it (XML::Simple for us)
>     - insert it in to the DB
>     - delete it
>   - sleep for a couple of seconds
> Two error cases: can't parse or can't find data which should be there:
> move the file in to
> another directory to be examined by real eyes; DB insert fails: break
> out of inner loop and
> it'll be retried after a short pause.
>
> --Dave
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Freeswitch-users mailing listFreeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.orghttp://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users
> UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-usershttp://www.freeswitch.org
>
>
>
> --
> David Knell, Director, 3C Limited
> T: 020 8114 8901  F: 020 3002 7257  M: 001 415 630 3031http://www.3c.co.uk
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Freeswitch-users mailing listFreeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.orghttp://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users
> UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-usershttp://www.freeswitch.org
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Freeswitch-users mailing list
> Freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org
> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users
> UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users
> http://www.freeswitch.org
>
>

-- 
Anthony Minessale II

FreeSWITCH http://www.freeswitch.org/
ClueCon http://www.cluecon.com/

AIM: anthm
MSN:anthony_minessale at hotmail.com <MSN%3Aanthony_minessale at hotmail.com>
GTALK/JABBER/PAYPAL:anthony.minessale at gmail.com<PAYPAL%3Aanthony.minessale at gmail.com>
IRC: irc.freenode.net #freeswitch

FreeSWITCH Developer Conference
sip:888 at conference.freeswitch.org <sip%3A888 at conference.freeswitch.org>
iax:guest at conference.freeswitch.org/888
googletalk:conf+888 at conference.freeswitch.org<googletalk%3Aconf%2B888 at conference.freeswitch.org>
pstn:213-799-1400
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://lists.freeswitch.org/pipermail/freeswitch-users/attachments/20081030/6fbec4d1/attachment-0002.html 