[Freeswitch-users] [Freeswitch-dev] YAML support as an alternative of XML for configuration

Mon Jun 30 05:11:37 PDT 2008

I hate HTML, XML and all the *MLs, but XML has become de-facto standard
whether we like it or not, so I use it now with FS. I don't like but I
learnt and use it.

You can't be serious that Asterisk/Digium is ok when you ask them for a
feature or anything at all? Tony offered them to rewrite obvious broken core
to make it better, they said no. I tried 1.4 because of the new features
advertised, and I got no sleep beacuse of it for two weeks. What's the point
of polishing something that is without any doubt broken in core? I don't
understand why are you even looking at FS as an option, if Asterisk is ok
for your needs?

I don't even want to mention support I get on #freeswitch, compared to
bugs.digium.com and #asterisk.

The point is that some people aren't ready for compromise, and that is what
you are demonstrating right now. Please consider learning XML, it will only
do you do good.

Regards,
Ognjen

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:00 AM, Diego Viola <diego.viola at gmail.com> wrote:

> Brian,
>
> You said: "If XML is the single reason you won't be using FreeSWITCH
> then by all means stick with Asterisk, because we aren't going to beg
> you to use FreeSWITCH."
>
> This is sad, you claim that FreeSWITCH is more advanced in terms of
> features and innovation than Asterisk, but all I see with your
> attitude is that it's more limited and closed-minded.
>
> I'm afraid that I will have to stick with Asterisk, at least they
> aren't arrogant and closed-minded when you ask for a feature, all I
> want is a more effective way (for me) to configure FreeSWITCH, this is
> not going to hurt you or steal your freedom, or change the way you do
> things... it's only going to allow me to do things in the way I'm used
> to and I like.
>
> This is exactly why I love Free Software & Open Source, because it
> gives me the freedom to do things exactly the way I want, but I see I
> wont change your mind... so, good luck with FS.
>
> Diego
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Brian West <brian at freeswitch.org> wrote:
> > Diego,
> >        I can already tell you Its not going to happen.  The choice was
> made
> > early on and it was the correct one.  It's not something that can be
> > changed or modular.  If XML is the single reason you won't be using
> > FreeSWITCH then by all means stick with Asterisk, because we aren't
> > going to beg you to use FreeSWITCH.
> >
> > Read this for more info http://www.freeswitch.org/node/123
> >
> > /b
> >
> > On Jun 26, 2008, at 9:14 PM, Diego Viola wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everyone -
> >>
> >> I really love this project... I love the design you guys took with FS,
> >> I love the stability, the features, the openness of it, it's the VoIP
> >> platform I always dreamed of it... FreeSWITCH is what Asterisk should
> >> have been.
> >>
> >> But I just don't like one thing: XML.
> >>
> >> I also don't intend to create a flame war or troll with this thread,
> >> please take this as a suggestion of someone that really wants to use
> >> FS... XML is the only reason why I still stay with Asterisk, I just
> >> can't like XML, and I don't like Asterisk as well, I want FreeSWITCH
> >> stability, features, etc, but I can't like XML, not even if I try to,
> >> it's too slow to use/write, verbose and complex.
> >>
> >> As a sysadmin point of view, I prefer parameter=value but I realize
> >> the advantages of XML (data serialization, etc), this is also why I
> >> don't use mod_dialplan_asterisk, because I think it's time for
> >> something better than INI files, but XML isn't for me, I'm a
> >> Linux/UNIX guy and I don't want a GUI either, I love CLI, but I want
> >> something simple to use, read and write, and I think YAML is the best
> >> of the both worlds.
> >>
> >> I would like to have more than one option to configure FreeSWITCH,
> >> also, not everyone likes to do the same thing the same way and it
> >> would be really cool if FS gives this freedom to people...
> >>
> >> I would really like to see YAML as a configuration option in
> >> FreeSWITCH, give me this any day and I swear I don't toch Asterisk
> >> _ever again_, YAML can be used for data serialization and it's more
> >> simple than XML, Ruby projects like Rails uses it.
> >>
> >> Take a look here:
> >>
> >> http://yaml.org/spec/1.2/
> >> http://yaml.org/
> >>
> >> "YAML™ (rhymes with "camel") is a human-friendly, cross language,
> >> Unicode based data serialization language designed around the common
> >> native data types of agile programming languages. It is broadly useful
> >> for programming needs ranging from configuration files to Internet
> >> messaging to object persistence to data auditing. Together with the
> >> Unicode standard for characters, this specification provides all the
> >> information necessary to understand YAML Version 1.2 and to create
> >> programs that process YAML information. "
> >>
> >> Please consider it, I'm also willing to pay for a mod_yaml, other than
> >> this I really love FreeSWITCH and I think it's great, I will switch in
> >> a heartbeat if you guys add support for it ;-)
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Diego
> >>
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