I hate HTML, XML and all the *MLs, but XML has become de-facto standard whether we like it or not, so I use it now with FS. I don't like but I learnt and use it.<br><br>You can't be serious that Asterisk/Digium is ok when you ask them for a feature or anything at all? Tony offered them to rewrite obvious broken core to make it better, they said no. I tried 1.4 because of the new features advertised, and I got no sleep beacuse of it for two weeks. What's the point of polishing something that is without any doubt broken in core? I don't understand why are you even looking at FS as an option, if Asterisk is ok for your needs? <br>
<br>I don't even want to mention support I get on #freeswitch, compared to <a href="http://bugs.digium.com">bugs.digium.com</a> and #asterisk.<br><br>The point is that some people aren't ready for compromise, and that is what you are demonstrating right now. Please consider learning XML, it will only do you do good.<br>
<br>Regards,<br>Ognjen<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:00 AM, Diego Viola <<a href="mailto:diego.viola@gmail.com">diego.viola@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Brian,<br>
<br>
You said: "If XML is the single reason you won't be using FreeSWITCH<br>
then by all means stick with Asterisk, because we aren't going to beg<br>
you to use FreeSWITCH."<br>
<br>
This is sad, you claim that FreeSWITCH is more advanced in terms of<br>
features and innovation than Asterisk, but all I see with your<br>
attitude is that it's more limited and closed-minded.<br>
<br>
I'm afraid that I will have to stick with Asterisk, at least they<br>
aren't arrogant and closed-minded when you ask for a feature, all I<br>
want is a more effective way (for me) to configure FreeSWITCH, this is<br>
not going to hurt you or steal your freedom, or change the way you do<br>
things... it's only going to allow me to do things in the way I'm used<br>
to and I like.<br>
<br>
This is exactly why I love Free Software & Open Source, because it<br>
gives me the freedom to do things exactly the way I want, but I see I<br>
wont change your mind... so, good luck with FS.<br>
<br>
Diego<br>
<br>
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Brian West <<a href="mailto:brian@freeswitch.org">brian@freeswitch.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> Diego,<br>
> I can already tell you Its not going to happen. The choice was made<br>
> early on and it was the correct one. It's not something that can be<br>
> changed or modular. If XML is the single reason you won't be using<br>
> FreeSWITCH then by all means stick with Asterisk, because we aren't<br>
> going to beg you to use FreeSWITCH.<br>
><br>
> Read this for more info <a href="http://www.freeswitch.org/node/123" target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org/node/123</a><br>
><br>
> /b<br>
><br>
> On Jun 26, 2008, at 9:14 PM, Diego Viola wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi everyone -<br>
>><br>
>> I really love this project... I love the design you guys took with FS,<br>
>> I love the stability, the features, the openness of it, it's the VoIP<br>
>> platform I always dreamed of it... FreeSWITCH is what Asterisk should<br>
>> have been.<br>
>><br>
>> But I just don't like one thing: XML.<br>
>><br>
>> I also don't intend to create a flame war or troll with this thread,<br>
>> please take this as a suggestion of someone that really wants to use<br>
>> FS... XML is the only reason why I still stay with Asterisk, I just<br>
>> can't like XML, and I don't like Asterisk as well, I want FreeSWITCH<br>
>> stability, features, etc, but I can't like XML, not even if I try to,<br>
>> it's too slow to use/write, verbose and complex.<br>
>><br>
>> As a sysadmin point of view, I prefer parameter=value but I realize<br>
>> the advantages of XML (data serialization, etc), this is also why I<br>
>> don't use mod_dialplan_asterisk, because I think it's time for<br>
>> something better than INI files, but XML isn't for me, I'm a<br>
>> Linux/UNIX guy and I don't want a GUI either, I love CLI, but I want<br>
>> something simple to use, read and write, and I think YAML is the best<br>
>> of the both worlds.<br>
>><br>
>> I would like to have more than one option to configure FreeSWITCH,<br>
>> also, not everyone likes to do the same thing the same way and it<br>
>> would be really cool if FS gives this freedom to people...<br>
>><br>
>> I would really like to see YAML as a configuration option in<br>
>> FreeSWITCH, give me this any day and I swear I don't toch Asterisk<br>
>> _ever again_, YAML can be used for data serialization and it's more<br>
>> simple than XML, Ruby projects like Rails uses it.<br>
>><br>
>> Take a look here:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="http://yaml.org/spec/1.2/" target="_blank">http://yaml.org/spec/1.2/</a><br>
>> <a href="http://yaml.org/" target="_blank">http://yaml.org/</a><br>
>><br>
>> "YAML™ (rhymes with "camel") is a human-friendly, cross language,<br>
>> Unicode based data serialization language designed around the common<br>
>> native data types of agile programming languages. It is broadly useful<br>
>> for programming needs ranging from configuration files to Internet<br>
>> messaging to object persistence to data auditing. Together with the<br>
>> Unicode standard for characters, this specification provides all the<br>
>> information necessary to understand YAML Version 1.2 and to create<br>
>> programs that process YAML information. "<br>
>><br>
>> Please consider it, I'm also willing to pay for a mod_yaml, other than<br>
>> this I really love FreeSWITCH and I think it's great, I will switch in<br>
>> a heartbeat if you guys add support for it ;-)<br>
>><br>
>> Best regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Diego<br>
>><br>
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