[Freeswitch-docs] Opening discussion: Community
Bote Man
bote_radio at botecomm.com
Fri Jun 27 18:04:58 MSD 2014
I agree that the Community section is important, that's why I created it on Confluence. I intended for it to be the page where FS users can find other FS users. Perhaps it should be near the top of the outline in order to attract the immediate attention of newcomers?
One thing is certain: we must absolutely NOT be bound by what was done on the old MediaWiki. If things on the old wiki were scattered, disorganized, duplicated, or just plain confusing, then Confluence is our big chance to improve upon that. This is a good start.
Thanks.
Bote
From: freeswitch-docs-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-docs-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Areski
Sent: Friday, 27 June, 2014 05:32
To: FreeSWITCH Docs Team
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-docs] Opening discussion: Community
Hi Bote,
Moving page is a bit more powerful than reorder but it also allow one to move a page within the same space,
it's explained in detail here: https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF52/Moving+a+Page
So yes and no, we need move page to work correctly, re-order give me the same outcome as moving a page. Please give it a go, try to move "Reporting bugs" under "Community", and let's see if this works for you. >From my side, it seems to move without error but as soon as it refresh it goes back where it was :/
I really think it's a bug or a permission issue...
To answer your second question, last week I suggested the following:
Community
+
+----> Contributing (main page on contribute code/docs)
| +
| +-----> Reporting Bugs
| | +
| | +-----> Report issue checklist
| |
| +-----> Docs Team
| | +
| | +-----> all pages under Docs Team...
| +
| +-----> Bounty
| | +
| | +-----> Bounty Completed
| |
| +-----> Using Git (merge Installing Git / Tips for using Git pages)
|
+----> MailingList
|
+----> IRC
|
+----> ClueCon Weekly Conference call
|
+----> ClueCon
The goal was to regroup meaningful pages together rather than having too many links on the left menu or pages accessible from confusing area
I also agree that pages should have useful content, and IRC page is not a wasted page and it's actually similar to the page we had previously https://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/IRC
Now in other hand the community page is very similar to the module page (https://confluence.freeswitch.org/display/FREESWITCH/Modules) it points the reader to the right direction if they don't know yet what they are looking for.
I think a good community page is important and it has a very big value for peoples willing to get in touch with the community, knowing about events and contribute to the project. We should look at how other take advantage of it : https://www.openstack.org/community/ & http://www.docker.com/community/ before rejecting the idea :)
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 3:07 AM, Mario G <mario_fs at mgtech.com> wrote:
Sorry, reorder is what I meant (I already moved pages from my space many weeks ago and it worked then). Reordering some pages works for some but not other pages. I can’t reorder the OS X pages even though I created them. I can reorder other pages, at least a couple of weeks ago. Please keep in mind I know how to move and reorder and have done so many times since I spent a lot of time studying Confluence doc. The problem is Confluence does not always work as it should as in this case.
Mario G
On Jun 26, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Bote Man <bote_radio at botecomm.com> wrote:
Why do you need to move any pages?
The "Space tools -> Re-order pages" menu command takes you to the outline tree. You can drag and drop pages anywhere in the outline. This does not change the URL link so it is simple and easy to do. This is the proper way to do it.
If you release the page link onto an existing page link in the outline, it will become a child of that page. If you release the page link in between other pages in the outline it will be moved in between them as a sibling.
The "Tools -> Move" command is for moving pages to a different Confluence "space" but we have only one space and that is FREESWITCH. This depends on having page delete permission because the move operation = copy + delete.
I'm sorry that I have been missing these e-mails. My Outlook e-mail client is smarter than I am and it was following the rule that I set up to file these messages in with the general Freeswitch-users mailing list which I have not read regularly in some time. I just solved that problem.
Also, Anthony recommends (and I agree) that pages have actual meaningful content on them. IIRC I had most of the information relating to our open source community contained within the Community page. Now it has only one sentence each and then links to other pages and I'm not sure why that is desirable?
Thanks!
Bote
From: freeswitch-docs-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-docs-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Areski
Sent: Wednesday, 25 June, 2014 09:47
To: FreeSWITCH Docs Team
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-docs] Opening discussion: Community
I would also agree, what annoy me is only the fact that I cannot move `some` pages.
As a workaround, I could delete the content and mark the page with tag 'to-delete' and then copy the content on the new page.
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Brian West < <mailto:brian at freeswitch.org> brian at freeswitch.org> wrote:
Keep that locked down.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 25, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Ken Rice < <mailto:krice at freeswitch.org> krice at freeswitch.org> wrote:
Deletion of pages is still restricted...
Bote/Brian, is this something we want to enable for anyone that has edit perms or do we just want to tag them for deletion, then we can go thru at one time and have an admin delete them. This will ensure that someone with edit perms doesn’t do anything that’s a major pain to recover (no matter if they did it purposely or accidentally)
K
On 6/25/14 8:14 AM, "Areski" < <http://areski@gmail.com/> areski at gmail.com> wrote:
it works for me too, but still I cannot delete pages or move some of them.
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Adolphe Cher-Aime < <http://acheraime@gmail.com/> acheraime at gmail.com> wrote:
Works for me.
Thanks Ken.
Adolphe
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Ken Rice < <http://krice@freeswitch.org/> krice at freeswitch.org> wrote:
Ok lets give this another try...
The Confluence permission system make me wonder wtf they were thinking at the time
On 6/25/14 7:48 AM, "Adolphe Cher-Aime" < <http://acheraime@gmail.com/> acheraime at gmail.com < <http://acheraime@gmail.com/> http://acheraime@gmail.com> > wrote:
Same here.
Thanks,
Adolphe
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Areski < <http://areski@gmail.com/> areski at gmail.com < <http://areski@gmail.com/> http://areski@gmail.com> > wrote:
I still face the same issue.
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Ken Rice < <http://krice@freeswitch.org/> krice at freeswitch.org < <http://krice@freeswitch.org/> http://krice@freeswitch.org> > wrote:
Hey Adolphe, Areski, can you give it another attempt and report back?
If you can not login, please remove and cookies you might have that have either crowd or freeswitch in the string identifying the cookie.
thanks
On 6/24/14 4:33 PM, "Areski" < <http://areski@gmail.com/> areski at gmail.com< <http://areski@gmail.com/> http://areski@gmail.com> < <http://areski@gmail.com/> http://areski@gmail.com> > wrote:
I'm now denied of access to confluence:
>>
You are not permitted to perform this operation.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Ken Rice < <http://krice@freeswitch.org/> krice at freeswitch.org < <http://krice@freeswitch.org/> http://krice@freeswitch.org> < <http://krice@freeswitch.org/> http://krice@freeswitch.org> > wrote:
Make sure you clear all your cookies for anything related to <http://freeswitch.org/> freeswitch.org < <http://freeswitch.org/> http://freeswitch.org> < <http://freeswitch.org/> http://freeswitch.org> < <http://freeswitch.org/> http://freeswitch.org> and give it another go...
On 6/24/14 12:43 PM, "Adolphe Cher-Aime" < <http://acheraime@gmail.com/> acheraime at gmail.com < <http://acheraime@gmail.com/> http://acheraime@gmail.com> < <http://acheraime@gmail.com/> http://acheraime@gmail.com> < <http://acheraime@gmail.com/> http://acheraime@gmail.com> > wrote:
Hi Ken,
Any update? I'm still unauthorized.
Thanks,
Adolphe
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Adolphe Cher-Aime < <http://acheraime@gmail.com/> acheraime at gmail.com < <http://acheraime@gmail.com/> http://acheraime@gmail.com> < <http://acheraime@gmail.com/> http://acheraime@gmail.com> < <http://acheraime@gmail.com/> http://acheraime@gmail.com> > wrote:
No it does not.
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Ken Rice < <http://krice@freeswitch.org/> krice at freeswitch.org < <http://krice@freeswitch.org/> http://krice@freeswitch.org> < <http://krice@freeswitch.org/> http://krice@freeswitch.org> < <http://krice@freeswitch.org/> http://krice@freeswitch.org> > wrote:
Try logging in again... Let me know if it doesn’t work
On 6/23/14 2:03 PM, "Adolphe Cher-Aime" < <http://acheraime@gmail.com/> acheraime at gmail.com< <http://acheraime@gmail.com/> http://acheraime@gmail.com> < <http://acheraime@gmail.com/> http://acheraime@gmail.com> < <http://acheraime@gmail.com/> http://acheraime@gmail.com> < <http://acheraime@gmail.com/> http://acheraime@gmail.com> > wrote:
All, again I'm not permitted to do anything in confluence?
Can anybody help?
Thanks.
Adolphe
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Mario G < <http://mario_fs@mgtech.com/> mario_fs at mgtech.com< <http://mario_fs@mgtech.com/> http://mario_fs@mgtech.com> < <http://mario_fs@mgtech.com/> http://mario_fs@mgtech.com> < <http://mario_fs@mgtech.com/> http://mario_fs@mgtech.com> < <http://mario_fs@mgtech.com/> http://mario_fs@mgtech.com> > wrote:
I wonder if it’s related to me being able to re-order some pages but not others?
Mario G
On Jun 20, 2014, at 3:38 AM, Areski < <http://areski@gmail.com/> areski at gmail.com< <http://areski@gmail.com/> http://areski@gmail.com> < <http://areski@gmail.com/> http://areski@gmail.com> < <http://areski@gmail.com/> http://areski@gmail.com> < <http://areski@gmail.com/> http://areski@gmail.com> > wrote:
There is some pages that I cannot move, but I don't get any error message on Confluence... and with some it works :/
<https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF52/Moving+a+Page> https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF52/Moving+a+Page
Maybe it's a permission issue, I realize I cannot delete pages anymore.
Any hints?
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Brian West < <http://brian@freeswitch.org/> brian at freeswitch.org< <http://brian@freeswitch.org/> http://brian@freeswitch.org> < <http://brian@freeswitch.org/> http://brian@freeswitch.org> < <http://brian@freeswitch.org/> http://brian@freeswitch.org> < <http://brian@freeswitch.org/> http://brian@freeswitch.org> > wrote:
I don't see any problem with that, Its easy to change if it doesn't work out well.
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On Jun 19, 2014, at 10:01 AM, Areski < <http://areski@gmail.com/> areski at gmail.com< <http://areski@gmail.com/> http://areski@gmail.com> < <http://areski@gmail.com/> http://areski@gmail.com> < <http://areski@gmail.com/> http://areski@gmail.com> < <http://areski@gmail.com/> http://areski@gmail.com> > wrote:
Hi DocsTeam,
I'm troubled by those 4 pages:
- <https://confluence.freeswitch.org/display/FREESWITCH/Community> https://confluence.freeswitch.org/display/FREESWITCH/Community
- <https://confluence.freeswitch.org/display/FREESWITCH/Contributing> https://confluence.freeswitch.org/display/FREESWITCH/Contributing
- <https://confluence.freeswitch.org/display/FREESWITCH/Developers> https://confluence.freeswitch.org/display/FREESWITCH/Developers
- <https://confluence.freeswitch.org/display/FREESWITCH/Reporting+Bugs> https://confluence.freeswitch.org/display/FREESWITCH/Reporting+Bugs
especially by their current position in Confluence.
I `personally` would like to see the following in the pagetree:
Community
+
+----> Contributing (main page on contribute code/docs)
| +
| +-----> Reporting Bugs
| | +
| | +-----> Report issue checklist
| |
| +-----> Docs Team
| | +
| | +-----> all pages under Docs Team...
| +
| +-----> Bounty
| | +
| | +-----> Bounty list
| | +-----> Bounty Completed
| |
| +-----> Using Git (merge Installing Git / Tips for using Git pages)
|
+----> MailingList
|
+----> IRC
|
+----> ClueCon Weekly Conference call
|
+----> ClueCon (new page to present Cluecon)
Opinions / feedback / thoughts?
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