[Freeswitch-docs] Opening discussion: Community

Areski areski at gmail.com
Fri Jun 27 13:32:07 MSD 2014


Hi Bote,

Moving page is a bit more powerful than reorder but it also allow one to
move a page within the same space,
it's explained in detail here:
https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF52/Moving+a+Page

So yes and no, we need move page to work correctly, re-order give me the
same outcome as moving a page. Please give it a go, try to move "Reporting
bugs" under "Community", and let's see if this works for you. From my side,
it seems to move without error but as soon as it refresh it goes back where
it was :/

I really think it's a bug or a permission issue...


To answer your second question, last week I suggested the following:

Community
    +
    +----> Contributing (main page on contribute code/docs)
    |         +
    |         +-----> Reporting Bugs
    |         |         +
    |         |         +-----> Report issue checklist
    |         |
    |         +-----> Docs Team
    |         |         +
    |         |         +-----> all pages under Docs Team...
    |         +
    |         +-----> Bounty
    |         |         +
    |         |         +-----> Bounty Completed
    |         |
    |         +-----> Using Git (merge Installing Git / Tips for using Git
pages)
    |
    +----> MailingList
    |
    +----> IRC
    |
    +----> ClueCon Weekly Conference call

    |
    +----> ClueCon

The goal was to regroup meaningful pages together rather than having too
many links on the left menu or pages accessible from confusing area

I also agree that pages should have useful content, and IRC page is not a
wasted page and it's actually similar to the page we had previously
https://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/IRC
Now in other hand the community page is very similar to the module page (
https://confluence.freeswitch.org/display/FREESWITCH/Modules) it points the
reader to the right direction if they don't know yet what they are looking
for.

I think a good community page is important and it has a very big value for
peoples willing to get in touch with the community, knowing about events
and contribute to the project. We should look at how other take advantage
of it : https://www.openstack.org/community/ &
http://www.docker.com/community/ before rejecting the idea :)




On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 3:07 AM, Mario G <mario_fs at mgtech.com> wrote:

> Sorry, reorder is what I meant (I already *moved* pages from my space
> many weeks ago and it worked then). Reordering some pages works for some
> but not other pages. I can’t reorder the OS X pages even though I created
> them. I can reorder other pages, at least a couple of weeks ago. Please
> keep in mind *I know how to move and reorder and have done so many times
> since I spent a lot of time studying Confluence doc*. The problem is
> Confluence does not always work as it should as in this case.
> Mario G
>
> On Jun 26, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Bote Man <bote_radio at botecomm.com> wrote:
>
>  Why do you need to move any pages?
>
> The "Space tools -> Re-order pages" menu command takes you to the outline
> tree. You can drag and drop pages anywhere in the outline. This does not
> change the URL link so it is simple and easy to do. This is the proper way
> to do it.
>
> If you release the page link onto an existing page link in the outline, it
> will become a child of that page. If you release the page link in between
> other pages in the outline it will be moved in between them as a sibling.
>
> The "Tools -> Move" command is for moving pages to a different Confluence
> "space" but we have only one space and that is FREESWITCH. This depends on
> having page delete permission because the move operation = copy + delete.
>
> I'm sorry that I have been missing these e-mails. My Outlook e-mail client
> is smarter than I am and it was following the rule that I set up to file
> these messages in with the general Freeswitch-users mailing list which I
> have not read regularly in some time. I just solved that problem.
>
> Also, Anthony recommends (and I agree) that pages have actual meaningful
> content on them. IIRC I had most of the information relating to our open
> source community contained within the Community page. Now it has only one
> sentence each and then links to other pages and I'm not sure why that is
> desirable?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bote
>
>
>  *From:* freeswitch-docs-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org [
> mailto:freeswitch-docs-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org
> <freeswitch-docs-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org>] *On Behalf Of *Areski
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 25 June, 2014 09:47
> *To:* FreeSWITCH Docs Team
> *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-docs] Opening discussion: Community
>
> I would also agree, what annoy me is only the fact that I cannot move
> `some` pages.
> As a workaround, I could delete the content and mark the page with tag
> 'to-delete' and then copy the content on the new page.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Brian West <brian at freeswitch.org> wrote:
> Keep that locked down.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Ken Rice <krice at freeswitch.org> wrote:
>
> Deletion of pages is still restricted...
>
> Bote/Brian, is this something we want to enable for anyone that has edit
> perms or do we just want to tag them for deletion, then we can go thru at
> one time and have an admin delete them. This will ensure that someone with
> edit perms doesn’t do anything that’s a major pain to recover (no matter if
> they did it purposely or accidentally)
>
> K
>
>
> On 6/25/14 8:14 AM, "Areski" <areski at gmail.com> wrote:
> it works for me too, but still I cannot delete pages or move some of them.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Adolphe Cher-Aime <acheraime at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Works for me.
>
> Thanks  Ken.
>
>
> Adolphe
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Ken Rice <krice at freeswitch.org> wrote:
>
> Ok lets give this another try...
>
> The Confluence permission system make me wonder wtf they were thinking at
> the time
>
>
>
> On 6/25/14 7:48 AM, "Adolphe Cher-Aime" <acheraime at gmail.com <
> http://acheraime@gmail.com> > wrote:
> Same  here.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Adolphe
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Areski <areski at gmail.com <
> http://areski@gmail.com> > wrote:
> I still face the same issue.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Ken Rice <krice at freeswitch.org <
> http://krice@freeswitch.org> > wrote:
>
>
> Hey Adolphe, Areski, can you give it another attempt and report back?
>
> If you can not login, please remove and cookies you might have that have
> either crowd or freeswitch in the string identifying the cookie.
>
> thanks
>
>
> On 6/24/14 4:33 PM, "Areski" <areski at gmail.com<http://areski@gmail.com>  <
> http://areski@gmail.com> > wrote:
> I'm now denied of access to confluence:
>
> >>
> You are not permitted to perform this operation.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Ken Rice <krice at freeswitch.org <
> http://krice@freeswitch.org>  <http://krice@freeswitch.org> > wrote:
> Make sure you clear all your cookies for anything related to
> freeswitch.org <http://freeswitch.org>  <http://freeswitch.org>  <
> http://freeswitch.org>  and give it another go...
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/24/14 12:43 PM, "Adolphe Cher-Aime" <acheraime at gmail.com <
> http://acheraime@gmail.com>  <http://acheraime@gmail.com>  <
> http://acheraime@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> Any update? I'm still unauthorized.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adolphe
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Adolphe Cher-Aime <acheraime at gmail.com <
> http://acheraime@gmail.com>  <http://acheraime@gmail.com>  <
> http://acheraime@gmail.com> > wrote:
> No it does not.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Ken Rice <krice at freeswitch.org <
> http://krice@freeswitch.org>  <http://krice@freeswitch.org>  <
> http://krice@freeswitch.org> > wrote:
>
> Try logging in again... Let me know if it doesn’t work
>
>
>
> On 6/23/14 2:03 PM, "Adolphe Cher-Aime" <acheraime at gmail.com<
> http://acheraime@gmail.com>  <http://acheraime@gmail.com>  <
> http://acheraime@gmail.com>  <http://acheraime@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> All, again I'm not permitted to do anything in confluence?
> Can anybody help?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Adolphe
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Mario G <mario_fs at mgtech.com<
> http://mario_fs@mgtech.com>  <http://mario_fs@mgtech.com>  <
> http://mario_fs@mgtech.com>  <http://mario_fs@mgtech.com> > wrote:
> I wonder if it’s related to me being able to re-order some pages but not
> others?
> Mario G
>
> On Jun 20, 2014, at 3:38 AM, Areski <areski at gmail.com<
> http://areski@gmail.com>  <http://areski@gmail.com>  <
> http://areski@gmail.com>  <http://areski@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> There is some pages that I cannot move, but I don't get any error message
> on Confluence... and with some it works :/
> https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/CONF52/Moving+a+Page
>
> Maybe it's a permission issue, I realize I cannot delete pages anymore.
>
> Any hints?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Brian West <brian at freeswitch.org<
> http://brian@freeswitch.org>  <http://brian@freeswitch.org>  <
> http://brian@freeswitch.org>  <http://brian@freeswitch.org> > wrote:
> I don't see any problem with that, Its easy to change if it doesn't work
> out well.
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> On Jun 19, 2014, at 10:01 AM, Areski <areski at gmail.com<
> http://areski@gmail.com>  <http://areski@gmail.com>  <
> http://areski@gmail.com>  <http://areski@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Hi DocsTeam,
>
> I'm troubled by those 4 pages:
> -https://confluence.freeswitch.org/display/FREESWITCH/Community
> -https://confluence.freeswitch.org/display/FREESWITCH/Contributing
> -https://confluence.freeswitch.org/display/FREESWITCH/Developers
> -https://confluence.freeswitch.org/display/FREESWITCH/Reporting+Bugs
>
> especially by their current position in Confluence.
>
>
> I `personally` would like to see the following in the pagetree:
>
> Community
>     +
>     +----> Contributing (main page on contribute code/docs)
>     |         +
>     |         +-----> Reporting Bugs
>     |         |         +
>     |         |         +-----> Report issue checklist
>     |         |
>     |         +-----> Docs Team
>     |         |         +
>     |         |         +-----> all pages under Docs Team...
>     |         +
>     |         +-----> Bounty
>     |         |         +
>     |         |         +-----> Bounty list
>     |         |         +-----> Bounty Completed
>     |         |
>     |         +-----> Using Git (merge Installing Git / Tips for using Git
> pages)
>     |
>     +----> MailingList
>     |
>     +----> IRC
>     |
>     +----> ClueCon Weekly Conference call
>
>     |
>     +----> ClueCon (new page to present Cluecon)
>
>
> Opinions / feedback / thoughts?
>
>
> --
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