[Freeswitch-users] G.729 license...

Giovanni Maruzzelli gmaruzz at gmail.com
Mon Jan 8 14:35:27 UTC 2018 

On 8 January 2018 at 15:22, Tom Hartnett <hartnett.tom at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just chiming in here, as we've used G.729 with FS in the past. I fully
> support the core team getting income from licensed premium features, but
> perhaps it's time to let the G.729 thing go. With the patent licenses
> expired, and functional open source alternatives, and G.729 usage waning in
> general, It might be a good time to move it back into the main fold.
> There's lots of other add-ons I can think of that would make great
> "upgrades" the team could license out.
>

Tom, are you suggesting to let go of an established commercial practice
(which, btw, I suspect don't even pay for the bandwidth people use to
download FreeSWITCH, let alone pay who write the code) and start finding
ways to create semi-necessary "addons"
you-cannot-stay-without-if-you-are-serious
and squeeze all FreeSWITCH users ?

Ugh!

:D

-giovanni







>
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 7:02 AM, Prashant Lamba <prashant.lamba at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This was already discussed on other threads - Although the g729 Patent
>> has expired, it does not imply that FS Developers cant charge a license /
>> per port fee. They have developed G729 support and maintaining it.
>>
>> To save our tigers, save their habitat. Think before you print this
>> email. <www.saveourtigers.com>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 7:27 AM, Gregor Nanger <gregor at infomedia.si>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I would gladly buy licenceses, but g729 mod is not available for windows
>>> :-(
>>>
>>> 2018-01-07 20:37 GMT+01:00 Bipin Patel <bipin at xbipin.com>:
>>>
>>>> Well I'm also not making money out of it but just to support old or
>>>> slow clients we also need it. In asterisk at least there is that open
>>>> source g729 coded which might not be optimized but at least supporting it
>>>> is better than nothing.
>>>>
>>>> On January 7, 2018 8:53:42 PM David Villasmil <
>>>> david.villasmil.work at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't understand, if you don't make money with the service you
>>>>> provide, why would you provide it in the first place? And more important,
>>>>> why would you give out g729 encoding/decoding for free?
>>>>>
>>>>> You might be in the wrong business, if so. Unless we're missing some
>>>>> information, you should just buy the licenses and be done with this
>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018, 01:58 Brian West <brian at freeswitch.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems everyone confuses copyright with patent
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 6:49 PM Michelle Konzack <
>>>>>> linux4michelle at tamay-dogan.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmm, the only problem is, that I do not make money with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 2018-01-07 hackte Madovsky in die Tasten:
>>>>>>> > If you make money with 180 users so it's worth
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > to contribute to FreeSWITCH staff too...
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On 1/6/2018 2:38 PM, Geoff Mina wrote:
>>>>>>> >> It is quite expensive non-proprietary functionality for anything
>>>>>>> >> larger than a tiny installation.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Jan 6, 2018, at 8:34 AM, Madovsky <infos at madovsky.org
>>>>>>> >> <mailto:infos at madovsky.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>> G729 license helps FreeSWITCH core team...
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> On 1/6/2018 7:13 AM, Mirko Brankovic wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>> As far as I know g729 licence expired year ago, and I know of 2
>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>> >>>> source modules that have it implemented and working ;)
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>> On Jan 6, 2018 11:30, "Michelle Konzack"
>>>>>>> >>>> <linux4michelle at tamay-dogan.net
>>>>>>> >>>> <mailto:linux4michelle at tamay-dogan.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>     Hello *,
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>     the promoted G.729 License for 10US is only for one
>>>>>>> concurency
>>>>>>> >>>> call.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>     But what about parallel calls?
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>     I am in Estonia and we have only 300MBit LTE/4G connections
>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>>> >>>>     no DSL or similar
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>     My VoIP server is currently located in Nürnberg/Germany
>>>>>>> but will
>>>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>>> >>>>     relocated to an ISP in Tallinn.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>     However, I have 140 users of this VoIP Server and like to
>>>>>>> use a
>>>>>>> >>>> more
>>>>>>> >>>>     efficient Codec because also some of the users are on slow
>>>>>>> >>>> (=<1MBit)
>>>>>>> >>>>     Satelite connection
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>     Is it possibel, to use the G.729 Codec only for some defined
>>>>>>> >>>> users?
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>     This would mean, I need only arround a 15 user licence
>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>> >>>>     of 140.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>     Thanks in avance
>>>>>>> >>>>     Michelle Konzack
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>     Miila ITSystems @ TDNet
>>>>>>> >>>>     Estonia
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