[Freeswitch-users] FS priority
Stanislav Sinyagin
ssinyagin at gmail.com
Sun Sep 6 21:03:26 MSD 2015
I'll test and submit a patch during the week or two (if someone else
doesn't do it).
BTW, debs built from master are still more convenient than compiling from
source ))
On Sep 6, 2015 6:26 PM, "Bote Man" <bote_radio at botecomm.com> wrote:
> I agree IFF my assumptions and results are applicable to package
> installations. If you have a package installation I would prefer that you
> verify these results on such an installation since I mostly let my Master
> build do what it wants. I always build from Master, never use the packages.
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> Do we have to specify the –run runtime directory on the FS command line?
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> Do we have to specify the –temp files directory?
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> Right now the unit file for the package specifies none of those so I don’t
> know where FS would put its runtime and temp files.
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> By the way, while testing the location of runtime directory for the PID
> file I noted that FS will create the ./run directory with the proper
> permissions and owner, then write the PID file in it on its own without
> systemd doing it. This happened without specifying anything about that on
> the command line and without the tmpfiles.d entry.
>
>
>
> But since the .deb package places files in the FHS locations this would be
> necessary, so your recent ticket that adds that applies. I omitted that
> from my Confluence instructions built from Master, FYI.
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> Please let me know how to proceed.
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> Thanks.
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> Bote
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> *From:* Stanislav Sinyagin
> *Sent:* Sunday, 06 September, 2015 06:00
> *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS priority
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>
> Looks like another jira ticket is needed for Debian packaging.
>
> On Sep 6, 2015 6:16 AM, "Anthony Minessale" <anthony.minessale at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> It's because FS changes the scheduler and enables some realtime threads
> when it can. If you have multiple cpu np and rp are the same. FS always
> needs root privs to change the platform parameters and nice level etc. The
> scheduler change is not possible if the shell is an unpriveledged user nor
> are a bunch of other things unless you carefully allowed them somehow as
> root before the shell started. So basically that is all expected behavior.
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> On Saturday, September 5, 2015, Bote Man <bote_radio at botecomm.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I did not use the utility named ‘runas’ I simply labeled the column
> that way and was trying to conserve character space in the header to get it
> to fit in a reasonable space.
>
>
>
> Anyway, thanks to your post and some research I just changed my FS unit
> file to start FS as user root, but specified –u freeswitch –g freeswitch on
> the command line to FS, and changed the
> WorkingDirectory=/usr/local/freeswitch/bin (it had been set to ‘run’) and
> it’s doing the Right Thing, so that is what I will go with. I vaguely
> remember that FS can (should) start as root, then drops privileges to what
> is specified on the command line, so it looks like it is doing exactly that.
>
>
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> ‘top’ shows FS running as real and effective user ‘freeswitch’ with
> Priority=-2 and Nice=-10 so I am a happy camper.
>
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> If nobody on the FS core development team has any objection to this
> approach I will update the Confluence page for the systemd unit file for
> building from MASTER. The Debian packages have their own file locations.
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> https://freeswitch.org/confluence/display/FREESWITCH/FreeSWITCH+1.6+Video#FreeSWITCH1.6Video-systemd
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> Any security concerns doing this?
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> Thanks!
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> Bote
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> *From:* Shaun Stokes
> *Sent:* Saturday, 05 September, 2015 03:18
> *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS priority
>
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> Are you using FreeSwitch to specify the user to runas or is this being
> done by systemd?
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> In FreeSwitch you use the -u argument to specify the user and the -g
> argument to specify the group, if you do this then I assume running the
> service as root should be ok providing you've given FreeSwitch an
> alternative user and group (in our environment we use the same for user and
> group).
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> Thanks,
>
> Shaun
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Bote Man
> *Sent:* 05 September 2015 04:28
> *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS priority
>
> I'm not sure how much nice level matters compared to scheduler priority. I
> ran a series of tests to find out what Priority and Nice level are reported
> by the 'top' utility.
>
> I ran the first 6 tests by using systemd to start FreeSWITCH, 3 times as
> user root with each of the FS priority flags, then 3 times as user
> freeswitch with each of the FS flags. Then I repeated that block of tests
> from the command line, 3 flags as root, 3 flags as freeswitch. You won't
> believe what happened next!
>
> systemd starting FreeSWITCH as 'RUNAS' user with 'FLAG' command line
> priority flags to FS results in top showing priority 'PRI', nice level
> 'NICE' on a month-old install of Debian 8 on a bare metal Dell R320 server.
>
> RUNAS FLAG PRI NICE
> root -rp -2 -10
> root -np 39 19
> root -lp 39 19
>
> fs -rp -2 19
> fs -np 39 19
> fs -lp 39 19
>
> Run as root from command line
> root -rp -2 -10
> root -np 20 0
> root -lp 39 19
>
> Run as su=freeswitch from command line
> fs -rp 20 0
> fs -np 20 0
> fs -lp 39 19
>
> Most processes show Priority of 20 so I assume that is considered "normal".
>
> So it looks like the only way to get truly higher priority for a process
> is to run it as root, which I expected. Once the scheduler priority is at
> -2 (higher priority) I don't know whether the nice level even matters.
>
> For now, the systemd unit file that I posted on Confluence runs as the
> freeswitch user so even with the -rp flag to FreeSWITCH it gets niced down
> to 19 which is the lowest level available for nice. Does this matter?
>
> Is there a serious security concern running FreeSWITCH as root?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bote
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> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Bote Man <bote_radio at botecomm.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for that. I was under the impression that systemd was throwing
> FreeSWITCH into the generic scheduling group and starving it of resources
> as a result, but when I manually ran ./freeswitch as root it still showed
> the same values.
>
> Running FS manually with -np yielded pri=20 nice=0 and System Monitor
> reports priority "normal"
>
> Running FS manually with -rp yielded pri=-2 nice=-10 and System Monitor
> reports priority "very high", same results as when FS was started without
> any priority switch on the command line.
>
> BUT! When I start FS with systemd it maintains priority=-2 but nice all
> the way down to 19 which is why System Monitor reports "very low". This
> happens even with the -rp switch specified in the unit file.
>
> I don't know how scheduling priority and nice level interact on Debian,
> but it looks like I have a new research project for this weekend, assuming
> this is truly something to be concerned about. Or is it?
>
> Thanks for the tips. I will report my findings to the list if I discover
> anything substantive.
>
> Bote
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> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Shaun Stokes <
> shaun.stokes at itec-support.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Bote,
>
>
>
> I believe priority works in a similar way to metric (i.e. lower comes
> first), so -20 (most favorable scheduling) to +19 (least favorable
> scheduling).
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>
> -rp -- enable high(realtime) priority settings
>
> -lp -- enable low priority settings
>
> -np -- enable normal priority settings (system default)
>
> Source: https://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Command_line
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> Hope this helps.
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>
> Thanks,
>
> Shaun
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org [
> freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] on behalf of Bote Man [
> bote_radio at botecomm.com]
> *Sent:* 04 September 2015 15:54
> *To:* FreeSWITCH Users Help
> *Subject:* [Freeswitch-users] FS priority
>
> I’m trying to set the priority on a new FreeSWITCH installation built from
> master on Debian 8 running on bare metal. It is currently running at “very
> low” priority according to Resource Monitor in the GUI and ‘top’ reports FS
> is running at priority = -2 (that’s negative two) and nice = 19
>
> So with the way FreeSWITCH is now launched by systemd is it considered a
> service or a user application that is simply run in the background?
>
> This affects how systemd treats its control groups and priority and how I
> will go about troubleshooting this.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Bote
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