[Freeswitch-users] DID providers - any thoughts? (jan 2013)
Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
cal.leeming at simplicitymedialtd.co.uk
Thu Jan 31 04:12:43 MSK 2013
I think ideally, these are the kind of providers we want to stick with -
otherwise you end up going through a reseller of a reseller of a reseller
of a reseller.. not nice.
It's a shame their API doesn't support bulk operations, but as long as they
don't have rate limit police like Twitter, then I can live with this :)
Cal
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Andrew Cassidy <
andrew at cassidywebservices.co.uk> wrote:
> The other thing to remember is many of the UK providers use BT's IPEX
> platform, and basically bulk-break for you.
>
> The one issue I've had with Magrathea is that they don't like it when you
> make many API calls in quick succession. I once needed to set up 26,000
> numbers in bulk and they don't seem to have a better way of doing so but
> they still complained anyway.
>
>
> On 30 January 2013 13:36, BookBag <asaad2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I use flowroute. Very good provider
>> On Jan 29, 2013 5:38 PM, "Luke Milbourne" <luke.milbourne at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Cal,
>>>
>>> Have you investigated AQL?
>>>
>>> I use them currently for my DID, not on the type of scale you are
>>> talking about but I have been impressed with their services so far.
>>>
>>> Luke
>>>
>>> On 29 January 2013 20:55, <freeswitch-users-request at lists.freeswitch.org
>>> > wrote:
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>>>> 1. Re: SPA-2102 Gives 486 instead of Call Waiting (Gilad Abada)
>>>> 2. DID providers - any thoughts? (jan 2013)
>>>> (Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd])
>>>> 3. Rejecting undesired codecs in bypass media mode
>>>> (Victor Chukalovskiy)
>>>> 4. Re: DID providers - any thoughts? (jan 2013) (Avi Marcus)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Gilad Abada <ga at steadfasttelecom.com>
>>>> To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:34:47 -0500
>>>> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] SPA-2102 Gives 486 instead of Call
>>>> Waiting
>>>> I think if you turn debug and syslog on level 3 it gives more info
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my mobile device.
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Avi Marcus <avi at avimarcus.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I did, that's how I got the log in my first email...
>>>> Was I supposed to find more than that?
>>>> -Avi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Gilad Abada <ga at steadfasttelecom.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Avi,
>>>>>
>>>>> You can try to enable syslog trough the GUI and see what the spa 2102
>>>>> os actually doing. I think it's under the system tab you have syslog and
>>>>> debug server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my mobile device.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Avi Marcus <avi at avimarcus.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions on how to figure this out? I'd really appreciate it!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Avi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Avi Marcus <avi at avimarcus.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's an intersting one that seems to have no results on google or
>>>>>> in debug info:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have an SPA-2102 (firmware 5.2.10) that returns 486/Busy Here when
>>>>>> a call comes in to the active line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "call waiting" is turned on, so it should be beeping in instead...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got these logs off the SPA but it doesn't seem very helpful: (and
>>>>>> there should be more, I think)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==> /var/log/syslog <==
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>[0]<<$FreeSWITCH: 5060(1148)
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>[0]<<$FreeSWITCH: 5060(1148)
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:14 INVITE sip: 1632@$CLIENT_IP:5060 SIP/2.0#012
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:14 INVITE sip: 1632@$CLIENT_IP:5060 SIP/2.0#012
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>[0]->$FreeSWITCH: 5060(312)
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>[0]->$FreeSWITCH: 5060(312)
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>SIP/2.0 100 Trying
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>#012
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>#012
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>[0]->$FreeSWITCH: 5060(338)
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>[0]->$FreeSWITCH: 5060(338)
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>SIP/2.0 486 Busy Here
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>#012
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>#012
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:15 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>[0]<<$FreeSWITCH: 5060(334)
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:15 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>[0]<<$FreeSWITCH: 5060(334)
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:15 ACK sip: 1632@$CLIENT_IP:5060 SIP/2.0#012
>>>>>> Jan 7 14:38:15 ACK sip: 1632@$CLIENT_IP:5060 SIP/2.0#012
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw one suggestion to do a factory reset that fixed the problem,
>>>>>> but that's a bit troublesome at the moment since the client can't
>>>>>> load provisioning files (dumb network.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Avi Marcus
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]" <
>>>> cal.leeming at simplicitymedialtd.co.uk>
>>>> To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:13:54 +0000
>>>> Subject: [Freeswitch-users] DID providers - any thoughts? (jan 2013)
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I've been recently reviewing several DID providers, and looking for
>>>> some feedback.
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate this isn't totally on topic for FreeSWITCH, but over the
>>>> last few months I've found the community feedback to be invaluable - so I'm
>>>> hoping it might open up a good discussion.
>>>>
>>>> I would be really interested to hear other peoples experiences with
>>>> their DID providers, as much detail as possible.
>>>>
>>>> There are several providers we've looked at, but they are either
>>>> reselling others services, or do not deliver the service quality we are
>>>> looking for.
>>>>
>>>> The criteria I've been looking for is;
>>>>
>>>> * Able to provide either US or UK numbers
>>>> * Exposes an API that allows control of purchasing and routing
>>>> * Guarantees premium call quality, good latency, and inbound CLI.
>>>> * Does NOT operate on a market/exchange basis
>>>> * Trading as a telecoms provider for more than 5 years
>>>> * Has a reputable name within the community or industry
>>>>
>>>> So far, I have only found the following providers that meet this
>>>> criteria;
>>>>
>>>> * Hello Telecom - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered, no charges for
>>>> minutes, rental or concurrent channels. No minimum charges. Excellent call
>>>> quality/latency, no CLI problems, and almost no downtime in the last 6
>>>> months. However, they do not offer a sane purchasing API which makes
>>>> automation difficult, and interop with FS has been somewhat painful.
>>>>
>>>> * Simwood - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered. Slightly more expensive
>>>> but still very fair. Currently at inter-op stage, so can't comment further
>>>> - but they seem very good so far.
>>>>
>>>> * Voxbone - Most numbers, ITSPA registered. Extremely high minimum
>>>> spend, difficult to justify unless you already have existing traffic.
>>>>
>>>> * BT - UK numbers only (I think), ITSPA registered (of course lol)..
>>>> Over 9000 pages of inter-op and around £10k in set up fees.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>> Cal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Victor Chukalovskiy <victor.chukalovskiy at gmail.com>
>>>> To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:21:44 -0500
>>>> Subject: [Freeswitch-users] Rejecting undesired codecs in bypass media
>>>> mode
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> *Call scenario:* call comes in with undesired codec only in SDP. (e.g.
>>>> PCMA)
>>>>
>>>> In my sip profile I have:
>>>> inbound-bypass-media="true"
>>>> inbound-codec-negotiation="greedy"
>>>> inbound-codec-prefs="PCMU,G729"
>>>>
>>>> *What happens:* regardless of the codec in SDP, Freeswitch executes
>>>> dialplan and sends the call to the B-leg.
>>>>
>>>> It also happens regardless of wether I use "late" or "early" negotiation
>>>>
>>>> *What I would like to see:*
>>>> FS rejecting the call right away if SDP does not match
>>>> inbound-codec-prefs. Should not even hit the dial-plan.
>>>>
>>>> Any clue on how to achieve this?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> -Victor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Avi Marcus <avi at avimarcus.net>
>>>> To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:55:11 +0200
>>>> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] DID providers - any thoughts? (jan 2013)
>>>> Shouldn't go without mentioning ukddi.com...
>>>> It's free, since it's subsidized by incoming traffic compensation. He
>>>> claims that's more profitable than termination service is, easily allowing
>>>> him to keep the business running.
>>>> I've not seen the API, I think it has to be specially activated.
>>>>
>>>> He's very responsive to emails.
>>>>
>>>> -Avi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] <
>>>> cal.leeming at simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been recently reviewing several DID providers, and looking for
>>>>> some feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> I appreciate this isn't totally on topic for FreeSWITCH, but over the
>>>>> last few months I've found the community feedback to be invaluable - so I'm
>>>>> hoping it might open up a good discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would be really interested to hear other peoples experiences with
>>>>> their DID providers, as much detail as possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are several providers we've looked at, but they are either
>>>>> reselling others services, or do not deliver the service quality we are
>>>>> looking for.
>>>>>
>>>>> The criteria I've been looking for is;
>>>>>
>>>>> * Able to provide either US or UK numbers
>>>>> * Exposes an API that allows control of purchasing and routing
>>>>> * Guarantees premium call quality, good latency, and inbound CLI.
>>>>> * Does NOT operate on a market/exchange basis
>>>>> * Trading as a telecoms provider for more than 5 years
>>>>> * Has a reputable name within the community or industry
>>>>>
>>>>> So far, I have only found the following providers that meet this
>>>>> criteria;
>>>>>
>>>>> * Hello Telecom - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered, no charges for
>>>>> minutes, rental or concurrent channels. No minimum charges. Excellent call
>>>>> quality/latency, no CLI problems, and almost no downtime in the last 6
>>>>> months. However, they do not offer a sane purchasing API which makes
>>>>> automation difficult, and interop with FS has been somewhat painful.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Simwood - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered. Slightly more expensive
>>>>> but still very fair. Currently at inter-op stage, so can't comment further
>>>>> - but they seem very good so far.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Voxbone - Most numbers, ITSPA registered. Extremely high minimum
>>>>> spend, difficult to justify unless you already have existing traffic.
>>>>>
>>>>> * BT - UK numbers only (I think), ITSPA registered (of course lol)..
>>>>> Over 9000 pages of inter-op and around £10k in set up fees.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>
>>>>> Cal
>>>>>
>>>>>
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