UK SIP Trunk providers
Hi, Can anyone recommend any SIP trunk providers, ideally based in the UK? Thanks Richard
Hi Richard, This topic was discussed a few months back, you can read the thread here; http://markmail.org/message/xdjhmpkzd7txndji#query:+page:1+mid:ncuirf776l5hj... http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/DID-providers-any-thoughts-jan... Since my last post, our chosen UK providers are Magrathea and Simwood. This inter-op was over a period of 6 months but based on low traffic (<=500 calls a month), so others with higher throughput may wish to chime in. Magrathea - Over a period of one month, I've not had a single problematic call, routing/quality is always good, and they seem to have almost every dialing code possible for DIDs. I have not dealt with their technical staff yet, but their sales people were friendly and knowledgeable. Simwood - Over a period of two months, I had 2 call routing issues to international destinations and they are missing at least one number range (Bournemouth). However it's worth noting that Simwood were very quick to help, they identified the routing problem within 5 minutes of me reporting it, and despite being a low profit customer they treated us as a high priority. I've also spoken to numerous staff there, they always come across as friendly and, more importantly, competent. I would have no problem recommending Simwood to others. For international routing - I'm still in the process of reviewing TelServ and Flowroute, I'd like to use Voxbone but their min spend is too high for us. I cannot choose between Sim/Mag, they are both extremely good companies - use both (redundancy is a good thing anyway!) Cal On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Richard Mace <richard.mace@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Can anyone recommend any SIP trunk providers, ideally based in the UK?
Thanks
Richard
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Magrathea are pretty much the industry standard for volume. Depending on your requirements, there are many others such as SipGate and Gradwell. There are also people from at least 3 UK trunk providers in this list, including SureVoip, NumberGroup and PowerTel. On 29 October 2013 00:29, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Richard,
This topic was discussed a few months back, you can read the thread here;
http://markmail.org/message/xdjhmpkzd7txndji#query:+page:1+mid:ncuirf776l5hj...
http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/DID-providers-any-thoughts-jan...
Since my last post, our chosen UK providers are Magrathea and Simwood.
This inter-op was over a period of 6 months but based on low traffic (<=500 calls a month), so others with higher throughput may wish to chime in.
Magrathea - Over a period of one month, I've not had a single problematic call, routing/quality is always good, and they seem to have almost every dialing code possible for DIDs. I have not dealt with their technical staff yet, but their sales people were friendly and knowledgeable.
Simwood - Over a period of two months, I had 2 call routing issues to international destinations and they are missing at least one number range (Bournemouth). However it's worth noting that Simwood were very quick to help, they identified the routing problem within 5 minutes of me reporting it, and despite being a low profit customer they treated us as a high priority. I've also spoken to numerous staff there, they always come across as friendly and, more importantly, competent. I would have no problem recommending Simwood to others.
For international routing - I'm still in the process of reviewing TelServ and Flowroute, I'd like to use Voxbone but their min spend is too high for us.
I cannot choose between Sim/Mag, they are both extremely good companies - use both (redundancy is a good thing anyway!)
Cal
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Richard Mace <richard.mace@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Can anyone recommend any SIP trunk providers, ideally based in the UK?
Thanks
Richard
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Let's be clear on definitions here; BT, Kingston - Top of the food chain, only financially viable for those with lots of cash and traffic Magrathea, Simwood, Gamma - Designed for wholesale, scalable to many millions of minutes per month. SipGate, SureVoip, Gradwell, GBC - These providers are designed for consumers, only necessary if you are not running your own equipment NumberGroup, Sol4 - they are essentially a reseller aggregate, or to be more blunt, an unnecessary middleman If someone is running their own switch, why would you want to go with a consumer grade service which not only limits your CLI capabilities, but also increases complexity, affects latency and inflates call rates. Likewise, why would you go through a middleman when you could just go direct to the supplier with no minimum spend on outbound traffic? Though typically inbound does require a small min spend of around £50/month (which is tiny in comparison with VoxBone who charge a min spend of around £600/month [needs clarification]), which is really the only valid reason (that I can think of right now) to go with any of these reseller aggregates. Cal On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Andrew Cassidy < andrew@cassidywebservices.co.uk> wrote:
Magrathea are pretty much the industry standard for volume.
Depending on your requirements, there are many others such as SipGate and Gradwell. There are also people from at least 3 UK trunk providers in this list, including SureVoip, NumberGroup and PowerTel.
On 29 October 2013 00:29, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Richard,
This topic was discussed a few months back, you can read the thread here;
http://markmail.org/message/xdjhmpkzd7txndji#query:+page:1+mid:ncuirf776l5hj...
http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/DID-providers-any-thoughts-jan...
Since my last post, our chosen UK providers are Magrathea and Simwood.
This inter-op was over a period of 6 months but based on low traffic (<=500 calls a month), so others with higher throughput may wish to chime in.
Magrathea - Over a period of one month, I've not had a single problematic call, routing/quality is always good, and they seem to have almost every dialing code possible for DIDs. I have not dealt with their technical staff yet, but their sales people were friendly and knowledgeable.
Simwood - Over a period of two months, I had 2 call routing issues to international destinations and they are missing at least one number range (Bournemouth). However it's worth noting that Simwood were very quick to help, they identified the routing problem within 5 minutes of me reporting it, and despite being a low profit customer they treated us as a high priority. I've also spoken to numerous staff there, they always come across as friendly and, more importantly, competent. I would have no problem recommending Simwood to others.
For international routing - I'm still in the process of reviewing TelServ and Flowroute, I'd like to use Voxbone but their min spend is too high for us.
I cannot choose between Sim/Mag, they are both extremely good companies - use both (redundancy is a good thing anyway!)
Cal
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Richard Mace <richard.mace@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Can anyone recommend any SIP trunk providers, ideally based in the UK?
Thanks
Richard
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I think the point to be made here is that your choice should be determined by your requirements and budget. As we know neither of those, we can't give you specific recommendations. The majority of people I encounter use 'consumer' grade services, with or without their own equipment as necessary. That said these are largely small businesses. In all seriousness there's always a best tool for the job and no one service that'll meet all needs. On 29 October 2013 08:42, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Let's be clear on definitions here;
BT, Kingston - Top of the food chain, only financially viable for those with lots of cash and traffic Magrathea, Simwood, Gamma - Designed for wholesale, scalable to many millions of minutes per month. SipGate, SureVoip, Gradwell, GBC - These providers are designed for consumers, only necessary if you are not running your own equipment NumberGroup, Sol4 - they are essentially a reseller aggregate, or to be more blunt, an unnecessary middleman
If someone is running their own switch, why would you want to go with a consumer grade service which not only limits your CLI capabilities, but also increases complexity, affects latency and inflates call rates. Likewise, why would you go through a middleman when you could just go direct to the supplier with no minimum spend on outbound traffic? Though typically inbound does require a small min spend of around £50/month (which is tiny in comparison with VoxBone who charge a min spend of around £600/month [needs clarification]), which is really the only valid reason (that I can think of right now) to go with any of these reseller aggregates.
Cal
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Andrew Cassidy < andrew@cassidywebservices.co.uk> wrote:
Magrathea are pretty much the industry standard for volume.
Depending on your requirements, there are many others such as SipGate and Gradwell. There are also people from at least 3 UK trunk providers in this list, including SureVoip, NumberGroup and PowerTel.
On 29 October 2013 00:29, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Richard,
This topic was discussed a few months back, you can read the thread here;
http://markmail.org/message/xdjhmpkzd7txndji#query:+page:1+mid:ncuirf776l5hj...
http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/DID-providers-any-thoughts-jan...
Since my last post, our chosen UK providers are Magrathea and Simwood.
This inter-op was over a period of 6 months but based on low traffic (<=500 calls a month), so others with higher throughput may wish to chime in.
Magrathea - Over a period of one month, I've not had a single problematic call, routing/quality is always good, and they seem to have almost every dialing code possible for DIDs. I have not dealt with their technical staff yet, but their sales people were friendly and knowledgeable.
Simwood - Over a period of two months, I had 2 call routing issues to international destinations and they are missing at least one number range (Bournemouth). However it's worth noting that Simwood were very quick to help, they identified the routing problem within 5 minutes of me reporting it, and despite being a low profit customer they treated us as a high priority. I've also spoken to numerous staff there, they always come across as friendly and, more importantly, competent. I would have no problem recommending Simwood to others.
For international routing - I'm still in the process of reviewing TelServ and Flowroute, I'd like to use Voxbone but their min spend is too high for us.
I cannot choose between Sim/Mag, they are both extremely good companies - use both (redundancy is a good thing anyway!)
Cal
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Richard Mace <richard.mace@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Can anyone recommend any SIP trunk providers, ideally based in the UK?
Thanks
Richard
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Just curious where you guys see AQL fitting in that categorisation? I've used them in the past and they seem good. I also thought they were one of the bigger providers in the UK, but since no-one has mentioned them... On 29 October 2013 07:39, Andrew Cassidy <andrew@cassidywebservices.co.uk>wrote:
I think the point to be made here is that your choice should be determined by your requirements and budget. As we know neither of those, we can't give you specific recommendations.
The majority of people I encounter use 'consumer' grade services, with or without their own equipment as necessary. That said these are largely small businesses.
In all seriousness there's always a best tool for the job and no one service that'll meet all needs.
On 29 October 2013 08:42, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Let's be clear on definitions here;
BT, Kingston - Top of the food chain, only financially viable for those with lots of cash and traffic Magrathea, Simwood, Gamma - Designed for wholesale, scalable to many millions of minutes per month. SipGate, SureVoip, Gradwell, GBC - These providers are designed for consumers, only necessary if you are not running your own equipment NumberGroup, Sol4 - they are essentially a reseller aggregate, or to be more blunt, an unnecessary middleman
If someone is running their own switch, why would you want to go with a consumer grade service which not only limits your CLI capabilities, but also increases complexity, affects latency and inflates call rates. Likewise, why would you go through a middleman when you could just go direct to the supplier with no minimum spend on outbound traffic? Though typically inbound does require a small min spend of around £50/month (which is tiny in comparison with VoxBone who charge a min spend of around £600/month [needs clarification]), which is really the only valid reason (that I can think of right now) to go with any of these reseller aggregates.
Cal
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Andrew Cassidy < andrew@cassidywebservices.co.uk> wrote:
Magrathea are pretty much the industry standard for volume.
Depending on your requirements, there are many others such as SipGate and Gradwell. There are also people from at least 3 UK trunk providers in this list, including SureVoip, NumberGroup and PowerTel.
On 29 October 2013 00:29, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Richard,
This topic was discussed a few months back, you can read the thread here;
http://markmail.org/message/xdjhmpkzd7txndji#query:+page:1+mid:ncuirf776l5hj...
http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/DID-providers-any-thoughts-jan...
Since my last post, our chosen UK providers are Magrathea and Simwood.
This inter-op was over a period of 6 months but based on low traffic (<=500 calls a month), so others with higher throughput may wish to chime in.
Magrathea - Over a period of one month, I've not had a single problematic call, routing/quality is always good, and they seem to have almost every dialing code possible for DIDs. I have not dealt with their technical staff yet, but their sales people were friendly and knowledgeable.
Simwood - Over a period of two months, I had 2 call routing issues to international destinations and they are missing at least one number range (Bournemouth). However it's worth noting that Simwood were very quick to help, they identified the routing problem within 5 minutes of me reporting it, and despite being a low profit customer they treated us as a high priority. I've also spoken to numerous staff there, they always come across as friendly and, more importantly, competent. I would have no problem recommending Simwood to others.
For international routing - I'm still in the process of reviewing TelServ and Flowroute, I'd like to use Voxbone but their min spend is too high for us.
I cannot choose between Sim/Mag, they are both extremely good companies - use both (redundancy is a good thing anyway!)
Cal
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Richard Mace <richard.mace@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Can anyone recommend any SIP trunk providers, ideally based in the UK?
Thanks
Richard
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I would advise against AQL for wholesale services, they are just another reseller aggregate but with *significantly* higher rates (26p/min to UK orange, what?!) Their technical sales team are also difficult to work with, the majority of people I spoke to there clearly did not understand the product they were selling. Avoid. Cal On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Ben Langfeld <ben@langfeld.co.uk> wrote:
Just curious where you guys see AQL fitting in that categorisation? I've used them in the past and they seem good. I also thought they were one of the bigger providers in the UK, but since no-one has mentioned them...
On 29 October 2013 07:39, Andrew Cassidy <andrew@cassidywebservices.co.uk>wrote:
I think the point to be made here is that your choice should be determined by your requirements and budget. As we know neither of those, we can't give you specific recommendations.
The majority of people I encounter use 'consumer' grade services, with or without their own equipment as necessary. That said these are largely small businesses.
In all seriousness there's always a best tool for the job and no one service that'll meet all needs.
On 29 October 2013 08:42, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Let's be clear on definitions here;
BT, Kingston - Top of the food chain, only financially viable for those with lots of cash and traffic Magrathea, Simwood, Gamma - Designed for wholesale, scalable to many millions of minutes per month. SipGate, SureVoip, Gradwell, GBC - These providers are designed for consumers, only necessary if you are not running your own equipment NumberGroup, Sol4 - they are essentially a reseller aggregate, or to be more blunt, an unnecessary middleman
If someone is running their own switch, why would you want to go with a consumer grade service which not only limits your CLI capabilities, but also increases complexity, affects latency and inflates call rates. Likewise, why would you go through a middleman when you could just go direct to the supplier with no minimum spend on outbound traffic? Though typically inbound does require a small min spend of around £50/month (which is tiny in comparison with VoxBone who charge a min spend of around £600/month [needs clarification]), which is really the only valid reason (that I can think of right now) to go with any of these reseller aggregates.
Cal
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Andrew Cassidy < andrew@cassidywebservices.co.uk> wrote:
Magrathea are pretty much the industry standard for volume.
Depending on your requirements, there are many others such as SipGate and Gradwell. There are also people from at least 3 UK trunk providers in this list, including SureVoip, NumberGroup and PowerTel.
On 29 October 2013 00:29, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leeming@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Richard,
This topic was discussed a few months back, you can read the thread here;
http://markmail.org/message/xdjhmpkzd7txndji#query:+page:1+mid:ncuirf776l5hj...
http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/DID-providers-any-thoughts-jan...
Since my last post, our chosen UK providers are Magrathea and Simwood.
This inter-op was over a period of 6 months but based on low traffic (<=500 calls a month), so others with higher throughput may wish to chime in.
Magrathea - Over a period of one month, I've not had a single problematic call, routing/quality is always good, and they seem to have almost every dialing code possible for DIDs. I have not dealt with their technical staff yet, but their sales people were friendly and knowledgeable.
Simwood - Over a period of two months, I had 2 call routing issues to international destinations and they are missing at least one number range (Bournemouth). However it's worth noting that Simwood were very quick to help, they identified the routing problem within 5 minutes of me reporting it, and despite being a low profit customer they treated us as a high priority. I've also spoken to numerous staff there, they always come across as friendly and, more importantly, competent. I would have no problem recommending Simwood to others.
For international routing - I'm still in the process of reviewing TelServ and Flowroute, I'd like to use Voxbone but their min spend is too high for us.
I cannot choose between Sim/Mag, they are both extremely good companies - use both (redundancy is a good thing anyway!)
Cal
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Richard Mace <richard.mace@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Can anyone recommend any SIP trunk providers, ideally based in the UK?
Thanks
Richard
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Hi Cal, Gavin here. I'm the MD of SureVoIP and would like to correct some of below:
Let's be clear on definitions here;
BT, Kingston - Top of the food chain, only financially viable for those with lots of cash and traffic
Correct. The UK Telecom Incumbents. But don't forgot the each have "Retail", "Business" and "Wholesale" divisions.
Magrathea, Simwood, Gamma - Designed for wholesale, scalable to many millions of minutes per month.
Correct. They each have their own SS7 platforms connected in the UK PSTN, SIP platforms and are IP network operators (have their own AS number, members of RIPE, members of LINX, Ofcom number allocations and other Internet Exchange Points). Same applies to the companies above.
SipGate, SureVoip, Gradwell, GBC - These providers are designed for consumers, only necessary if you are not running your own equipment
These are not just for consumers. They may offer retail but are mainly for business, as SureVoIP is. When talking about consumers I would talk about Vonage etc. SureVoIP (us) have our own SIP platforms (FreeSWITCH, OpenSIPS etc.) and are IP network operators (AS199659) members of RIPE, members of LINX, Ofcom number allocation holders: https://www.linx.net/about/memberlist/letter/S We don't have hardware based SIP platforms like the level above us do (Magrathea, Simwood, Gamma) as we don't do as many minutes as them and aren't wholesale. In fact, the first two are two of our carriers as well as BT Wholesale. You can only get accounts with them if you are selling onwards to business or retail, so bear that in mind.
NumberGroup, Sol4 - they are essentially a reseller aggregate, or to be more blunt, an unnecessary middleman
Can't comment. Look at what I've described above to make your own mind up.
If someone is running their own switch, why would you want to go with a consumer grade service which not only limits your CLI capabilities, but also increases complexity, affects latency and inflates call rates. Likewise, why would you go through a middleman when you could just go direct to the supplier with no minimum spend on outbound traffic? Though typically inbound does require a small min spend of around £50/month (which is tiny in comparison with VoxBone who charge a min spend of around £600/month [needs clarification]), which is really the only valid reason (that I can think of right now) to go with any of these reseller aggregates.
You'd do this because you are not selling on the minutes. If you are a business user you can't sign up to the wholesale guys. That's the point of wholesale. Make up your own mind and look for an API :-) Thanks, Gavin. -- http://www.surevoip.co.uk
participants (5)
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Andrew Cassidy
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Ben Langfeld
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Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
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Gavin Henry
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Richard Mace