Open g729 g723 codec, any expierence
Hello : Anyone have tried to compile open codec into FW ? http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/ipp-codecs-g729-g723.1/ thanks
I would like to have this, since I live in a country where patents don't affect us. Diego On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Lee JJ <jengjr@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello :
Anyone have tried to compile open codec into FW ? http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/ipp-codecs-g729-g723.1/
thanks
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Brian West wrote:
I would watch a blanket statement like that. You would be surprised to find out how far those patents reach.
/b
On Sep 1, 2008, at 11:19 PM, Diego Viola wrote:
I would like to have this, since I live in a country where patents don't affect us.
Diego
Don't be so judgemental. He might be part of an Antarctic expedition, or spend his entire life afloat outside territorial waters. :-)
Steve
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org> wrote: spend his entire life afloat outside territorial waters. :-) anybody up for a new business opportunity? FloatSwitch global codec conversion farm ... located 22km offshore all major IXs and MAEs -- wasim h. baig | principal consultant | convergence pk | +92 300 8508070
I live in Paraguay, doesn't that only affects in the U.S? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess the patents issue is only in the U.S. Diego On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org> wrote:
Brian West wrote:
I would watch a blanket statement like that. You would be surprised to find out how far those patents reach.
/b
On Sep 1, 2008, at 11:19 PM, Diego Viola wrote:
I would like to have this, since I live in a country where patents don't affect us.
Diego
Don't be so judgemental. He might be part of an Antarctic expedition, or spend his entire life afloat outside territorial waters. :-)
Steve
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Brian West wrote:
You do realize its like 16 pages of patents.
On Sep 2, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Diego Viola wrote:
I live in Paraguay, doesn't that only affects in the U.S? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess the patents issue is only in the U.S.
IANAL but why would 16 pages of patents matter? Afaik if you don't have software patents in your country then you can use this stuff legally. Am I missing something? Regards, Patrick
Just saying you would be shocked to know how far reaching the patents are... even in a country where you think software patents don't apply. On Sep 3, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Patrick wrote:
IANAL but why would 16 pages of patents matter? Afaik if you don't have software patents in your country then you can use this stuff legally. Am I missing something?
Regards, Patrick
Brian West sip:brian@freeswitch.org
Patrick wrote:
Brian West wrote:
You do realize its like 16 pages of patents.
On Sep 2, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Diego Viola wrote:
I live in Paraguay, doesn't that only affects in the U.S? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess the patents issue is only in the U.S.
IANAL but why would 16 pages of patents matter? Afaik if you don't have software patents in your country then you can use this stuff legally. Am I missing something?
What relevance has software patents to this discussion? Steve
interesting discussion, ive always wondered about the use of the "Open Source" implementation. however I agree it is fraught with pitfalls. the real interesting one would be the ability to use the TC400B http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Bounty if I could buy that card ( about $1450 ) and run 120 channels of G729 then thats great value. that works out at about $12 per G729 codec license, which is not a whole lot more than the digium software license. AND you dont bulk down your CPU with it... which is even better !!! tell you what, I reckon this card ( and others like it if there are any ) should be the first target for G729 on freeswitch especially if its quite easy to work with that API. now to figure out how to get that PCI card into my HP blade server :P ( might need a few 1ru boxes JUST for transcoding RTP ) Jay On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org> wrote:
Patrick wrote:
Brian West wrote:
You do realize its like 16 pages of patents.
On Sep 2, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Diego Viola wrote:
I live in Paraguay, doesn't that only affects in the U.S? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess the patents issue is only in the U.S.
IANAL but why would 16 pages of patents matter? Afaik if you don't have software patents in your country then you can use this stuff legally. Am I missing something?
What relevance has software patents to this discussion?
Steve
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On Sep 3, 2008, at 7:43 PM, jay binks wrote:
interesting discussion, ive always wondered about the use of the "Open Source" implementation. however I agree it is fraught with pitfalls.
the real interesting one would be the ability to use the TC400B http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Bounty
if I could buy that card ( about $1450 ) and run 120 channels of G729 then thats great value. that works out at about $12 per G729 codec license, which is not a whole lot more than the digium software license. AND you dont bulk down your CPU with it... which is even better !!!
But with modern CPU's 120 channels isn't that much of a stretch is it?
tell you what, I reckon this card ( and others like it if there are any ) should be the first target for G729 on freeswitch especially if its quite easy to work with that API.
Not sure how easy that would be since you have to use the latest dhadi release to interface with it.
now to figure out how to get that PCI card into my HP blade server :P ( might need a few 1ru boxes JUST for transcoding RTP )
Jay
But with modern CPU's 120 channels isn't that much of a stretch is it?
Your probably right... Not sure how easy that would be since you have to use the latest dhadi
release to interface with it.
Bummer.. I just thought.. if it were as simple as tweaking the Zaptel bindings to make that card work, then it could be a simple response to those that want G729. oh well.. Im just lucky, that everything im doing is G711 at the moment. kinda not looking forward to the day when a customer insists on G729. I dont want to put any Asterisk boxes in, even if its just for transcoding. Sincerely Jay
we just have to map the ioctls and thats it. I haven't looked at how it works but if its anything like I think it is.. its not that far of a stretch. /b On Sep 3, 2008, at 8:20 PM, jay binks wrote:
But with modern CPU's 120 channels isn't that much of a stretch is it?
Your probably right...
Not sure how easy that would be since you have to use the latest dhadi release to interface with it.
Bummer..
I just thought.. if it were as simple as tweaking the Zaptel bindings to make that card work, then it could be a simple response to those that want G729.
oh well.. Im just lucky, that everything im doing is G711 at the moment. kinda not looking forward to the day when a customer insists on G729. I dont want to put any Asterisk boxes in, even if its just for transcoding.
Sincerely
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We are going to produce a method to buy g729 for FreeSWITCH in the near future. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
we just have to map the ioctls and thats it. I haven't looked at how it works but if its anything like I think it is.. its not that far of a stretch.
/b
On Sep 3, 2008, at 8:20 PM, jay binks wrote:
But with modern CPU's 120 channels isn't that much of a stretch is it?
Your probably right...
Not sure how easy that would be since you have to use the latest dhadi release to interface with it.
Bummer..
I just thought.. if it were as simple as tweaking the Zaptel bindings to make that card work, then it could be a simple response to those that want G729.
oh well.. Im just lucky, that everything im doing is G711 at the moment. kinda not looking forward to the day when a customer insists on G729. I dont want to put any Asterisk boxes in, even if its just for transcoding.
Sincerely
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On 9/4/08, Anthony Minessale <anthony.minessale@gmail.com> wrote:
We are going to produce a method to buy g729 for FreeSWITCH in the near future.
Digging up an old thread... Any update here? -- Kristian Kielhofner http://blog.krisk.org http://www.submityoursip.com http://www.astlinux.org http://www.star2star.com
we are almost there. =D On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Kristian Kielhofner < kkielhofner@star2star.com> wrote:
On 9/4/08, Anthony Minessale <anthony.minessale@gmail.com> wrote:
We are going to produce a method to buy g729 for FreeSWITCH in the near future.
Digging up an old thread... Any update here?
-- Kristian Kielhofner http://blog.krisk.org http://www.submityoursip.com http://www.astlinux.org http://www.star2star.com
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On 10/10/08, Anthony Minessale <anthony.minessale@gmail.com> wrote:
we are almost there. =D
I'm sure I have a fairly steep learning curve in front of me but this has been the only issue holding me back from some serious Freeswitch fun. It's tough for me to even justify the time experimenting unless it's a viable platform in my environment (which means the ability to transcode G729). Can I at least be a beta tester or something? Please? I'm desperate!!! -- Kristian Kielhofner http://blog.krisk.org http://www.submityoursip.com http://www.astlinux.org http://www.star2star.com
I would love to be a beta tester too! I haven't switched from Asterisk for the same reason. Cheers, Nicolas On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Michael Collins <mcollins@fcnetwork.com> wrote:
Can I at least be a beta tester or something? Please? I'm desperate!!!
Dude, you're hired! :) -MC
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Gee, me too !!!! Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions Pvt Ltd, The Enterprise Linux Company(r), Http://www.enterux.com/ On 11-Oct-08, at 4:43, "Nicolas Brenner" <nicolas@medularis.com> wrote:
I would love to be a beta tester too! I haven't switched from Asterisk for the same reason.
Cheers,
Nicolas
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Michael Collins <mcollins@fcnetwork.com
wrote:
Can I at least be a beta tester or something? Please? I'm desperate!!!
Dude, you're hired! :) -MC
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Mitul Limbani wrote: yeah yeah, mee too, guys, please!!!
Gee, me too !!!!
Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder& CEO, Enterux Solutions Pvt Ltd, The Enterprise Linux Company(r), Http://www.enterux.com/
On 11-Oct-08, at 4:43, "Nicolas Brenner"<nicolas@medularis.com> wrote:
I would love to be a beta tester too! I haven't switched from Asterisk for the same reason.
Cheers,
Nicolas
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Michael Collins<mcollins@fcnetwork.com
wrote:
Can I at least be a beta tester or something? Please? I'm desperate!!!
Dude, you're hired! :) -MC
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As there seems to be quite some interest in G.729, those interested who can commit to purchasing licenses, please update this wiki page: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Bounty#G729_Licensing_Bounty Mike On Oct 10, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Alex Vostrikov wrote:
Mitul Limbani wrote:
yeah yeah, mee too, guys, please!!!
Gee, me too !!!!
Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder& CEO, Enterux Solutions Pvt Ltd, The Enterprise Linux Company(r), Http://www.enterux.com/
On 11-Oct-08, at 4:43, "Nicolas Brenner"<nicolas@medularis.com> wrote:
I would love to be a beta tester too! I haven't switched from Asterisk for the same reason.
Cheers,
Nicolas
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Michael Collins<mcollins@fcnetwork.com
wrote:
Can I at least be a beta tester or something? Please? I'm desperate!!!
Dude, you're hired! :) -MC
Any idea when g729 patent would expire? Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder & CEO, Enterux Solutions Pvt Ltd, The Enterprise Linux Company(r), Http://www.enterux.com/ On 11-Oct-08, at 9:53, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com> wrote:
As there seems to be quite some interest in G.729, those interested who can commit to purchasing licenses, please update this wiki page:
http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Bounty#G729_Licensing_Bounty
Mike
On Oct 10, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Alex Vostrikov wrote:
Mitul Limbani wrote:
yeah yeah, mee too, guys, please!!!
Gee, me too !!!!
Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder& CEO, Enterux Solutions Pvt Ltd, The Enterprise Linux Company(r), Http://www.enterux.com/
On 11-Oct-08, at 4:43, "Nicolas Brenner"<nicolas@medularis.com> wrote:
I would love to be a beta tester too! I haven't switched from Asterisk for the same reason.
Cheers,
Nicolas
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Michael Collins<mcollins@fcnetwork.com
wrote:
Can I at least be a beta tester or something? Please? I'm desperate!!!
Dude, you're hired! :) -MC
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Michael Jerris wrote: that's right, guys! do it! WE NEED 5000 LICENSES!
As there seems to be quite some interest in G.729, those interested who can commit to purchasing licenses, please update this wiki page:
http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Bounty#G729_Licensing_Bounty
Mike
On Oct 10, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Alex Vostrikov wrote:
Mitul Limbani wrote:
yeah yeah, mee too, guys, please!!!
Gee, me too !!!!
Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder& CEO, Enterux Solutions Pvt Ltd, The Enterprise Linux Company(r), Http://www.enterux.com/
On 11-Oct-08, at 4:43, "Nicolas Brenner"<nicolas@medularis.com> wrote:
I would love to be a beta tester too! I haven't switched from Asterisk for the same reason.
Cheers,
Nicolas
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Michael Collins<mcollins@fcnetwork.com
wrote:
Can I at least be a beta tester or something? Please? I'm desperate!!!
Dude, you're hired! :) -MC
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How much is a license in dollars? Cesar Cepeda.
-----Mensaje original----- De: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch- users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] En nombre de Michael Jerris Enviado el: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:24 PM Para: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Asunto: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Open g729 g723 codec, any expierence
As there seems to be quite some interest in G.729, those interested who can commit to purchasing licenses, please update this wiki page:
http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Bounty#G729_Licensing_Bounty
Mike
On Oct 10, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Alex Vostrikov wrote:
Mitul Limbani wrote:
yeah yeah, mee too, guys, please!!!
Gee, me too !!!!
Regards, Mitul Limbani, Founder& CEO, Enterux Solutions Pvt Ltd, The Enterprise Linux Company(r), Http://www.enterux.com/
On 11-Oct-08, at 4:43, "Nicolas Brenner"<nicolas@medularis.com> wrote:
I would love to be a beta tester too! I haven't switched from Asterisk for the same reason.
Cheers,
Nicolas
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Michael Collins<mcollins@fcnetwork.com
wrote:
Can I at least be a beta tester or something? Please? I'm desperate!!!
Dude, you're hired! :) -MC
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I have developement agreement and also distribution for g729. If you guys want I can prepare a build of freeswitch with g729 provided there is enough demand. On 10/12/08, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com> wrote:
On Oct 11, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Cesar Cepeda wrote:
How much is a license in dollars?
This is not anything we have set in stone, but you can expect it to be competitive with other solutions out there.
Mike
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hemant: umm.. yes, we want -wasim On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 2:53 AM, hemant kumar <hemant.taan@gmail.com> wrote:
I have developement agreement and also distribution for g729. If you guys want I can prepare a build of freeswitch with g729 provided there is enough demand.
On 10/12/08, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com> wrote:
On Oct 11, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Cesar Cepeda wrote:
How much is a license in dollars?
This is not anything we have set in stone, but you can expect it to be competitive with other solutions out there.
Mike
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I think we can setup an irc meeting sometime next week and take it further. I am sorry to sound like I am a bit money oriented,which offcourse I am not, but these patents and royalties mess is more complicated then just paying the money. My only interest it to provide capabilty to freeswitch so that it can be used on a much larger scale and g729 still has a wide industry acceptence. This is my personal opinion, please correct me if I am wrong On 10/12/08, Wasim Baig <wasim@convergence.pk> wrote:
hemant:
umm.. yes, we want
-wasim
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 2:53 AM, hemant kumar <hemant.taan@gmail.com> wrote:
I have developement agreement and also distribution for g729. If you guys want I can prepare a build of freeswitch with g729 provided there is enough demand.
On 10/12/08, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com> wrote:
On Oct 11, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Cesar Cepeda wrote:
How much is a license in dollars?
This is not anything we have set in stone, but you can expect it to be competitive with other solutions out there.
Mike
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Hi - I'm after some alpha testers of a very alpha product. SoftIVR is something we've been putting together for a little while - it's a hosted IVR, using FreeSWITCH for its back end. A very quick rundown of what it does and how it does it: - each user can have one or more virtual IVRs; - each IVR can have a set of files (prompts), services, numbers, registered SIP devices ("extensions") and things that it registers with ("gateways") - services are written in Javascript - not executed by FreeSWITCH's mod_spidermonkey, but outside FS; the interpreter extends JS with a collection of extra functions (answer(), hangup(), play(), playtone(), record(), conference()..) to control call flow - services are linked to numbers which folk call - it has a simple script debugger (tracing, log output) which runs in the browser If you're interested, please drop me a note either on- or off-list with a quick outline of the application(s) you'd like to build. We're going to be writing documentation and tutorials over the next few days; I'll send you an invite code when there's enough of that done to allow you to implement your application. There's a brief screen capture video with commentary available from http://www.softivr.com/softivr.mov to give you a quick flavour of what it's all about. Cheers -- Dave
My company wrote a g729/g723 codec for CallWeaver last year completely independently of the Readytechnology codec. It is fully functional but was never publicly announced (although is publicly available) due to discussion on CallWeaver lists indicating it probably wouldn't be accepted. We purchased a redist license for the Intel libraries and verified with Intel that said libraries could be redistributed free as in beer. Overview This software provides G.729 and G.723.1 codecs for Callweaver based on version 5.1 of the Integrated Performance Primitives library provided by Intel. The codecs are implemented as a thin wrapper around Intel's Unified Speech Codec Interface (USC) sample for IPP. This allows codecs exposed by the USC interface to be easily adapted for use by Callweaver. The Makefile allows for either static or dynamic linking to the appropriate IPP libraries at run time to handle different architectures without recompiling. The code can be found at http://www.zettaserve.com/default.asp?catid=78 and if anyone wants to adapt it for use with FreeSwitch please feel free. I am not a coder and so have no idea how hard or easy it may be to adapt for use by FreeSwitch, however I do know that our codec is much easier to compile than the Readytechnology codec. It was developed and tested on OpenBSD 4.0 and is known to work on Linux. Of course the user is responsible for any applicable codec licensing. We do not provide binaries. Craig -----Original Message----- From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Lee JJ Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2008 11:00 AM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: [Freeswitch-users] Open g729 g723 codec, any expierence Hello : Anyone have tried to compile open codec into FW ? http://www.readytechnology.co.uk/open/ipp-codecs-g729-g723.1/ thanks _______________________________________________ Freeswitch-users mailing list Freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
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Alex Vostrikov
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Anthony Minessale
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Brian West
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Cesar Cepeda
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Craig Guy
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David Knell
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Diego Viola
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hemant kumar
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jay binks
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Kristian Kielhofner
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Lee JJ
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Michael Collins
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Michael Jerris
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Mitul Limbani
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Nicolas Brenner
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Patrick
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Steve Underwood
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Wasim Baig