Maybe it could be used to improve mod_skypopen?? http://skype-open-source.blogspot.com/2011/06/skype-protocol-reverse-enginee... François.
Since it'd allow native support while skypopen requires the official client, it'd be a big enough rewrite to probably be more of a separate module. It remains to see what the M$ reaction will be to that project. It sounds fairly easy for them to break support for it too. Even if they don't go the legal route, it's an older version of the protocol and they could just choose to block those older versions and force users to upgrade. -Steve On 3 June 2011 10:20, François Delawarde <fdelawarde@wirelessmundi.com>wrote:
Maybe it could be used to improve mod_skypopen??
http://skype-open-source.blogspot.com/2011/06/skype-protocol-reverse-enginee...
François.
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However interestingly it appears to be 1.x, 3.x and 4.x have reverse engineered. 5.x is the latest windows version. The latest Linux version (used by mod_skypopen) is 2.2.0.25. Not sure why that's not reverse engineered but if they were to block anything pre-5.x it'd break both skyopen and skype-open-source. On the more optimistic note I have seen a good argument that there are enough hardware Skype phones with Skype that they can't easily block older versions without breaking a lot of devices. -Steve On 3 June 2011 11:19, Steven Ayre <steveayre@gmail.com> wrote:
Since it'd allow native support while skypopen requires the official client, it'd be a big enough rewrite to probably be more of a separate module.
It remains to see what the M$ reaction will be to that project. It sounds fairly easy for them to break support for it too. Even if they don't go the legal route, it's an older version of the protocol and they could just choose to block those older versions and force users to upgrade.
-Steve
On 3 June 2011 10:20, François Delawarde <fdelawarde@wirelessmundi.com>wrote:
Maybe it could be used to improve mod_skypopen??
http://skype-open-source.blogspot.com/2011/06/skype-protocol-reverse-enginee...
François.
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Steven Ayre wrote:
On the more optimistic note I have seen a good argument that there are enough hardware Skype phones with Skype that they can't easily block older versions without breaking a lot of devices. If Skype decides to block older version of software, then all it needs is to furnish Skype Phone hardware manufacturers with a new code to come up with a new firmware to support new Skype version. Then, hackers will start to reversed engineer on the new version. And, the cat/mouse chase begins.
OTOH, it looks like the source was released to https://github.com/skypeopensource/skypeopensource/downloads GitHUB on 6/2/11. let's see how fast it will become a Linux compilable package/plugin/module. I won't be surprised to see a working mod_skype_re(versed engineered) soon if Anthony and/or FS developers will decide to port the source into an FS module. ----- FreeSWITCH hosted on a Seagate DockStar with OpenWRT and ONLY consumes 3 Watts of electricity. -- View this message in context: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/skype-reverse-engineered-tp643... Sent from the freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
I'm curious how MSSkype will manage the open source code and community year after year.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "mazilo" <Nabble@slickdeals.endjunk.com> To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] skype reverse engineered
Steven Ayre wrote:
On the more optimistic note I have seen a good argument that there are enough hardware Skype phones with Skype that they can't easily block older versions without breaking a lot of devices. If Skype decides to block older version of software, then all it needs is to furnish Skype Phone hardware manufacturers with a new code to come up with a new firmware to support new Skype version. Then, hackers will start to reversed engineer on the new version. And, the cat/mouse chase begins.
OTOH, it looks like the source was released to https://github.com/skypeopensource/skypeopensource/downloads GitHUB on 6/2/11. let's see how fast it will become a Linux compilable package/plugin/module. I won't be surprised to see a working mod_skype_re(versed engineered) soon if Anthony and/or FS developers will decide to port the source into an FS module.
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http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/intellectual-property/2011/06/03/skype-denounces... On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:58 PM, mazilo <Nabble@slickdeals.endjunk.com>wrote:
Steven Ayre wrote:
On the more optimistic note I have seen a good argument that there are enough hardware Skype phones with Skype that they can't easily block older versions without breaking a lot of devices. If Skype decides to block older version of software, then all it needs is to furnish Skype Phone hardware manufacturers with a new code to come up with a new firmware to support new Skype version. Then, hackers will start to reversed engineer on the new version. And, the cat/mouse chase begins.
OTOH, it looks like the source was released to https://github.com/skypeopensource/skypeopensource/downloads GitHUB on 6/2/11. let's see how fast it will become a Linux compilable package/plugin/module. I won't be surprised to see a working mod_skype_re(versed engineered) soon if Anthony and/or FS developers will decide to port the source into an FS module.
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some logical I don't understand. why is it need reverse engineering if Skype had an open source community until today ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Gopal krishnan To: FreeSWITCH Users Help Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] skype reverse engineered http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/intellectual-property/2011/06/03/skype-denounces... On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:58 PM, mazilo <Nabble@slickdeals.endjunk.com> wrote: Steven Ayre wrote: > On the more optimistic note I have seen a good argument that there are > enough hardware Skype phones with Skype that they can't easily block older > versions without breaking a lot of devices. If Skype decides to block older version of software, then all it needs is to furnish Skype Phone hardware manufacturers with a new code to come up with a new firmware to support new Skype version. Then, hackers will start to reversed engineer on the new version. And, the cat/mouse chase begins. OTOH, it looks like the source was released to https://github.com/skypeopensource/skypeopensource/downloads GitHUB on 6/2/11. let's see how fast it will become a Linux compilable package/plugin/module. I won't be surprised to see a working mod_skype_re(versed engineered) soon if Anthony and/or FS developers will decide to port the source into an FS module. ----- FreeSWITCH hosted on a Seagate DockStar with OpenWRT and ONLY consumes 3 Watts of electricity. -- View this message in context: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/skype-reverse-engineered-tp643... Sent from the freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
There's nothing open about about Skype. The protocol is entirely closed and proprietary. They offer an API to talk to the Skype client from another program running on the same machine, but that's about it. mod_skypopen works by running one or more copies of the official Skype client, creating a virtual sound card and communicating with that from FreeSWITCH. -Steve On 3 June 2011 16:02, Madovsky <infos@madovsky.org> wrote:
some logical I don't understand. why is it need reverse engineering if Skype had an open source community until today ?
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http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/intellectual-property/2011/06/03/skype-denounces...
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:58 PM, mazilo <Nabble@slickdeals.endjunk.com>wrote:
Steven Ayre wrote:
On the more optimistic note I have seen a good argument that there are enough hardware Skype phones with Skype that they can't easily block older versions without breaking a lot of devices. If Skype decides to block older version of software, then all it needs is to furnish Skype Phone hardware manufacturers with a new code to come up with a new firmware to support new Skype version. Then, hackers will start to reversed engineer on the new version. And, the cat/mouse chase begins.
OTOH, it looks like the source was released to https://github.com/skypeopensource/skypeopensource/downloads GitHUB on 6/2/11. let's see how fast it will become a Linux compilable package/plugin/module. I won't be surprised to see a working mod_skype_re(versed engineered) soon if Anthony and/or FS developers will decide to port the source into an FS module.
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tha'ts clear, not sure it will be a good future for them so.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Ayre To: FreeSWITCH Users Help Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] skype reverse engineered There's nothing open about about Skype. The protocol is entirely closed and proprietary. They offer an API to talk to the Skype client from another program running on the same machine, but that's about it. mod_skypopen works by running one or more copies of the official Skype client, creating a virtual sound card and communicating with that from FreeSWITCH. -Steve On 3 June 2011 16:02, Madovsky <infos@madovsky.org> wrote: some logical I don't understand. why is it need reverse engineering if Skype had an open source community until today ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Gopal krishnan To: FreeSWITCH Users Help Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 9:54 AMS Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] skype reverse engineered http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/intellectual-property/2011/06/03/skype-denounces... On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:58 PM, mazilo <Nabble@slickdeals.endjunk.com> wrote: Steven Ayre wrote: > On the more optimistic note I have seen a good argument that there are > enough hardware Skype phones with Skype that they can't easily block older > versions without breaking a lot of devices. If Skype decides to block older version of software, then all it needs is to furnish Skype Phone hardware manufacturers with a new code to come up with a new firmware to support new Skype version. Then, hackers will start to reversed engineer on the new version. And, the cat/mouse chase begins. OTOH, it looks like the source was released to https://github.com/skypeopensource/skypeopensource/downloads GitHUB on 6/2/11. let's see how fast it will become a Linux compilable package/plugin/module. I won't be surprised to see a working mod_skype_re(versed engineered) soon if Anthony and/or FS developers will decide to port the source into an FS module. ----- FreeSWITCH hosted on a Seagate DockStar with OpenWRT and ONLY consumes 3 Watts of electricity. -- View this message in context: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/skype-reverse-engineered-tp643... Sent from the freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
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François Delawarde
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Gopal krishnan
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Madovsky
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mazilo
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Steven Ayre