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can any1 tell me where can i find a live cd image with the basic stuff to run FS and FS with all it tools installed and WITH A GUI, something like a pbx in a flash iso image so windows users like me find it easier to get testing with FS as the support for windows SIP proxy or any SIP related tool for windows platform is just about nil so i realized FS on windows also wont make much sense coz the rest of the developers etc use linux for FS and if i simply keep waiting for FS to actually do something productive on windows platform then it might take long or forever. if any i can provide me a live CD image with just enough tools to run FS to its fullest coz till date i have been only using Voipswitch and its time i need to implement TLS or any such type of encryption to reach new markets. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/live-iso-image-with-freeswitch-tp22784622p22784622.htm... Sent from the Freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On Mar 30, 2009, at 9:33 AM, xbipin wrote:
can any1 tell me where can i find a live cd image with the basic stuff to run FS and FS with all it tools installed and WITH A GUI, something like a pbx in a flash iso image so windows users like me find it easier to get testing with FS as the support for windows SIP proxy or any SIP related tool for windows platform is just about nil so i realized FS on windows also wont make much sense coz the rest of the developers etc use linux for FS and if i simply keep waiting for FS to actually do something productive on windows platform then it might take long or forever.
Well this is a tall order... You know people ask for it.. or shall I say demand it... but nobody really steps up to help out at all on the GUI requests. FreeSWITCH on windows is equally capable minus a couple of things like TLS since nobody will actually DO the work required to make it happen. This isn't a buffet where you pull up and demand things be one way or the other... this is a community where you start helping. I would love to see more helping and less demanding!
if any i can provide me a live CD image with just enough tools to run FS to its fullest coz till date i have been only using Voipswitch and its time i need to implement TLS or any such type of encryption to reach new markets.
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hi, im really sorry if it sounded as if i was demanding, its a place where every1 helps so i did the same thing, asked if any1 knew of any such live cd image coz its been quiet some time and i havent reached anywhere with the testing of FS coz the reason being, i can test it offline at my home but that will be like a single client connecting to FS and again the issue being, i live in a country where VoIP is blocked so cant even get FS to register to a provider also. then how do i ever test it, so in reply i would say i have a dedicated server and a proper VoIP setup with loads of clients but i have been using Voipswitch on windows till date and they got a very simple form of encryption which helps me bypass blocks and do the selling as well as testing, so now if i install FS on my server then how can i still test it in my existing setup coz the TLS, as discussed, is currently not functional on the windows platform but works on linux which is like learning a new thing from scratch, not that i cant, but will take up a lot of my time to reach to a level where a normal VoIP user on linux is currently compared to a windows user like me. in this part of the world, there r many guys selling Voip etc but all they know is of voipswitch as windows is what ppl know in this region. mayb i might be the only one from the whole region mostly using and promoting open source softwares like pfsense, opensbc and many such stuff and also might be the only one who knows there r things like asterisk and freeswitch. i searched like 75 outlets to get asterisk cards and all i got for an answer is, what is asterisk. living in this region and being able to test and try open source softwares is not easy coz never 2 guys meet and end up talking something about linux, pbx, softswitches etc coz no1 has ever heard of such things other than the stuff whats running in the economy. Brian West-3 wrote:
On Mar 30, 2009, at 9:33 AM, xbipin wrote:
can any1 tell me where can i find a live cd image with the basic stuff to run FS and FS with all it tools installed and WITH A GUI, something like a pbx in a flash iso image so windows users like me find it easier to get testing with FS as the support for windows SIP proxy or any SIP related tool for windows platform is just about nil so i realized FS on windows also wont make much sense coz the rest of the developers etc use linux for FS and if i simply keep waiting for FS to actually do something productive on windows platform then it might take long or forever.
Well this is a tall order... You know people ask for it.. or shall I say demand it... but nobody really steps up to help out at all on the GUI requests.
FreeSWITCH on windows is equally capable minus a couple of things like TLS since nobody will actually DO the work required to make it happen. This isn't a buffet where you pull up and demand things be one way or the other... this is a community where you start helping. I would love to see more helping and less demanding!
if any i can provide me a live CD image with just enough tools to run FS to its fullest coz till date i have been only using Voipswitch and its time i need to implement TLS or any such type of encryption to reach new markets.
You could follow the linux how to and install CentOS and be done already.
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Here is a really good start --> http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/SBC_Setup Overall I think you're going to just have to install Linux on a box and get after it. It may be more painful in the short term ... but in the long term your life will be much better. The devs / community here are pretty incredible with their desire and efforts to help everyone (and all platforms) ... but in all reality it's a huge task. If you stick with Linux / FS everything will just work and there is a tremendous amount of resources on the web. SDR
living in this region and being able to test and try open source softwares is not easy coz never 2 guys meet and end up talking something about linux, pbx, softswitches etc coz no1 has ever heard of such things other than the stuff whats running in the economy.
Out of curiosity, what part of the world are you in? -MC
hi, i currently live in a country called UAE - united arab emirates and a city called Dubai. Regards, Bipin -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] live iso image with freeswitch From: Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org> To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Date: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:33:02 PM
living in this region and being able to test and try open source softwares is not easy coz never 2 guys meet and end up talking something about linux, pbx, softswitches etc coz no1 has ever heard of such things other than the stuff whats running in the economy.
Out of curiosity, what part of the world are you in? -MC
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That is one interesting city.... I wouldn't mind paying a visit but its a bit rich for my blood! ;) On Mar 30, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Bipin Patel wrote:
hi,
i currently live in a country called UAE - united arab emirates and a city called Dubai.
Regards, Bipin
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On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Bipin Patel <bipin@xbipin.com> wrote:
hi,
i currently live in a country called UAE - united arab emirates and a city called Dubai.
Hehe, Dubai is quite a popular place - even a number of us ignorant Americans have heard of it! :) We would love to see FreeSWITCH become more popular in Dubai since it is such an important business hub in the Arab world. Please keep checking back for updates on the subject of live CDs or ISO install images. They'll be ready sooner or later, hopefully sooner. :) -MC
Hi all, What I would like to stress is: 1) FreeSwitch is working on Windows, natively, without hacks 2) This is a huge advantage for a free software that want to be *really* popular (eg: be capable of running on an already working office machine, without dedicated hardware/expertise) 3) This is very important for people that are not "hard core", but just enthusiast, or just "wannabe". Why they have to go for a proprietary solution, maybe cracked? 4) This is very important for people/situation that just cannot afford another nmachine, or to dedicate a machine 5) Freeswitch is tested on Windows, albeit less than on *nix 6) This gap will be closing as the curve of adoption go further up 7) The efforts toward a GUI are proceeding, and in a multiplatform way, so they'll be working on Windows too I'm a *nix guy like you all, but let's bring closer to us, and us closer to, the vast majority of people/situations in the world. Especially making mind at the fact that the big effort, building FS multiplatform since the beginning, has been YET done :-) ! Ah, Sincerely, Giovanni Maruzzelli ========================================= www.celliax.org via Pierlombardo 9, 20135 Milano Italy gmaruzz at celliax dot org Cell : +39-347-2665618 Fax : +39-02-87390039 2009/3/30 Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org>:
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Bipin Patel <bipin@xbipin.com> wrote:
hi,
i currently live in a country called UAE - united arab emirates and a city called Dubai.
Hehe, Dubai is quite a popular place - even a number of us ignorant Americans have heard of it! :) We would love to see FreeSWITCH become more popular in Dubai since it is such an important business hub in the Arab world. Please keep checking back for updates on the subject of live CDs or ISO install images. They'll be ready sooner or later, hopefully sooner. :)
-MC
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eh, how are poeple doing VoIP over there, given use of it outside the UAE is "officially" outlawed by the TRA ? I've heard Etisalat is pretty strict with making sure it's blocked going outside the country via a L7 packet inspection device to drop SIP. ~Gabe Bipin Patel wrote:
hi,
i currently live in a country called UAE - united arab emirates and a city called Dubai.
Regards, Bipin
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living in this region and being able to test and try open source softwares is not easy coz never 2 guys meet and end up talking something about linux, pbx, softswitches etc coz no1 has ever heard of such things other than the stuff whats running in the economy.
Out of curiosity, what part of the world are you in? -MC
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Really hard to inspect packets when they run on port 443 and are encrypted :P /b On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Gabriel Kuri wrote:
eh, how are poeple doing VoIP over there, given use of it outside the UAE is "officially" outlawed by the TRA ? I've heard Etisalat is pretty strict with making sure it's blocked going outside the country via a L7 packet inspection device to drop SIP.
~Gabe
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Are you saying they should configure SIP TLS to run on port 443? :) 2009/3/30 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
Really hard to inspect packets when they run on port 443 and are encrypted :P /b
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no one would do that! On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Kristian Kielhofner <kristian.kielhofner@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you saying they should configure SIP TLS to run on port 443? :)
2009/3/30 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
Really hard to inspect packets when they run on port 443 and are encrypted :P /b
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You sure could to get around some oppression! :P /b On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Giovanni Maruzzelli wrote:
no one would do that!
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Kristian Kielhofner <kristian.kielhofner@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you saying they should configure SIP TLS to run on port 443? :)
2009/3/30 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
Really hard to inspect packets when they run on port 443 and are encrypted :P /b
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;-) On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
You sure could to get around some oppression! :P
/b
On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Giovanni Maruzzelli wrote:
no one would do that!
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Kristian Kielhofner <kristian.kielhofner@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you saying they should configure SIP TLS to run on port 443? :)
2009/3/30 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
Really hard to inspect packets when they run on port 443 and are encrypted :P /b
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hi, i think this thread has got a bit too much of attention but in all directions, bytheway sorry for that double posting but i think its something to do with nabble as i get a mail saying ur post is rejected so i resend and then i find both the posts get accepted. UAE is very strict in terms of allowing VoIP, they block skype and any sort of voip available but come to see it, they use all the latest gadgets to block advanced stuff but its basic stuff that bypasses it thats y guys like me end up selling voip and any1 dealing in UAE will only tell u one thing, its a million dollar market for voip. simple technic to bypass is, use any port other than the standard SIP ports and in the SIP packet, if the header says SIP or something like that, change it to SI_P or S_IP or whatever u like as the header and ur through the block. known methods to bypass r openvpn but they find out and simply block the port, XOR or CBCOM as said by grandstream, voipswitch's voiptunnel and just about anything that doesnt say anything about SIP or RTP in the packet header or description or whatever it may be. bytheway that astlinux is for embedded systems etc right? i have a ALIX board already running pfsense, im looking for a normal linux image for a workstation but just enough tools to run freeswitch, have the gnome or K desktop environment and later on when the web GUI is developed then simply the web GUI. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/live-iso-image-with-freeswitch-tp22784622p22798341.htm... Sent from the Freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Even better run OpenVPN on port 53 :P /b On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
Are you saying they should configure SIP TLS to run on port 443? :)
2009/3/30 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
Really hard to inspect packets when they run on port 443 and are encrypted :P /b
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yeah, obviously they'd have to enable TLS, but my question is more in terms of trying to use the mainstream providers outside the country, particularly for call termination/origination, which don't support TLS. ~Gabe Brian West wrote:
Really hard to inspect packets when they run on port 443 and are encrypted :P
/b
On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Gabriel Kuri wrote:
eh, how are poeple doing VoIP over there, given use of it outside the UAE is "officially" outlawed by the TRA ? I've heard Etisalat is pretty strict with making sure it's blocked going outside the country via a L7 packet inspection device to drop SIP.
~Gabe
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The AstLinux ISO with FreeSWITCH is a live cd. http://mirror.astlinux.org/freeswitch/ This one is a little old but I could easily compile a new one... 2009/3/30 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
On Mar 30, 2009, at 9:33 AM, xbipin wrote:
can any1 tell me where can i find a live cd image with the basic stuff to run FS and FS with all it tools installed and WITH A GUI, something like a pbx in a flash iso image so windows users like me find it easier to get testing with FS as the support for windows SIP proxy or any SIP related tool for windows platform is just about nil so i realized FS on windows also wont make much sense coz the rest of the developers etc use linux for FS and if i simply keep waiting for FS to actually do something productive on windows platform then it might take long or forever.
Well this is a tall order... You know people ask for it.. or shall I say demand it... but nobody really steps up to help out at all on the GUI requests. FreeSWITCH on windows is equally capable minus a couple of things like TLS since nobody will actually DO the work required to make it happen. This isn't a buffet where you pull up and demand things be one way or the other... this is a community where you start helping. I would love to see more helping and less demanding!
if any i can provide me a live CD image with just enough tools to run FS to its fullest coz till date i have been only using Voipswitch and its time i need to implement TLS or any such type of encryption to reach new markets.
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Yes Kristian, please! On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Kristian Kielhofner <kristian.kielhofner@gmail.com> wrote:
The AstLinux ISO with FreeSWITCH is a live cd.
http://mirror.astlinux.org/freeswitch/
This one is a little old but I could easily compile a new one...
2009/3/30 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
On Mar 30, 2009, at 9:33 AM, xbipin wrote:
can any1 tell me where can i find a live cd image with the basic stuff to run FS and FS with all it tools installed and WITH A GUI, something like a pbx in a flash iso image so windows users like me find it easier to get testing with FS as the support for windows SIP proxy or any SIP related tool for windows platform is just about nil so i realized FS on windows also wont make much sense coz the rest of the developers etc use linux for FS and if i simply keep waiting for FS to actually do something productive on windows platform then it might take long or forever.
Well this is a tall order... You know people ask for it.. or shall I say demand it... but nobody really steps up to help out at all on the GUI requests. FreeSWITCH on windows is equally capable minus a couple of things like TLS since nobody will actually DO the work required to make it happen. This isn't a buffet where you pull up and demand things be one way or the other... this is a community where you start helping. I would love to see more helping and less demanding!
if any i can provide me a live CD image with just enough tools to run FS to its fullest coz till date i have been only using Voipswitch and its time i need to implement TLS or any such type of encryption to reach new markets.
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Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
This isn't a buffet where you pull up and demand things be one way or the other... this is a community where you start helping. I would love to see more helping and less demanding!
So would I. I regularly scan the mailing list looking for questions to answer, but many of them relate to scenarios of which I have had no experience, or features that I haven't had any reason to use. I am worried that the questions are answered by the same people much of the time, which in the long run will be bad for the project as the community grows, i.e., more technical support work for the same people (who are mostly the core developers as well) is not a sustainable proposition. How do other large projects handle this? Does anyone have any positive suggestions to offer that would encourage more contributions?
I am a Yate user and I can tell their mailing list suffer the same problem. My solution? I often ask for help but, as a personal policy, I always write an article or add to an existing one on the project wiki explaining and documenting what people explained to me. This creates a triple value: 1. I have stuff explained 2. other people can find this explanation just googling around 3. I don't have to mantain a separate documentation for myself, I just keep referring to (google and) the project wiki (when I don't exactly remember things I sometimes end reading the wiki and saying "oh, I wrote this!") I suggest, in the end, a kind of "ok I'll give you help but you write this stuff in a piece of documentation" policy. I got the name, too: "The Wiki Tax" ;) Regards, Raffaele On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:28, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net> wrote:
Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
This isn't a buffet where you pull up and demand things be one way or the other... this is a community where you start helping. I would love to see more helping and less demanding!
So would I.
I regularly scan the mailing list looking for questions to answer, but many of them relate to scenarios of which I have had no experience, or features that I haven't had any reason to use.
I am worried that the questions are answered by the same people much of the time, which in the long run will be bad for the project as the community grows, i.e., more technical support work for the same people (who are mostly the core developers as well) is not a sustainable proposition.
How do other large projects handle this?
Does anyone have any positive suggestions to offer that would encourage more contributions?
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2009/3/31 Raffaele P. Guidi <raffaele.p.guidi@gmail.com>
I am a Yate user and I can tell their mailing list suffer the same problem. My solution? I often ask for help but, as a personal policy, I always write an article or add to an existing one on the project wiki explaining and documenting what people explained to me. This creates a triple value:
1. I have stuff explained 2. other people can find this explanation just googling around 3. I don't have to mantain a separate documentation for myself, I just keep referring to (google and) the project wiki (when I don't exactly remember things I sometimes end reading the wiki and saying "oh, I wrote this!")
I suggest, in the end, a kind of "ok I'll give you help but you write this stuff in a piece of documentation" policy. I got the name, too: "The Wiki Tax" ;)
I like it... "The Wiki Tax" -MC
Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:
I like it... "The Wiki Tax"
It's an excellent suggestion. As an aside, would it be possible for the wiki administrator to modify the configuration so that there is a means of subscribing without having to deal with a captcha? For people who can't see the screen, this is a real barrier to participation.
On Mar 31, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Jason White wrote:
It's an excellent suggestion.
As an aside, would it be possible for the wiki administrator to modify the configuration so that there is a means of subscribing without having to deal with a captcha?
Not sure we can do that but I suspect we could flag it in such a way where some users can edit without it... I totally understand the need! ;)
For people who can't see the screen, this is a real barrier to participatio
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There is none yet available. If you have patience, I suspect that one will be out in the next weeks, tough. Watch the website and the mailing list for announcement. Sincerely, Giovanni Maruzzelli ========================================= www.celliax.org via Pierlombardo 9, 20135 Milano Italy gmaruzz at celliax dot org Cell : +39-347-2665618 Fax : +39-02-87390039 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:33 PM, xbipin <bipin@xbipin.com> wrote:
can any1 tell me where can i find a live cd image with the basic stuff to run FS and FS with all it tools installed and WITH A GUI, something like a pbx in a flash iso image so windows users like me find it easier to get testing with FS as the support for windows SIP proxy or any SIP related tool for windows platform is just about nil so i realized FS on windows also wont make much sense coz the rest of the developers etc use linux for FS and if i simply keep waiting for FS to actually do something productive on windows platform then it might take long or forever.
if any i can provide me a live CD image with just enough tools to run FS to its fullest coz till date i have been only using Voipswitch and its time i need to implement TLS or any such type of encryption to reach new markets. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/live-iso-image-with-freeswitch-tp22784622p22784622.htm... Sent from the Freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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On Mar 30, 2009, at 10:33 AM, xbipin wrote:
can any1 tell me where can i find a live cd image with the basic stuff to run FS and FS with all it tools installed and WITH A GUI, something like a pbx in a flash iso image so windows users like me find it easier to get testing with FS as the support for windows SIP proxy or any SIP related tool for windows platform is just about nil so i realized FS on windows also wont make much sense coz the rest of the developers etc use linux for FS and if i simply keep waiting for FS to actually do something productive on windows platform then it might take long or forever.
There is not currently a fully working gui or a live cd image. I think your comments about FreeSWITCH on windows are not correct.
if any i can provide me a live CD image with just enough tools to run FS to its fullest coz till date i have been only using Voipswitch and its time i need to implement TLS or any such type of encryption to reach new markets.
There is a live cd in the works, I am sure it will be announced here when it is ready. Mike
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Bipin Patel
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Brian West
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Gabriel Kuri
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Giovanni Maruzzelli
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Jason White
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Kristian Kielhofner
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Michael Collins
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Michael Jerris
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Raffaele P. Guidi
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Shelby Ramsey
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