On Sunday 10 August 2008 22:51:25 Brian West wrote:

I don't like forums. It's basically the same thing as the mailing list. I see no solid reason to have them unless I'm missing something.

I like forums better than e-mail. It's more userfriendly. (to me, (IMHO)) Google groups is a good way to go. :-) Henk

I prefer email, except I like to sometimes be able to search Forums. I think your proposal is a good compromise. Plus it makes the comments on here searchable via a regular search engine (could be a good, or a bad thing) -----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian@freeswitch.org] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 1:55 PM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Can we have a forum Oh btw I have talked about using google groups which offers both in one package.... What does everyone thing about some sort of compromise like that? /b On Aug 10, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Lee JJ wrote:

Dear Sirs :

Can we have a forum like phpbb or punbb .

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FWIW I agree with Darren. Bkw's suggestion is a reasonable compromise. I'm willing to give it a try. -MC Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2008, at 2:20 PM, "Darren Schreiber" <d@d-man.org> wrote:

I prefer email, except I like to sometimes be able to search Forums. I think your proposal is a good compromise. Plus it makes the comments on here searchable via a regular search engine (could be a good, or a bad thing)

-----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian@freeswitch.org] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 1:55 PM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Can we have a forum

Oh btw I have talked about using google groups which offers both in one package.... What does everyone thing about some sort of compromise like that?

/b

On Aug 10, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Lee JJ wrote:

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Dear Sirs :

Can we have a forum like phpbb or punbb .

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I don't get it - wouldn't the stuff on the forums also be accessible via list format? - confused -----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian@freeswitch.org] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 5:32 PM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Cc: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Can we have a forum The only worry about forums is that it splits support resources between the two. Any thoughts? /b Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2008, at 6:45 PM, Michael S Collins <msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:

FWIW I agree with Darren. Bkw's suggestion is a reasonable compromise. I'm willing to give it a try.

-MC

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2008, at 2:20 PM, "Darren Schreiber" <d@d-man.org> wrote:

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I prefer email, except I like to sometimes be able to search Forums. I think your proposal is a good compromise. Plus it makes the comments on here searchable via a regular search engine (could be a good, or a bad thing)

-----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian@freeswitch.org] Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 1:55 PM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Can we have a forum

Oh btw I have talked about using google groups which offers both in one package.... What does everyone thing about some sort of compromise like that?

/b

On Aug 10, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Lee JJ wrote:

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Dear Sirs :

Can we have a forum like phpbb or punbb .

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Hello, I've created a doublenat profile and the users are normally registered. When I try to cal PSTN the phone answer but the parts cannot hear each other. The firewall is disabled. Any clues ? Please check below thanks Duan freeswitch@maui> 2008-08-25 10:23:26 [NOTICE] switch_channel.c:534 switch_channel_set_name() New Channel sofia/doublenat/1000@voipclic.com:5090 [b67119fe-c344-4a4f-9496-d9e1f31174bf] 2008-08-25 10:23:26 [INFO] mod_dialplan_xml.c:222 dialplan_hunt() Processing Cliconnect->011555133349905@default 2008-08-25 10:23:26 [NOTICE] switch_channel.c:534 switch_channel_set_name() New Channel sofia/external/011555133349905 [9c023b8a-204a-4128-b3f3-76788f9246bf] 2008-08-25 10:23:28 [NOTICE] switch_channel.c:1406 switch_channel_perform_mark_pre_answered() Ring-Ready sofia/external/011555133349905! 2008-08-25 10:23:28 [NOTICE] sofia_glue.c:2010 sofia_glue_tech_media() Pre-Answer sofia/external/011555133349905! 2008-08-25 10:23:28 [INFO] mod_sofia.c:1072 sofia_receive_message() Asked to send early media by sofia/doublenat/1000@voipclic.com:5090 2008-08-25 10:23:28 [INFO] mod_sofia.c:1113 sofia_receive_message() Ring SDP: v=0 o=FreeSWITCH 1219656570 1219656571 IN IP4 24.67.78.200 s=FreeSWITCH c=IN IP4 24.67.78.200 t=0 0 a=sendrecv m=audio 28438 RTP/AVP 0 101 13 a=rtpmap:0 G711U/8000 a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000 a=fmtp:101 0-16 a=rtpmap:13 CN/8000 a=ptime:20 2008-08-25 10:23:28 [NOTICE] switch_channel.c:1406 switch_channel_perform_mark_pre_answered() Ring-Ready sofia/doublenat/1000@voipclic.com:5090! 2008-08-25 10:23:28 [NOTICE] mod_sofia.c:1116 sofia_receive_message() Pre-Answer sofia/doublenat/1000@voipclic.com:5090! 2008-08-25 10:23:37 [NOTICE] sofia.c:2439 sofia_handle_sip_i_state() Channel [sofia/external/011555133349905] has been answered 2008-08-25 10:23:37 [NOTICE] sofia.c:2443 sofia_handle_sip_i_state() Channel [sofia/doublenat/1000@voipclic.com:5090] has been answered <profile name="doublenat"> <gateways> <X-PRE-PROCESS cmd="include" data="doublenat/*.xml"/> </gateways> <settings> <param name="debug" value="0"/> <param name="sip-trace" value="no"/> <param name="rfc2833-pt" value="101"/> <param name="sip-port" value="5090"/> <param name="dialplan" value="XML"/> <param name="context" value="default"/> <param name="dtmf-duration" value="100"/> <param name="codec-prefs" value="$${outbound_codec_prefs}"/> <param name="use-rtp-timer" value="true"/> <param name="hold-music" value="$${hold_music}"/> <param name="rtp-timer-name" value="soft"/> <param name="manage-presence" value="false"/> <param name="aggressive-nat-detection" value="true"/> <param name="apply-nat-acl" value="rfc1918"/> <param name="inbound-codec-negotiation" value="generous"/> <param name="nonce-ttl" value="60"/> <param name="auth-calls" value="false"/> <param name="rtp-timeout-sec" value="1800"/> <param name="rtp-ip" value="$${local_ip_v4}"/> <param name="sip-ip" value="$${local_ip_v4}"/> <param name="ext-rtp-ip" value="$${external_rtp_ip}"/> <param name="ext-sip-ip" value="$${external_sip_ip}"/> <param name="force-register-domain" value="$${domain}"/> <param name="rtp-timeout-sec" value="300"/> <param name="rtp-hold-timeout-sec" value="1800"/> </settings> </profile>

Yes, I am port forwardind, and if I configure the phone with the IP address of the FS box instead of the domain , it works. Thanks Duan

-----Original Message----- From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Brian West Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 11:04 AM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] No sound

Did you also setup port forwarding or add the FreeSWITCH ip to the DMZ?

/b

On Aug 25, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Cliconnect wrote:

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Hello,

I've created a doublenat profile and the users are normally registered.

When I try to cal PSTN the phone answer but the parts cannot hear each other. The firewall is disabled.

Any clues ?

Please check below

thanks

Duan

Brian West sip:brian@freeswitch.org

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If auth-calls=true its secure. /b On Aug 25, 2008, at 2:09 PM, Cliconnect wrote:

I set the FS IP addr box to DMZ and it is now working. Is this not and insecure installation ? How to secure it ? Any alternatives?

Thanks

Duan

Brian West sip:brian@freeswitch.org

Your security policy isn't something we can comment on. You need to have a firewall to block everything you don't want the world to access. Just like with anything else. /b On Aug 25, 2008, at 2:24 PM, Cliconnect wrote:

I am wondering if I am not exposing the full box to the internet .

Duan

Brian West sip:brian@freeswitch.org

Just opening them isn't all you have to do.. you need to make sure they are pointed at the FS box behind the nat... Or better... toss NAT in the trash where it belongs. Move FS to a public IP ;) /b On Aug 25, 2008, at 2:48 PM, Cliconnect wrote:

Agree.

But I have iptables set with the ports as described in the wiki http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Getting_Started_Guide and it doesn't work. If I set DMZ to open it works, so I am wondering if there are any other ports that I have to open in the firewall.

Duan.

Brian West sip:brian@freeswitch.org

You can secure a box on a public IP very easily. The reason nat is hell is SIP. His scenario would be simpler without NAT involved. I have personally been pushing ipv6 which if you have that setup internal-ipv6 profile comes up and just works along side the ipv4 profile. The bottom line is if you want a secure machine.. unplug it.. pack it up into a box and put it in the closet. /b On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Ken Livingston wrote:

Sitting a machine on a public IP is just asking for trouble since there are people out there who look for boxes which they can try to hack into. Securing the box just makes them want to try harder. Also, not everyone has a static public IP which they can use in this way.

Brian West sip:brian@freeswitch.org

Dream on getting ipv6 from your provider. The best you can do right now is get a tunnel and set it up. Which is what I do. On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Cliconnect wrote:

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Move FS to a public IP ;)

I believe you are talking about IPV6. Where can I find information about how to do that? Do I have to talk to my internet provider ? Or can I do it myself ?

Duan

Brian West sip:brian@freeswitch.org

switch.conf.xml is the file that defines this range. /b On Aug 25, 2008, at 5:29 PM, Cliconnect wrote:

Does anybody know how can I narrow this range ? Or to discover exactly what ports I have to open ?

That would limit the total number of calls you can have up at once... before you get an error. /b On Aug 25, 2008, at 5:44 PM, Cliconnect wrote:

Thank you,

are there any performance issues or any other problem that you are aware of when setting this to, say 16384-16394 ? What kind of implications for doing that? Duan

Brian West wrote:

The only worry about forums is that it splits support resources between the two. Any thoughts?

Yeah, I have a thought. Would anyone who thinks forums are a good idea care to name one that actually works, isn't a war zone, and yet functions without truly massive full time moderation? Steve

A few weeks ago the voip-info dude emailed me letting me know he made this one if we want to use it. http://www.voip-info.org/boards/index.php?b=6 *shrug* we are already almost forgetting about it but you are welcome to try and wake it up. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:59 AM, Jonas Gauffin <jonas.gauffin@gmail.com>wrote:

Why? Do you actually think that a FreeSWITCH forum would become a warzone? Isn't the userbase a bit too grown up for that? Google groups sounds like an excellent compromise.

Theres a google group for google groups: http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Groups-Guide

And here is a guy that wrote an own importer:

http://groups.google.com/group/pyrodesktop/browse_thread/thread/3536c6d41609... maybe you could "borrow" it?

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org> wrote:

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Brian West wrote:

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The only worry about forums is that it splits support resources between the two. Any thoughts?

Yeah, I have a thought. Would anyone who thinks forums are a good idea care to name one that actually works, isn't a war zone, and yet functions without truly massive full time moderation?

Steve

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I prefer a forum as well and google groups would work On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Ben Holtsclaw < benholtsclaw@averyschools.net> wrote:

Personally, I also prefer some sort of bulletin board / message board based discussion. Google Groups is a great idea. To me, a straight up mailman mailing list just seems old school. I agree with Darren in that something more easily searchable would be a big plus.

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On 8/10/2008 at 4:54 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote: Oh btw I have talked about using google groups which offers both in one package.... What does everyone thing about some sort of compromise like that?

/b

On Aug 10, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Lee JJ wrote:

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Dear Sirs :

Can we have a forum like phpbb or punbb .

thanks _______________________________________________

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-- Jeremy K. Truax

I am coming in a little late on this conversation but you can have both with keeping the existing mailman system. I added freeswitch-users to Nabble groups back in March. The same thing can be done to freeswitch-dev and we might be able to import the even older freeswitch-users data. For those not familiar Nabble ( http://www.nabble.com ) allows anyone to create a web forum based on an existing mailing list. After you signup you can input your existing mailing list auth info and when you post to the freeswitch-users forum it sends it to the mailing list and keeps track of the posting status. Here is a link to the freeswitch list: http://www.nabble.com/Freeswitch-users-f32209.html This is a works for me solution that might appease everyone. Brian S/bsnipes On Sunday 10 August 2008 6:49:32 pm Ilan Perez wrote:

I am in with the forum.

For whatever reason people don't like them.

Voip-info.org is working use it and people will start asking more questions on it and then it will be more popular etc..

My 2 cents

Ilan Perez

From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Ben Holtsclaw Sent: 11 August 2008 07:36 To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Can we have a forum

Personally, I also prefer some sort of bulletin board / message board based discussion. Google Groups is a great idea. To me, a straight up mailman mailing list just seems old school. I agree with Darren in that something more easily searchable would be a big plus.

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On 8/10/2008 at 4:54 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:

Oh btw I have talked about using google groups which offers both in one package.... What does everyone thing about some sort of compromise like that?

/b

On Aug 10, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Lee JJ wrote:

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Dear Sirs :

Can we have a forum like phpbb or punbb .

thanks _______________________________________________

Whoops, I guess it shows my handle instead of my name though... I'll have to go change that. -----Original Message----- From: RdFltErr [mailto:d@d-man.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:56 AM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Can we have a forum Well if you're reading this, this solution does appear to work. And is a win-win. I would recommend it. The interface on the web side is certainly friendly and easy-to-use. and then bkw doesn't have to actually do any work. Two thumbs up from me - Darren bsnipes wrote:

I am coming in a little late on this conversation but you can have both with keeping the existing mailman system. I added freeswitch-users to Nabble groups back in March. The same thing can be done to freeswitch-dev and we might be able to import the even older freeswitch-users data.

For those not familiar Nabble ( http://www.nabble.com ) allows anyone to create a web forum based on an existing mailing list. After you signup you can input your existing mailing list auth info and when you post to the freeswitch-users forum it sends it to the mailing list and keeps track of the posting status.

Here is a link to the freeswitch list: http://www.nabble.com/Freeswitch-users-f32209.html

This is a works for me solution that might appease everyone.

Brian S/bsnipes

On Sunday 10 August 2008 6:49:32 pm Ilan Perez wrote:

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I am in with the forum.

For whatever reason people don't like them.

Voip-info.org is working use it and people will start asking more questions on it and then it will be more popular etc..

My 2 cents

Ilan Perez

From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Ben Holtsclaw Sent: 11 August 2008 07:36 To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Can we have a forum

Personally, I also prefer some sort of bulletin board / message board based discussion. Google Groups is a great idea. To me, a straight up mailman mailing list just seems old school. I agree with Darren in that something more easily searchable would be a big plus.

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On 8/10/2008 at 4:54 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:

Oh btw I have talked about using google groups which offers both in one package.... What does everyone thing about some sort of compromise like that?

/b

On Aug 10, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Lee JJ wrote:

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Dear Sirs :

Can we have a forum like phpbb or punbb .

thanks _______________________________________________

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Now lets figure out how to stuff the archives in to nabble :P /b On Aug 12, 2008, at 9:05 AM, bsnipes wrote:

Replying back from Nabble :-)

Darren Schreiber wrote:

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Well if you're reading this, this solution does appear to work. And is a win-win.

I would recommend it. The interface on the web side is certainly friendly and easy-to-use.

and then bkw doesn't have to actually do any work.

Two thumbs up from me

- Darren

bsnipes wrote:

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I am coming in a little late on this conversation but you can have both with keeping the existing mailman system. I added freeswitch-users to Nabble groups back in March. The same thing can be done to freeswitch- dev and we might be able to import the even older freeswitch-users data.

For those not familiar Nabble ( http://www.nabble.com ) allows anyone to create a web forum based on an existing mailing list. After you signup you can input your existing mailing list auth info and when you post to the freeswitch-users forum it sends it to the mailing list and keeps track of the posting status.

Here is a link to the freeswitch list: http://www.nabble.com/Freeswitch-users-f32209.html

This is a works for me solution that might appease everyone.

Brian S/bsnipes

On Sunday 10 August 2008 6:49:32 pm Ilan Perez wrote:

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I am in with the forum.

For whatever reason people don't like them.

Voip-info.org is working use it and people will start asking more questions on it and then it will be more popular etc..

My 2 cents

Ilan Perez

From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Ben Holtsclaw Sent: 11 August 2008 07:36 To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Can we have a forum

Personally, I also prefer some sort of bulletin board / message board based discussion. Google Groups is a great idea. To me, a straight up mailman mailing list just seems old school. I agree with Darren in that something more easily searchable would be a big plus.

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> On 8/10/2008 at 4:54 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> > wrote:

Oh btw I have talked about using google groups which offers both in one package.... What does everyone thing about some sort of compromise like that?

/b

On Aug 10, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Lee JJ wrote:

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Dear Sirs :

Can we have a forum like phpbb or punbb .

thanks _______________________________________________

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