Hello, If I wanted a bridged call to a gateway to use inband DTMF for incoming recognition and outgoing generation I'm unclear on what to do because the wiki clearly states[1] not to use the "start_dtmf" and "start_dtmf_generate" together for cause of loops. Wouldn't it be technically possible to generate DTMF only on the outbound leg and recognize DTMF only on the inbound leg without interference? I assume I'm not understanding something correctly here - could somebody elaborate? The end goal for me is to detect the absense of "telephone-event" rtpmap and enable inband DTMF from a gateway. Thanks! - Jesse [1] http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Misc._Dialplan_Tools_start_dtmf