On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:

Quick note make sure you're 100% 64 bit.. if you need help with that I can show you how on CentOS 5.2

My hardware Node is running 64 bit Centos 5.2, with OpenVZ's kernel: 2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2 #1 SMP Tue Jan 13 11:38:36 MSK 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux I think the VE I've built is too, but uname is a bit cryptic: 2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2 #1 SMP Tue Jan 13 11:38:36 MSK 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux I can easily change it if FS will run better. Nik

/b

On Feb 11, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Nik Martin wrote:

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If any one needs a FreeSWITCH box with a public, static IP, I can provide them for you at a reasonable cost. I'm building a Virtualization platform for FreeSWITCH hosting, and have the first node complete. These are OpenVZ Virtual Engines with Centos 5.2, a full build environment, and the latest FreeSWITCH trunk. You get 1 static IP, no NAT, 256 mb ram, and 8 gb disk space, with 1 Megabit of bandwidth. Great for VOIP service providers, backup switch, testing, etc. You can contact me directly if you are interested.

Nik

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Also be sure to test it right. I had a mediatemple VPS (they use Virtuozzo I think, the paid version of OpenVZ) and FS would not work right, I had multiple problems, then I switched to a real server and all of that went away. FS would compile and run ok, but then calls wouldn't work or sound wouldn't go through... I never investigated what was the real problem, but switching made the difference. Best regards and good luck! Nicolas On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Ken Rice <krice@freeswitch.org> wrote:

Be sure to make the Virt nodes 64bit too... FS works 100% better w/ 64bit!

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From: Nik Martin <freeswitch@servercorps.com> Reply-To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:47:23 -0600 To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH VPSs

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:

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Quick note make sure you're 100% 64 bit.. if you need help with that I can show you how on CentOS 5.2

My hardware Node is running 64 bit Centos 5.2, with OpenVZ's kernel: 2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2 #1 SMP Tue Jan 13 11:38:36 MSK 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I think the VE I've built is too, but uname is a bit cryptic: 2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2 #1 SMP Tue Jan 13 11:38:36 MSK 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

I can easily change it if FS will run better.

Nik

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/b

On Feb 11, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Nik Martin wrote:

...

If any one needs a FreeSWITCH box with a public, static IP, I can provide them for you at a reasonable cost. I'm building a Virtualization platform for FreeSWITCH hosting, and have the first node complete. These are OpenVZ Virtual Engines with Centos 5.2, a full build environment, and the latest FreeSWITCH trunk. You get 1 static IP, no NAT, 256 mb ram, and 8 gb disk space, with 1 Megabit of bandwidth. Great for VOIP service providers, backup switch, testing, etc. You can contact me directly if you are interested.

Nik

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I've had a VE in (light) production for about 2 weeks, with no issues so far. I'm going to build a pure 64 bit VE container though, and will run in that for a while too. Brian, you sid you have a readme on that? On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Nicolas Brenner <nicolas@medularis.com> wrote:

Also be sure to test it right. I had a mediatemple VPS (they use Virtuozzo I think, the paid version of OpenVZ) and FS would not work right, I had multiple problems, then I switched to a real server and all of that went away. FS would compile and run ok, but then calls wouldn't work or sound wouldn't go through... I never investigated what was the real problem, but switching made the difference.

Best regards and good luck!

Nicolas

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Ken Rice <krice@freeswitch.org> wrote:

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Be sure to make the Virt nodes 64bit too... FS works 100% better w/ 64bit!

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From: Nik Martin <freeswitch@servercorps.com> Reply-To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:47:23 -0600 To: <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH VPSs

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:

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Quick note make sure you're 100% 64 bit.. if you need help with that I can show you how on CentOS 5.2

My hardware Node is running 64 bit Centos 5.2, with OpenVZ's kernel: 2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2 #1 SMP Tue Jan 13 11:38:36 MSK 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I think the VE I've built is too, but uname is a bit cryptic: 2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2 #1 SMP Tue Jan 13 11:38:36 MSK 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

I can easily change it if FS will run better.

Nik

...

/b

On Feb 11, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Nik Martin wrote:

...

If any one needs a FreeSWITCH box with a public, static IP, I can provide them for you at a reasonable cost. I'm building a Virtualization platform for FreeSWITCH hosting, and have the first node complete. These are OpenVZ Virtual Engines with Centos 5.2, a full build environment, and the latest FreeSWITCH trunk. You get 1 static IP, no NAT, 256 mb ram, and 8 gb disk space, with 1 Megabit of bandwidth. Great for VOIP service providers, backup switch, testing, etc. You can contact me directly if you are interested.

Nik

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Great, thanks! Nik On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:

http://wiki.openvz.org/Install_OpenVZ_on_a_x86_64_system_Centos-Fedora and http://linux.carreira.com.pt/ovzutils/setx86_64-0.3.tar.gz

Will set it up for 64bit containers and patch everything to work correctly...

/b

On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:03 PM, Nik Martin wrote:

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I've had a VE in (light) production for about 2 weeks, with no issues so far. I'm going to build a pure 64 bit VE container though, and will run in that for a while too. Brian, you sid you have a readme on that?

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Hello Brian / Everyone, Like Nik and Nicolas, I created a openvz box to test things in a 'near production' environment. The box does only take 'test' calls, ie it never saw more that a few calls at a time. The design was 100% openser/opensips/kamailio but I since replaced the pstn gateways with FS and it has been working perfectly and I am not looking back. I am now planning to use freeswitch as the registrar/voicemail/media servers to only keep openser as a proxy inbound proxy (as it is possible to program it to assign a RTP proxies topologically near the caller and you can use it to fix some really broken sip packets - like LLU operators cheap DSL routers badly NAT fixing the contact header). Following this thread I am wondering if I should/could expect some issues with my setup which is 32 bits or if your comments are only related to the performance/behaviour of FS once under load (in which case I need not to worry). voip-master:~# uname -a Linux voip-master 2.6.18-ovz-028stab053.5-smp #1 SMP Sat Mar 1 12:19:31 CET 2008 i686 GNU/Linux voip-master:~# vzlist VEID NPROC STATUS IP_ADDR HOSTNAME 1001 24 running A.B.C.A proxy1.sip (openser phone outbound proxy - accept REGISTER - range locked) 1002 24 running A.B.C.B in1.sip (openser incoming calls from the net - enum, no REGISTER - open) 1003 19 running A.B.C.C out1.sip (openser outgoing calls to the net - enum - to be FS) 1004 4 running A.B.C.D rtp1.nat (rtpproxy nat) 1005 3 running A.B.C.E media1 (was sems for voicemail/media) 1006 29 running A.B.C.F database1 1107 23 running A.B.C.G registrar1.sip (openser) 1108 26 running A.B.C.H registrar2.sip (FS) 1109 8 running A.B.C.I ns1(auth DNS for the tested zone with ENUM info) 1110 8 running A.B.C.J internal1.cache (cache with internal ENUM routing) 1111 8 running A.B.C.K external1.cache (normal DNS cache) 1112 21 running A.B.C.L pstn-out-1 (FS gateway out to pstn) 1113 21 running A.B.C.M pstn-in-1 (FS gateway in from pstn) voip-master:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model model : 4 model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz model : 4 model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz voip-master:~# free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 2023 1902 120 0 431 1009 -/+ buffers/cache: 460 1562 Swap: 2588 3 2585 yep, memory is short :p) Regards, Thomas On 11 Feb 2009, at 22:54, Brian West wrote:

Your VE must be 64bit also.

http://wiki.openvz.org/Install_OpenVZ_on_a_x86_64_system_Centos-Fedora

If you need the set util listed on that page let me know I have a copy of it.

/b

On Feb 11, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Nik Martin wrote:

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I think the VE I've built is too, but uname is a bit cryptic: 2.6.18-92.1.18.el5.028stab060.2 #1 SMP Tue Jan 13 11:38:36 MSK 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

I can easily change it if FS will run better.

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You can run a small SOHO operation on 256 megs /b On Feb 11, 2009, at 6:08 PM, EdPimentl wrote:

256 MB Ram ..... is this correct?... Does any VoIP provider to use this? -E

Actually you can if you don't overload the machine like most VPS providers do... The advantage with OpenVZ in this case is that you can migrate the running FreeSWITCH instance between hardware nodes and not drop calls at this size. /b On Feb 11, 2009, at 6:24 PM, EdPimentl wrote:

Soho,,, yes of course... Voip (soho)Service Provider.... not convinced is possible to provide reliable QoS. My .02 cents -E

My goal is obviously not to provide carrier grade VOIP switch service, but a platform for sandbox testing of configurations, SOHO VOIP Switches, development of FS addons, backup switch capability, etc. Doing this stuff at home behind NAT and a consumer grade router is one reason Brian, Anthony, Mike, et al. are half crazy. I run my company's phone switch in a 32 bit OpenVZ VE with 256 Mb ram, and have no issues. When I goof around trying to transcode between 8 and 16 bit codecs and whatnot, sure it gets tight, but FS on an idle system keeps 23 mb of of ram resident, and rarely if ever hits a 256 mb bean counter (limit). Also, these limits are not hard, I just know what my hardware has, and am trying to offer as much value as I can for what I have in the systems. 128 Gb of ECC ram and Quad/Quad Core zeons are still pretty pricey! Nik On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:

Actually you can if you don't overload the machine like most VPS providers do... The advantage with OpenVZ in this case is that you can migrate the running FreeSWITCH instance between hardware nodes and not drop calls at this size.

/b

On Feb 11, 2009, at 6:24 PM, EdPimentl wrote:

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Soho,,, yes of course... Voip (soho)Service Provider.... not convinced is possible to provide reliable QoS. My .02 cents -E

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I didn't mean to touch a nerve there, I think you mis-interpreted 100% of my original post. You may also have me confused with some other Nik, as I contribute as much or more than I request . There is a nother Nik on here that are probably referring to. I am nikko from #freeswitch. I have made many edits and contributions to the wiki, patches and verified bug reports submitted to Jira. See my other responses inline. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Anthony Minessale <anthony.minessale@gmail.com> wrote:

cool,

However.... you say...

"but a platform for sandbox testing of configurations, SOHO VOIP Switches, development of FS addons, backup switch capability, etc. Doing this stuff at home behind NAT and a consumer grade router is one reason Brian, Anthony, Mike, et al. are half crazy. "

First of all, you have no idea on what platform and where we do our development. If you only saw how many terminals to random servers spanning the globe we have open...... You have the NAT part right, if you knew the hours it took from behind NAT to get all the code right for SIP interop or even had to deal with half the bullshit it takes to get SIP working, you'd be in the madhouse so don't you dare try using us as an ad slogan.

I was adressing all the support hours you and others waste trying to help people get FS running on their home servers behind NAT, when they should be testing in an environment that more closely matches what their production one will be.

Secondly, we are not half crazy, we are completely crazy and most of it comes from spending all day on this list tending to your never-ending threads while trying to help the other people in the community who actually give something back.

If you want to use our list to advertise this service maybe you should find a way to contribute to the project rather than constantly asking for help in 5 separate emails in one day followed by another thread trying to sell something.

Sorry, you are mistaking me with another Nik. I'm nikko from #freeswitch, and contribute PLENTY.

A reasonable cost would be FREE just like everything else around here. I'm just trying to cover costs, and suport a single NOC engineer, and get more people to adopt FreeSWITCH. If people like Paige and others that come and go had a reasonable environment to test and configure in, they would not be saying crap like "this works in asterisk, blah blah blah".

Again, sorry to have upset you, but we had an email conversation an few days ago, and you and Brian were cool with my plans.

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Nik Martin <freeswitch@servercorps.com> wrote:

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My goal is obviously not to provide carrier grade VOIP switch service, but a platform for sandbox testing of configurations, SOHO VOIP Switches, development of FS addons, backup switch capability, etc. Doing this stuff at home behind NAT and a consumer grade router is one reason Brian, Anthony, Mike, et al. are half crazy. I run my company's phone switch in a 32 bit OpenVZ VE with 256 Mb ram, and have no issues. When I goof around trying to transcode between 8 and 16 bit codecs and whatnot, sure it gets tight, but FS on an idle system keeps 23 mb of of ram resident, and rarely if ever hits a 256 mb bean counter (limit).

Also, these limits are not hard, I just know what my hardware has, and am trying to offer as much value as I can for what I have in the systems. 128 Gb of ECC ram and Quad/Quad Core zeons are still pretty pricey!

Nik

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:

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Actually you can if you don't overload the machine like most VPS providers do... The advantage with OpenVZ in this case is that you can migrate the running FreeSWITCH instance between hardware nodes and not drop calls at this size.

/b

On Feb 11, 2009, at 6:24 PM, EdPimentl wrote:

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Soho,,, yes of course... Voip (soho)Service Provider.... not convinced is possible to provide reliable QoS. My .02 cents -E

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ding ding ding .. yep! "file /usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch" will also confirm /b On Feb 11, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Henry Huang wrote:

Brian:

I am also running my freeswitch on my own openVZ containers. Just how do you verify if the freeswitch is compiled as 64bit? I would assume if I compile it under a 64bit container, I would automatically get a 64bit freeswitch right?

If you run in your shell: file /usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch as Brian suggested it will return something like what I got below: /usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped He didn't want you to start freeswitch but instead pass the path of the binary to the file command which will tell information about most files. -- W

Thinak you, William and Brian I got it now, I didn't know file was a command before because it didn't come with my CentOS installation. Now I have installed the file package and able to see the file info. Thanks again On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:

Well when I do this:

root@taz [Thu Feb 12 02:20 PM] /usr/src/freeswitch.trunk <13>:file /usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch /usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped

It should clearly tell you. run the "file" command on it.

/b

On Feb 12, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Henry Huang wrote:

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I run /usr/local/freeswitch/bin/freeswitch but I don't see a place where it says it's 32bit or 64bit. at the end of the initial script, I do see a version statement though. FreeSWITCH Version 1.0.trunk (exported) Started. Is there other ways to check if it's 32bit or 64bit?

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