Looking for some good/cheap desktop phones
Hi, I am looking for a vendor for some (3-5) desktop voip phones. Any suggestions? Christian
Have a look at Yealink (Skypemate) and Fanvill 2010/2/5 Christain Jensen <christian@officepools.com>:
Hi,
I am looking for a vendor for some (3-5) desktop voip phones. Any suggestions?
Christian
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And all of those are awful phones. They don't even make good paper weights. You can't have good and cheap in the same sentence when talking about VoIP phones. You have to take your pick between quality (good) and price (cheap) you can't have both at once. /b On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Тимур Валишев wrote:
Have a look at Yealink (Skypemate) and Fanvill
Sure, those phones do not deliver superior usability, but they at least give the best sound among budget models. 2010/2/5 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
And all of those are awful phones. They don't even make good paper weights.
You can't have good and cheap in the same sentence when talking about VoIP phones. You have to take your pick between quality (good) and price (cheap) you can't have both at once.
/b
On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Тимур Валишев wrote:
Have a look at Yealink (Skypemate) and Fanvill
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Some notes from a grumpy old luddite: I have one of the Yealink USB desk speakerphones, and I don't think you can get a better usability and audio quality to price ratio anywhere on the market. And it just worked. The Aastra 6757i (also on my somewhat cluttered desk) cost more than ten times as much, was a PITA to set up (its UPnP sporadically crashed my WiFi router which was entertaining until I worked out what was going on and turned it off), has a configuration interface that would send Steve Jobs out hunting those responsible with an elephant gun were it an Apple product and, once it was finally configured and working, gave me really no more usable functionality on the deskphone than the el cheapo one above. The cordless handset's nice to have, though. --Dave
Sure, those phones do not deliver superior usability, but they at least give the best sound among budget models.
2010/2/5 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
And all of those are awful phones. They don't even make good paper weights.
You can't have good and cheap in the same sentence when talking about VoIP phones. You have to take your pick between quality (good) and price (cheap) you can't have both at once.
/b
On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Тимур Валишев wrote:
Have a look at Yealink (Skypemate) and Fanvill
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From my experience Polycom and SNOM are expensive but give you what you need. Polycom is more intutive to the users but more cumbersome for the manager to deploy; SNOM is somewhat less intuitive to the user but everything can be set via the WEB interface.
If you talk about 4-5 phones, then probably SNOM is the choice. It also depends about the specific functions you want to use. I our specific environment (high use of BLF and shared lines) Polycom wins because it handles these functions just as the user expects. I did not try Aastra so cannot testify. We did test Yealink, Thomson, Asterphone, SipTip and maybe others I forgot. Cisco also seems good but Cisco does not supply the required socumentation to make them fully working. Regards, __Yehavi: 2010/2/5 Тимур Валишев <tim@novion.ru>
Sure, those phones do not deliver superior usability, but they at least give the best sound among budget models.
2010/2/5 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
And all of those are awful phones. They don't even make good paper weights.
You can't have good and cheap in the same sentence when talking about VoIP phones. You have to take your pick between quality (good) and price (cheap) you can't have both at once.
/b
On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Тимур Валишев wrote:
Have a look at Yealink (Skypemate) and Fanvill
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Atcom AT-620 ( http://www.atcom.cn/AT620.html#~tab-small_midsized_large_enterprises<http://www.atcom.cn/AT620.html#%7Etab-small_midsized_large_enterprises>) is quite ok and cheap (~30$)... also we have been talking to Atcom to add a sort of auto-provissioning (dhcp/http) and this is going to happen next week. T. 2010/2/5 Yehavi Bourvine <yehavi.bourvine@gmail.com>
From my experience Polycom and SNOM are expensive but give you what you need. Polycom is more intutive to the users but more cumbersome for the manager to deploy; SNOM is somewhat less intuitive to the user but everything can be set via the WEB interface.
If you talk about 4-5 phones, then probably SNOM is the choice. It also depends about the specific functions you want to use. I our specific environment (high use of BLF and shared lines) Polycom wins because it handles these functions just as the user expects.
I did not try Aastra so cannot testify. We did test Yealink, Thomson, Asterphone, SipTip and maybe others I forgot. Cisco also seems good but Cisco does not supply the required socumentation to make them fully working.
Regards, __Yehavi:
2010/2/5 Тимур Валишев <tim@novion.ru>
Sure, those phones do not deliver superior usability, but they at
least give the best sound among budget models.
2010/2/5 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
And all of those are awful phones. They don't even make good paper weights.
You can't have good and cheap in the same sentence when talking about VoIP phones. You have to take your pick between quality (good) and price (cheap) you can't have both at once.
/b
On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Тимур Валишев wrote:
Have a look at Yealink (Skypemate) and Fanvill
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Sigh... When is someone actually going to build an open platform voip hardware phone... Its just a linux box that happens to be shaped like a phone, with a touch screen, 48kHz sound card... and possibly video too. /b PS: Most of those eastern made phones are crap. On Feb 5, 2010, at 7:21 AM, Tihomir Culjaga wrote:
Atcom AT-620 (http://www.atcom.cn/AT620.html#~tab-small_midsized_large_enterprises) is quite ok and cheap (~30$)... also we have been talking to Atcom to add a sort of auto-provissioning (dhcp/http) and this is going to happen next week.
T.
Hi Brian, This is a start: http://www.digitmat.com/ - you need to follow some links, but it's open source. --Dave
Sigh... When is someone actually going to build an open platform voip hardware phone... Its just a linux box that happens to be shaped like a phone, with a touch screen, 48kHz sound card... and possibly video too.
/b PS: Most of those eastern made phones are crap.
On Feb 5, 2010, at 7:21 AM, Tihomir Culjaga wrote:
Atcom AT-620 (http://www.atcom.cn/AT620.html#~tab-small_midsized_large_enterprises) is quite ok and cheap (~30$)... also we have been talking to Atcom to add a sort of auto-provissioning (dhcp/http) and this is going to happen next week.
T.
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impressive! This really looks nice: http://www.digitmat.com/res.html i'm tempted to five it a shot :) T. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 4:31 PM, David Knell <dave@3c.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Brian,
This is a start: http://www.digitmat.com/ - you need to follow some links, but it's open source.
--Dave
Sigh... When is someone actually going to build an open platform voip hardware phone... Its just a linux box that happens to be shaped like a phone, with a touch screen, 48kHz sound card... and possibly video too.
/b PS: Most of those eastern made phones are crap.
On Feb 5, 2010, at 7:21 AM, Tihomir Culjaga wrote:
Atcom AT-620 (http://www.atcom.cn/AT620.html#~tab-small_midsized_large_enterprises<http://www.atcom.cn/AT620.html#%7Etab-small_midsized_large_enterprises>) is quite ok and cheap (~30$)... also we have been talking to Atcom to add a sort of auto-provissioning (dhcp/http) and this is going to happen next week.
T.
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On 02/05/2010 11:31 PM, David Knell wrote:
Hi Brian,
This is a start: http://www.digitmat.com/ - you need to follow some links, but it's open source.
--Dave
Those people have a troubled history. They were the people behind many of the early cheap, but less than stellar, VoIP phones, with a chip that isn't made any more - the PA1688. They seem to have regrouped, and have a newer chip. I wonder if they have got their act together this time.
Sigh... When is someone actually going to build an open platform voip hardware phone... Its just a linux box that happens to be shaped like a phone, with a touch screen, 48kHz sound card... and possibly video too.
/b PS: Most of those eastern made phones are crap.
On Feb 5, 2010, at 7:21 AM, Tihomir Culjaga wrote:
Atcom AT-620 (http://www.atcom.cn/AT620.html#~tab-small_midsized_large_enterprises) is quite ok and cheap (~30$)... also we have been talking to Atcom to add a sort of auto-provissioning (dhcp/http) and this is going to happen next week.
T.
ATCOM are amenable to the idea of supplying hardware for other people to put their own software on. Some of their phones use Infineon chip sets, and I think those are running software based on the Infineon Linux reference platform. All it takes is a few good people with the commitment to actually do something. I expect there are other Chinese makers who would be delighted to supply bare hardware to people, and a lot of the cheaper current Chinese phones have very similar Infineon based designs.
Steve
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:13:29 -0600, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Sigh... When is someone actually going to build an open platform voip hardware phone
I guess David Rowe is the person who could pull this off http://www.rowetel.com/blog/?page_id=2
I just picked up old model Polycoms. You can get the IP301's for ~$60-70 new and the IP501s for ~$100 new. They don't have some of the fancier features of the new Polycoms, but they carry the same quality and configurability(with the exception of NAT). -Adam From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Yehavi Bourvine Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 6:07 AM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Looking for some good/cheap desktop phones
From my experience Polycom and SNOM are expensive but give you what you need. Polycom is more intutive to the users but more cumbersome for the manager to deploy; SNOM is somewhat less intuitive to the user but everything can be set via the WEB interface.
If you talk about 4-5 phones, then probably SNOM is the choice. It also depends about the specific functions you want to use. I our specific environment (high use of BLF and shared lines) Polycom wins because it handles these functions just as the user expects. I did not try Aastra so cannot testify. We did test Yealink, Thomson, Asterphone, SipTip and maybe others I forgot. Cisco also seems good but Cisco does not supply the required socumentation to make them fully working. Regards, __Yehavi: 2010/2/5 Тимур Валишев <tim@novion.ru> Sure, those phones do not deliver superior usability, but they at least give the best sound among budget models. 2010/2/5 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
And all of those are awful phones. They don't even make good paper weights.
You can't have good and cheap in the same sentence when talking about VoIP phones. You have to take your pick between quality (good) and price (cheap) you can't have both at once.
/b
On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Тимур Валишев wrote:
Have a look at Yealink (Skypemate) and Fanvill
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Also be aware they are EOL so no new firmware for them. The 301 also is not backlit which can be a pain depending on environment. 2010/2/5 Adam Ford <lists@redbonez.net>
I just picked up old model Polycoms. You can get the IP301's for ~$60-70 new and the IP501s for ~$100 new. They don't have some of the fancier features of the new Polycoms, but they carry the same quality and configurability(with the exception of NAT).
-Adam
*From:* freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] *On Behalf Of *Yehavi Bourvine *Sent:* Friday, February 05, 2010 6:07 AM *To:* freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] Looking for some good/cheap desktop phones
From my experience Polycom and SNOM are expensive but give you what you need. Polycom is more intutive to the users but more cumbersome for the manager to deploy; SNOM is somewhat less intuitive to the user but everything can be set via the WEB interface.
If you talk about 4-5 phones, then probably SNOM is the choice. It also depends about the specific functions you want to use. I our specific environment (high use of BLF and shared lines) Polycom wins because it handles these functions just as the user expects.
I did not try Aastra so cannot testify. We did test Yealink, Thomson, Asterphone, SipTip and maybe others I forgot. Cisco also seems good but Cisco does not supply the required socumentation to make them fully working.
Regards, __Yehavi:
2010/2/5 Тимур Валишев <tim@novion.ru>
Sure, those phones do not deliver superior usability, but they at least give the best sound among budget models.
2010/2/5 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
And all of those are awful phones. They don't even make good paper weights.
You can't have good and cheap in the same sentence when talking about VoIP phones. You have to take your pick between quality (good) and price (cheap) you can't have both at once.
/b
On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Тимур Валишев wrote:
Have a look at Yealink (Skypemate) and Fanvill
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The response on this thread has been great! I wonder if there should be a link off the FreeSwitch site for vendors for these phones.... hint hint.
From what I have been hearing here and elsewhere, the preference is Polycom, Cisco, Grandstream, Aastra in that order.
Does anyone have a URL for where I could buy the units without crazy stupid shipping costs? VoipSupply quoted me ~$60 for a shipping a single phone to Vancouver, Canada, Yick! I looked on EBay but there isn't anything I could consider a steal. Did I hear that someone was putting FS into a phone or something like that? Cluecon and the secure sip guy was talking about this I think. Christian
On Sat, Feb 06, Christian Jensen wrote:
The response on this thread has been great!
I wonder if there should be a link off the FreeSwitch site for vendors for these phones.... hint hint.
From what I have been hearing here and elsewhere, the preference is Polycom, Cisco, Grandstream, Aastra in that order.
Hmmm... That's not the impression that I got at all. From what I picked up on this thread it would look more like polycom snom aastra cisco grandstream I'm sure others can speak to how Cisco doesn't do presence right. They are harder to provision then Snoms and Polycoms and in my opinion don't sound as good either. To me they sound dull and fuzzy on transmit. I've heard about four different versions of 7940/7960. The Snom 3x0 series have suffered in the speaker phone department until version 7 firmware. Version 8 betas have sounded even better yet. Make sure that if your going to be using headsets with Snoms that you ground the phone to something. This can be done by either having a shielded network cable attached to a grounded switch or computer, or order them with the grounded power adaptor. They give you the not so grounded adaptor by default. Finding shielded ethernet can be kind of tricky but it is nice to have. Polycom speech quality is my favorite if you can handle the ringy under water sounds of the background noise especially on speaker. It sounds like there's a fish tank running near by if there's any white noise. I believe this to be the case because the way they split the audio up in to many bands to process it. Maybe less steep filters would help. It's hard to believe how many people just don't care about call quality. It starts with a good sounding phone that doesn't echo or hum. I'd like to hope that we are doing our part to help the world sound a little better all the time. --FC
I would put Aastra before a snom, but then again Aastra always wants a reboot! On 06/02/2010, Frank Carmickle <frank@carmickle.com> wrote:
On Sat, Feb 06, Christian Jensen wrote:
The response on this thread has been great!
I wonder if there should be a link off the FreeSwitch site for vendors for these phones.... hint hint.
From what I have been hearing here and elsewhere, the preference is Polycom, Cisco, Grandstream, Aastra in that order.
Hmmm... That's not the impression that I got at all. From what I picked up on this thread it would look more like
polycom snom aastra cisco grandstream
I'm sure others can speak to how Cisco doesn't do presence right. They are harder to provision then Snoms and Polycoms and in my opinion don't sound as good either. To me they sound dull and fuzzy on transmit. I've heard about four different versions of 7940/7960.
The Snom 3x0 series have suffered in the speaker phone department until version 7 firmware. Version 8 betas have sounded even better yet. Make sure that if your going to be using headsets with Snoms that you ground the phone to something. This can be done by either having a shielded network cable attached to a grounded switch or computer, or order them with the grounded power adaptor. They give you the not so grounded adaptor by default. Finding shielded ethernet can be kind of tricky but it is nice to have.
Polycom speech quality is my favorite if you can handle the ringy under water sounds of the background noise especially on speaker. It sounds like there's a fish tank running near by if there's any white noise. I believe this to be the case because the way they split the audio up in to many bands to process it. Maybe less steep filters would help.
It's hard to believe how many people just don't care about call quality. It starts with a good sounding phone that doesn't echo or hum. I'd like to hope that we are doing our part to help the world sound a little better all the time.
--FC
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On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Frank Carmickle <frank@carmickle.com> wrote:
On Sat, Feb 06, Christian Jensen wrote:
The response on this thread has been great!
I wonder if there should be a link off the FreeSwitch site for vendors for these phones.... hint hint.
From what I have been hearing here and elsewhere, the preference is Polycom, Cisco, Grandstream, Aastra in that order.
Hmmm... That's not the impression that I got at all. From what I picked up on this thread it would look more like
polycom snom aastra cisco grandstream
Try Avaya 9600 SIP it is really great but it costs :) It's always the same story ... there is not cheap and good ... it just depends of what you can be satisfied for..
Where did you get these cheap phones? *From:* freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] *On Behalf Of *Adam Ford *Sent:* Friday, February 05, 2010 11:21 AM *To:* freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] Looking for some good/cheap desktop phones I just picked up old model Polycoms. You can get the IP301’s for ~$60-70 new and the IP501s for ~$100 new. They don’t have some of the fancier features of the new Polycoms, but they carry the same quality and configurability(with the exception of NAT). -Adam *From:* freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] *On Behalf Of *Yehavi Bourvine *Sent:* Friday, February 05, 2010 6:07 AM *To:* freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] Looking for some good/cheap desktop phones
From my experience Polycom and SNOM are expensive but give you what you need. Polycom is more intutive to the users but more cumbersome for the manager to deploy; SNOM is somewhat less intuitive to the user but everything can be set via the WEB interface.
If you talk about 4-5 phones, then probably SNOM is the choice. It also depends about the specific functions you want to use. I our specific environment (high use of BLF and shared lines) Polycom wins because it handles these functions just as the user expects. I did not try Aastra so cannot testify. We did test Yealink, Thomson, Asterphone, SipTip and maybe others I forgot. Cisco also seems good but Cisco does not supply the required socumentation to make them fully working. Regards, __Yehavi: 2010/2/5 Тимур Валишев <tim@novion.ru> Sure, those phones do not deliver superior usability, but they at least give the best sound among budget models. 2010/2/5 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
And all of those are awful phones. They don't even make good paper weights.
You can't have good and cheap in the same sentence when talking about VoIP phones. You have to take your pick between quality (good) and price (cheap) you can't have both at once.
/b
On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Тимур Валишев wrote:
Have a look at Yealink (Skypemate) and Fanvill
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hi try linksys SPA901 Le 04/02/2010 23:08, Christain Jensen a écrit :
Hi,
I am looking for a vendor for some (3-5) desktop voip phones. Any suggestions?
Christian
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On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 14:08:56 -0800, Christain Jensen <christian@officepools.com> wrote:
I am looking for a vendor for some (3-5) desktop voip phones. Any suggestions?
Based on positive feedback from VoIP forums, I bought the DECT Siemens A580IP a couple of weeks ago for about 70 (sales tax excluded). Don't know how well it compares to higher-end solutions, but it's been working fine so far once I was told how to solve some compatibility issue to get it working with Eyebeam/XLite.
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