FSClient Release - A FreeSWITCH SIP Client for Windows in .NET
In prep for tomorrows conference I am happy to release FSClient. I would like to thank DRK and especially jlenk for their continued support and help on this project. jlenk created the installer, fixed code, and certainly helped bring it along quite a bit faster! FSClient is a windows SIP client: Most features of any standard sip client multiple calls at once transfer, holding, speakerphone, DND multiple SIP accounts advanced headset support (caller id, buttons, etc) for jabra and plantronics out of the box (with plugin support for easily adding others) basic contact book support (with a sample XML contact book plugin provided) All codecs (minus commercial g729 support) that freeswitch supports Give it a shot and let us know about any issues you run into, overall it was decently tested for many months but some of the rapid changes as of late means there may be some larger bugs that crept in. I will also be on the conference call tomorrow and can answer questions there. And so to download the binaries: http://files.freeswitch.org/windows/installer/x86/FSClient.zip There will be a readme in the install dir on usage. The source code is available on the contrib git repo mitchcapper/FSClient. As for building from source you will need to do a few things to trunk currently. In the source folder you need to move mod_portaudio.c to the freeswitch\src\mod\endpoints\mod_portaudio folder ( http://jira.freeswitch.org/browse/FS-3006 are the changes pending trunk). In addition move the portaudio.2010.vxcproj over the version in freeswitch\libs\portaudio\build\msvc to enable direct X support. Make sure you have the WPF Toolkit also installed. Build trunk and then for FSClient set the ENV var FREESWITCH_SRC_LOCATION to the src location and it will also auto-copy the needed files into the build folder. History: Back in May I wanted a SIP client that supported the Jabra headsets, after not finding one that would work as I liked I looked to open source and everyone pointed me towards FSComm. FSComm is great, and has a huge amount of time poured into it, but the C++/QT base for it was not for me. .NET was the natural choice due to its rapid development time and stability so I went there. After a few weeks work I had a client that I used for over 6 months and was fairly stable with relatively minor changes. A few weeks ago on the conference call someone mentioned wanting a windows sip client option and I figured I would offer up my code base. Well getting private code ready for public use was a bit more complex than planned but its here now and certainly in the past several weeks has had a lot of development. ~Mitch
Sounds great - but unfortunately installation fails with this error message: Test environment was Windows Vista Business SP2 X64 installed as virtual machine. Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Daniel Neubert On 02.02.2011 07:39, Mitch Capper wrote:
In prep for tomorrows conference I am happy to release FSClient. I would like to thank DRK and especially jlenk for their continued support and help on this project. jlenk created the installer, fixed code, and certainly helped bring it along quite a bit faster! FSClient is a windows SIP client: Most features of any standard sip client multiple calls at once transfer, holding, speakerphone, DND multiple SIP accounts advanced headset support (caller id, buttons, etc) for jabra and plantronics out of the box (with plugin support for easily adding others) basic contact book support (with a sample XML contact book plugin provided) All codecs (minus commercial g729 support) that freeswitch supports
Give it a shot and let us know about any issues you run into, overall it was decently tested for many months but some of the rapid changes as of late means there may be some larger bugs that crept in. I will also be on the conference call tomorrow and can answer questions there.
And so to download the binaries: http://files.freeswitch.org/windows/installer/x86/FSClient.zip There will be a readme in the install dir on usage.
The source code is available on the contrib git repo mitchcapper/FSClient.
As for building from source you will need to do a few things to trunk currently. In the source folder you need to move mod_portaudio.c to the freeswitch\src\mod\endpoints\mod_portaudio folder (http://jira.freeswitch.org/browse/FS-3006 are the changes pending trunk). In addition move the portaudio.2010.vxcproj over the version in freeswitch\libs\portaudio\build\msvc to enable direct X support. Make sure you have the WPF Toolkit also installed. Build trunk and then for FSClient set the ENV var FREESWITCH_SRC_LOCATION to the src location and it will also auto-copy the needed files into the build folder.
History: Back in May I wanted a SIP client that supported the Jabra headsets, after not finding one that would work as I liked I looked to open source and everyone pointed me towards FSComm. FSComm is great, and has a huge amount of time poured into it, but the C++/QT base for it was not for me. .NET was the natural choice due to its rapid development time and stability so I went there.
After a few weeks work I had a client that I used for over 6 months and was fairly stable with relatively minor changes. A few weeks ago on the conference call someone mentioned wanting a windows sip client option and I figured I would offer up my code base. Well getting private code ready for public use was a bit more complex than planned but its here now and certainly in the past several weeks has had a lot of development.
~Mitch
I am investigating the cause of this error. If anybody has windows machines with other locales (non US English) available please report back here with the results. I have only tested the installer with an English locale at this time. If someone could confirm that thats the problem I would be grateful and will then work on a fix. -- View this message in context: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/FSClient-Release-A-FreeSWITCH-... Sent from the freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
I have uploaded a version of the installer that should fix the "Authenticated User" security problem. Please test and let me know. -- View this message in context: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/FSClient-Release-A-FreeSWITCH-... Sent from the freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
I'm also having the error with security settings. Im on Windows 7 Pro X64. The PC is part of a domain. Kind regards Erik Btw, if I need to debug, please contact me on irc . Nick wvds-nl Van: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] Namens Mitch Capper Verzonden: woensdag 2 februari 2011 7:40 Aan: FreeSWITCH Users Help Onderwerp: [Freeswitch-users] FSClient Release - A FreeSWITCH SIP Client for Windows in .NET In prep for tomorrows conference I am happy to release FSClient. I would like to thank DRK and especially jlenk for their continued support and help on this project. jlenk created the installer, fixed code, and certainly helped bring it along quite a bit faster! FSClient is a windows SIP client: Most features of any standard sip client multiple calls at once transfer, holding, speakerphone, DND multiple SIP accounts advanced headset support (caller id, buttons, etc) for jabra and plantronics out of the box (with plugin support for easily adding others) basic contact book support (with a sample XML contact book plugin provided) All codecs (minus commercial g729 support) that freeswitch supports Give it a shot and let us know about any issues you run into, overall it was decently tested for many months but some of the rapid changes as of late means there may be some larger bugs that crept in. I will also be on the conference call tomorrow and can answer questions there. And so to download the binaries: http://files.freeswitch.org/windows/installer/x86/FSClient.zip There will be a readme in the install dir on usage. The source code is available on the contrib git repo mitchcapper/FSClient. As for building from source you will need to do a few things to trunk currently. In the source folder you need to move mod_portaudio.c to the freeswitch\src\mod\endpoints\mod_portaudio folder (http://jira.freeswitch.org/browse/FS-3006 are the changes pending trunk). In addition move the portaudio.2010.vxcproj over the version in freeswitch\libs\portaudio\build\msvc to enable direct X support. Make sure you have the WPF Toolkit also installed. Build trunk and then for FSClient set the ENV var FREESWITCH_SRC_LOCATION to the src location and it will also auto-copy the needed files into the build folder. History: Back in May I wanted a SIP client that supported the Jabra headsets, after not finding one that would work as I liked I looked to open source and everyone pointed me towards FSComm. FSComm is great, and has a huge amount of time poured into it, but the C++/QT base for it was not for me. .NET was the natural choice due to its rapid development time and stability so I went there. After a few weeks work I had a client that I used for over 6 months and was fairly stable with relatively minor changes. A few weeks ago on the conference call someone mentioned wanting a windows sip client option and I figured I would offer up my code base. Well getting private code ready for public use was a bit more complex than planned but its here now and certainly in the past several weeks has had a lot of development. ~Mitch
Unfortunately, two problems happened when trying to install: the installer did not try to elevate itself and so I had to rerun it as administrator -- and when I finally did install the thing, all I got was a window with the title and maybe a graphic or two and nothing else -- no menus or buttons or anything. Mitch Capper <mitch.capper@gmail.com> wrote:
In prep for tomorrows conference I am happy to release FSClient. I would like to thank DRK and especially jlenk for their continued support and help on this project. jlenk created the installer, fixed code, and certainly helped bring it along quite a bit faster! FSClient is a windows SIP client: Most features of any standard sip client multiple calls at once transfer, holding, speakerphone, DND multiple SIP accounts advanced headset support (caller id, buttons, etc) for jabra and plantronics out of the box (with plugin support for easily adding others) basic contact book support (with a sample XML contact book plugin provided) All codecs (minus commercial g729 support) that freeswitch supports
Give it a shot and let us know about any issues you run into, overall it was decently tested for many months but some of the rapid changes as of late means there may be some larger bugs that crept in. I will also be on the conference call tomorrow and can answer questions there.
And so to download the binaries: http://files.freeswitch.org/windows/installer/x86/FSClient.zip There will be a readme in the install dir on usage.
The source code is available on the contrib git repo mitchcapper/FSClient.
As for building from source you will need to do a few things to trunk currently. In the source folder you need to move mod_portaudio.c to the freeswitch\src\mod\endpoints\mod_portaudio folder ( http://jira.freeswitch.org/browse/FS-3006 are the changes pending trunk). In addition move the portaudio.2010.vxcproj over the version in freeswitch\libs\portaudio\build\msvc to enable direct X support. Make sure you have the WPF Toolkit also installed. Build trunk and then for FSClient set the ENV var FREESWITCH_SRC_LOCATION to the src location and it will also auto-copy the needed files into the build folder.
History: Back in May I wanted a SIP client that supported the Jabra headsets, after not finding one that would work as I liked I looked to open source and everyone pointed me towards FSComm. FSComm is great, and has a huge amount of time poured into it, but the C++/QT base for it was not for me. .NET was the natural choice due to its rapid development time and stability so I went there.
After a few weeks work I had a client that I used for over 6 months and was fairly stable with relatively minor changes. A few weeks ago on the conference call someone mentioned wanting a windows sip client option and I figured I would offer up my code base. Well getting private code ready for public use was a bit more complex than planned but its here now and certainly in the past several weeks has had a lot of development.
~Mitch
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John, What OS? Did you get prompted for downloading the .Net framework when you ran setup? There is much to test here any help diagnosing these problems is great. -- View this message in context: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/FSClient-Release-A-FreeSWITCH-... Sent from the freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
I am pretty sure I have the .net framework already. I am using WindowEyes as the screenreader, so there may be some interaction -- let me see what .net framework I have -- it says Microsoft net framework 4 client profile. Jeff Lenk <jeff@jefflenk.com> wrote:
John,
What OS? Did you get prompted for downloading the .Net framework when you ran setup? There is much to test here any help diagnosing these problems is great. -- View this message in context: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/FSClient-Release-A-FreeSWITCH-... Sent from the freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Thanks John, Yes thats the correct version. This is a WPF application so maybe thats the issue we are having with the screen reader. I will do some investigation to whether that is the cause. -- View this message in context: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/FSClient-Release-A-FreeSWITCH-... Sent from the freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
I am able to use 2011 version of msn messenger, so I should be good to go if things are properly written. Jeff Lenk <jeff@jefflenk.com> wrote:
Thanks John,
Yes thats the correct version. This is a WPF application so maybe thats the issue we are having with the screen reader. I will do some investigation to whether that is the cause. -- View this message in context: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/FSClient-Release-A-FreeSWITCH-... Sent from the freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Hi Guys, I am sorry for the issues with the installer we rushed to get one together to make it easier on everyone for the conference today and did not have a chance to have too many others test it. First per the "Elevation Question" not the installer will not prompt for elevation until after you select install (basically setup.exe collects the install options then runs the MSI and should prompt at that time for admin rights). In the mean time I have put together a ZIP that you should be able to exact to a directory for now and run, you can find it at: http://fluky.org/FSClientPortable.zip Technically the installer should make sure you have .net 4.0 installed so if you use the zip make sure you already have it installed otherwise it is at: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=0a391abd-25c1-4f... Also please note, when the app starts up it does take 5-15 seconds to load while freeswitch is spinning up before you can do anything. ~Mitch
The current installer does not ask for admin rights -- it just dies with a message about some policy preventing the install, but it does install if you run as administrator. Mitch Capper <mitch.capper@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Guys, I am sorry for the issues with the installer we rushed to get one together to make it easier on everyone for the conference today and did not have a chance to have too many others test it. First per the "Elevation Question" not the installer will not prompt for elevation until after you select install (basically setup.exe collects the install options then runs the MSI and should prompt at that time for admin rights). In the mean time I have put together a ZIP that you should be able to exact to a directory for now and run, you can find it at: http://fluky.org/FSClientPortable.zip
Technically the installer should make sure you have .net 4.0 installed so if you use the zip make sure you already have it installed otherwise it is at: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=0a391abd-25c1-4f...
Also please note, when the app starts up it does take 5-15 seconds to load while freeswitch is spinning up before you can do anything.
~Mitch
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John, What is your OS? I'm guessing its XP. -- View this message in context: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/FSClient-Release-A-FreeSWITCH-... Sent from the freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Windows 7 32-bit. Jeff Lenk <jeff@jefflenk.com> wrote:
John,
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Nope, uac is there. Drk gave me a hint as to what is happening -- when you made the templates for the buttons, list boxes, etc. you didn't label them souia or msaa would see them, and maybe you labeled them graphically -- this is why I am not seeing any controls. Jeff Lenk <jeff@jefflenk.com> wrote:
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Can you provide a screenshot of the client? Thanks in advance, -E
http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/File:Fsclientscreen.png ~Mitch On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:08 PM, EdPimentl <edpimentl@gmail.com> wrote:
Can you provide a screenshot of the client?
Thanks in advance, -E
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This is what I have in the plugins.log after I try to run the application (the main screen shows up for a few seconds but an exception is thrown) ---- plugins.log ----- 2/5/2011 11:30:30 PM - Headset Plugin Manager: Plugin JabraProvider had an error Due to: Could not load file or assembly 'JabraTelephonyAPI, Version=1.2.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=8f966dc7fd80e1d9' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified. 2/5/2011 11:30:30 PM - Headset Plugin Manager: Error creating headset plugin from dll "C:\Program Files (x86)\FSClient\Plugins\JabraHeadset.dll" of: Could not load file or assembly 'JabraTelephonyAPI, Version=1.2.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=8f966dc7fd80e1d9' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified. 2/5/2011 11:30:30 PM - Headset Plugin Manager: Plugin Plantronics Provider had an error Due to: Could not load file or assembly 'Plantronics.Device.Common, Version=2.1.39537.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=a8048bce41894b6e' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified. 2/5/2011 11:30:49 PM - Headset Plugin Manager: Error terminating a plugin: Could not load file or assembly 'JabraTelephonyAPI, Version=1.2.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=8f966dc7fd80e1d9' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified. ----freeswitch.log---- 2011-02-05 23:33:48.934072 [ERR] mod_PortAudio.c:1191 Cannot find an input device 2011-02-05 23:33:48.934072 [WARNING] mod_PortAudio.c:1199 Switching to default output device 2011-02-05 23:33:48.934072 [WARNING] mod_PortAudio.c:1208 Invalid ring device configured using output device 2011-02-05 23:33:48.934072 [CRIT] switch_loadable_module.c:928 Error Loading module C:\Program Files (x86)\FSClient\mod\mod_portaudio.dll **Module load routine returned an error** -- Yitzchok On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:37 PM, EdPimentl <edpimentl@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks
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The plugins are not needed to use. Investigate why mod_portaudio doesnt load. What OS(and service level) and audio hardware? -- View this message in context: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/FSClient-Release-A-FreeSWITCH-... Sent from the freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Also are you using the public installer or did you compile yourself? Looking at the error log there and why mod_portaudio doesn't load the issue is the fact it is unable to find any input device on your system. Do you have a microphone or other input device that shows up in the windows sound control panel? ~Mitch On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Yitzchok <adminjew@gmail.com> wrote:
----freeswitch.log---- 2011-02-05 23:33:48.934072 [ERR] mod_PortAudio.c:1191 Cannot find an input device 2011-02-05 23:33:48.934072 [WARNING] mod_PortAudio.c:1199 Switching to default output device 2011-02-05 23:33:48.934072 [WARNING] mod_PortAudio.c:1208 Invalid ring device configured using output device 2011-02-05 23:33:48.934072 [CRIT] switch_loadable_module.c:928 Error Loading module C:\Program Files (x86)\FSClient\mod\mod_portaudio.dll **Module load routine returned an error**
-- Yitzchok
Mitch, That might be it I tried on another computer and it worked. Yitzchok On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Mitch Capper <mitch.capper@gmail.com>wrote:
Also are you using the public installer or did you compile yourself? Looking at the error log there and why mod_portaudio doesn't load the issue is the fact it is unable to find any input device on your system. Do you have a microphone or other input device that shows up in the windows sound control panel?
~Mitch
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Yitzchok <adminjew@gmail.com> wrote:
----freeswitch.log---- 2011-02-05 23:33:48.934072 [ERR] mod_PortAudio.c:1191 Cannot find an input device 2011-02-05 23:33:48.934072 [WARNING] mod_PortAudio.c:1199 Switching to default output device 2011-02-05 23:33:48.934072 [WARNING] mod_PortAudio.c:1208 Invalid ring device configured using output device 2011-02-05 23:33:48.934072 [CRIT] switch_loadable_module.c:928 Error Loading module C:\Program Files (x86)\FSClient\mod\mod_portaudio.dll **Module load routine returned an error**
-- Yitzchok
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Mitch, you beat me to it... I think it might be time for me to get back to FSComm and drop being picky about the AEC thing? Sad but true, I think that the only way for me to draw attention of someone who knows about this stuff is actually doing the rest like you did. Great initiative. I truly congratulate you from pulling something I couldn't so far. Regards, João Mesquita On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Mitch Capper <mitch.capper@gmail.com> wrote:
In prep for tomorrows conference I am happy to release FSClient. I would like to thank DRK and especially jlenk for their continued support and help on this project. jlenk created the installer, fixed code, and certainly helped bring it along quite a bit faster! FSClient is a windows SIP client: Most features of any standard sip client multiple calls at once transfer, holding, speakerphone, DND multiple SIP accounts advanced headset support (caller id, buttons, etc) for jabra and plantronics out of the box (with plugin support for easily adding others) basic contact book support (with a sample XML contact book plugin provided) All codecs (minus commercial g729 support) that freeswitch supports
Give it a shot and let us know about any issues you run into, overall it was decently tested for many months but some of the rapid changes as of late means there may be some larger bugs that crept in. I will also be on the conference call tomorrow and can answer questions there.
And so to download the binaries: http://files.freeswitch.org/windows/installer/x86/FSClient.zip There will be a readme in the install dir on usage.
The source code is available on the contrib git repo mitchcapper/FSClient.
As for building from source you will need to do a few things to trunk currently. In the source folder you need to move mod_portaudio.c to the freeswitch\src\mod\endpoints\mod_portaudio folder ( http://jira.freeswitch.org/browse/FS-3006 are the changes pending trunk). In addition move the portaudio.2010.vxcproj over the version in freeswitch\libs\portaudio\build\msvc to enable direct X support. Make sure you have the WPF Toolkit also installed. Build trunk and then for FSClient set the ENV var FREESWITCH_SRC_LOCATION to the src location and it will also auto-copy the needed files into the build folder.
History: Back in May I wanted a SIP client that supported the Jabra headsets, after not finding one that would work as I liked I looked to open source and everyone pointed me towards FSComm. FSComm is great, and has a huge amount of time poured into it, but the C++/QT base for it was not for me. .NET was the natural choice due to its rapid development time and stability so I went there.
After a few weeks work I had a client that I used for over 6 months and was fairly stable with relatively minor changes. A few weeks ago on the conference call someone mentioned wanting a windows sip client option and I figured I would offer up my code base. Well getting private code ready for public use was a bit more complex than planned but its here now and certainly in the past several weeks has had a lot of development.
~Mitch
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On 02/02/2011 09:48 PM, João Mesquita wrote:
Mitch, you beat me to it...
I think it might be time for me to get back to FSComm and drop being picky about the AEC thing? Sad but true, I think that the only way for me to draw attention of someone who knows about this stuff is actually doing the rest like you did. Great initiative. I truly congratulate you from pulling something I couldn't so far.
I am puzzled why the AEC issue would ever have affected your development of FSComm. Although a headset or handset needs EC for really good telephone, the lack fo AEC is only a killer for speakerphone usage. On this topic, a little experimentation suggests the following... Skype appears to do good AEC on a PC, but when you listen carefully is seems more like they avoid proper AEC, and use the kind of adaptive gain juggling the DSP Group pushed heavily in the early 90s. The final result is very acceptable, though, and avoids the problems to non-matching mic and speaker sampling rates that you get with many PC sound cards. Skype on a Symbian handset and a Mac seems to do proper echo cancellation, and gives results a bit better than on a PC. The limited range of hardware used in these platforms makes AEC more of a practical option. If anyone has further information about the exact schemes used by Skype, I would really like to hear from them. Skype is used on so many machines, that whatever strategy they have found workable across a wide range of hardware should be a safe bet for us to use. Steve
Steve, the reason why I was developing FSComm is purely out of passion for development. That passion includes me using the software I produce afterwards. As you might have imagined, I use a Mac. I have complained a lot about all the software that claim to be multi platform and that do a lousy job using the features that to me are basic on a soft phone. That includes using it on a speaker on a Mac which is one of the most widely used features for business guys with Skype. Most probably it relates closely to it's success. That feature has stopped me from using regular soft phones for a long time now on any my devices and being stuck with hard phones just because i cant manage to be attached to the Mac with a corded headset. Granted, there are bluetooth options that i could have bought and i chose not to. That being said, I have researched for AEC for quite some time now and even though i am don't consider myself too much of a lame tech guy, implementing the theory I have found is not up to my knowledge and thats is precisely why i reached out to the community. I don't believe we need an AEC technology that is absolutely insanely great like what Skype does, my goal is to find one technology/implementation that does a good job on a small office room. I couldn't get that with the speexdsp which most certainly points that i probably don't know hoe to use it properly. Sorry for the long reply, but i thought the subject needed it. Regards, JM Sent from my iPad On Feb 6, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org> wrote:
On 02/02/2011 09:48 PM, João Mesquita wrote:
Mitch, you beat me to it...
I think it might be time for me to get back to FSComm and drop being picky about the AEC thing? Sad but true, I think that the only way for me to draw attention of someone who knows about this stuff is actually doing the rest like you did. Great initiative. I truly congratulate you from pulling something I couldn't so far.
I am puzzled why the AEC issue would ever have affected your development of FSComm. Although a headset or handset needs EC for really good telephone, the lack fo AEC is only a killer for speakerphone usage.
On this topic, a little experimentation suggests the following...
Skype appears to do good AEC on a PC, but when you listen carefully is seems more like they avoid proper AEC, and use the kind of adaptive gain juggling the DSP Group pushed heavily in the early 90s. The final result is very acceptable, though, and avoids the problems to non-matching mic and speaker sampling rates that you get with many PC sound cards.
Skype on a Symbian handset and a Mac seems to do proper echo cancellation, and gives results a bit better than on a PC. The limited range of hardware used in these platforms makes AEC more of a practical option.
If anyone has further information about the exact schemes used by Skype, I would really like to hear from them. Skype is used on so many machines, that whatever strategy they have found workable across a wide range of hardware should be a safe bet for us to use.
Steve
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Can you make it across platform? - jesse On Feb 1, 2011 10:42 PM, "Mitch Capper" <mitch.capper@gmail.com> wrote:
In prep for tomorrows conference I am happy to release FSClient. I would like to thank DRK and especially jlenk for their continued support and help on this project. jlenk created the installer, fixed code, and certainly helped bring it along quite a bit faster! FSClient is a windows SIP client: Most features of any standard sip client multiple calls at once transfer, holding, speakerphone, DND multiple SIP accounts advanced headset support (caller id, buttons, etc) for jabra and plantronics out of the box (with plugin support for easily adding others) basic contact book support (with a sample XML contact book plugin provided) All codecs (minus commercial g729 support) that freeswitch supports
Give it a shot and let us know about any issues you run into, overall it was decently tested for many months but some of the rapid changes as of late means there may be some larger bugs that crept in. I will also be on the conference call tomorrow and can answer questions there.
And so to download the binaries: http://files.freeswitch.org/windows/installer/x86/FSClient.zip There will be a readme in the install dir on usage.
The source code is available on the contrib git repo mitchcapper/FSClient.
As for building from source you will need to do a few things to trunk currently. In the source folder you need to move mod_portaudio.c to the freeswitch\src\mod\endpoints\mod_portaudio folder ( http://jira.freeswitch.org/browse/FS-3006 are the changes pending trunk). In addition move the portaudio.2010.vxcproj over the version in freeswitch\libs\portaudio\build\msvc to enable direct X support. Make sure you have the WPF Toolkit also installed. Build trunk and then for FSClient set the ENV var FREESWITCH_SRC_LOCATION to the src location and it will also auto-copy the needed files into the build folder.
History: Back in May I wanted a SIP client that supported the Jabra headsets, after not finding one that would work as I liked I looked to open source and everyone pointed me towards FSComm. FSComm is great, and has a huge amount of time poured into it, but the C++/QT base for it was not for me. .NET was the natural choice due to its rapid development time and stability so I went there.
After a few weeks work I had a client that I used for over 6 months and was fairly stable with relatively minor changes. A few weeks ago on the conference call someone mentioned wanting a windows sip client option and I figured I would offer up my code base. Well getting private code ready for public use was a bit more complex than planned but its here now and certainly in the past several weeks has had a lot of development.
~Mitch
Originally I expected it to be cross platform, unfortunately mono (.net on linux) does not support WPF and has stated they have no intention of doing so (http://www.mono-project.com/WPF). Unfortunately WinForms is a bit painful gui wise and the only other choice was silverlight. Silverlight could actually replicate the GUI very closely but the one major downside is that silverlight would require a separate executable that the freeswitch core runs in. Ironically this core could also be cross platform using mono, giving a complete cross platform solution, but is not the way I chose to go. It would not be overly hard to port FSClient to silverlight but will not be a task I am undertaking. So for now, until WPF support in mono or it is ported from WPF to silverlight, FSClient will remain windows only. Sorry! ~Mitch On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:15 PM, jesse <chat2jesse@gmail.com> wrote:
Can you make it across platform?
- jesse
participants (11)
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covici＠ccs.covici.com
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Daniel Neubert
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EdPimentl
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Erik Dekkers
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Jeff Lenk
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jesse
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Jmesquita＠freeswitch.org
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João Mesquita
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Mitch Capper
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Steve Underwood
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Yitzchok