How about a USER FORUM and kill off the mail list?
The whole mailing list idea is so "1990's" Is there interest in having a nice Message Forum instead of the mailing list? Viewing threaded items, Searching, seeing what's new and what's hot, etc? I have a hosting server with the capacity to host a forum site in ASP.NET or PHP and MS Sql Server. I am willing to purchase the software (if it is not public domain) and maintain it on my server if people like the idea. I just don't want to throw down a couple hundred $ for nothing. Sean
On 07-06-12 02:00, Sean Devoy wrote:
The whole mailing list idea is so "1990's"
Is there interest in having a nice Message Forum instead of the mailing list? Viewing threaded items, Searching, seeing what’s new and what’s hot, etc?
Since it has been a while I guess it was inevitable that someone would come around with the forum idea again. Have you searched the mailing list archives and read the previous discussion on this subject? It did not work for the Asterisk community and I doubt it would work for this community. If you want forum style, use nabble or gmane. Regards, Patrick
Hammer, meet Nail! Sent from my iPad On Jun 6, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Patrick Lists <freeswitch-list@puzzled.xs4all.nl> wrote:
Since it has been a while I guess it was inevitable that someone would come around with the forum idea again. Have you searched the mailing list archives and read the previous discussion on this subject? It did not work for the Asterisk community and I doubt it would work for this community. If you want forum style, use nabble or gmane.
Regards, Patrick
WTF was that supposed to mean? Nail meet Screw! Hammer meet Screw Gun. Better things come along as we progress. Most of us are in fact no longer living in caves even though they provide great protection from tornados. I was simply asking for a consensus on an idea. I have an earlier post asking if there was software or a website that allowed this type of interface. No responses to that question. Thank you Timothy Bolton for the link to nabble, I had never heard of it. It's not a great interface, but far more usable than dozens of unsearchable email attachments from the "batched in daily digest". I see peoples point about email accessibility off line. I guess I have lived where we have broadband, smart phone and abundant free wifi for so long I did not consider being off the net. That is certainly a valid point. I must say it is counterintuitive for a "forum" on Internet Telephony to be concerned about users without Internet Access. I withdraw my offer an apologize for bringing up the idea. Back to the caves! :-) -----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian@freeswitch.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 9:48 PM To: FreeSWITCH Users Help Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] How about a USER FORUM and kill off the mail list? Hammer, meet Nail! Sent from my iPad On Jun 6, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Patrick Lists <freeswitch-list@puzzled.xs4all.nl> wrote:
Since it has been a while I guess it was inevitable that someone would come around with the forum idea again. Have you searched the mailing list archives and read the previous discussion on this subject? It did not work for the Asterisk community and I doubt it would work for this community. If you want forum style, use nabble or gmane.
Regards, Patrick
I've got all of those things too, but there's still the issue of "I have to go to a website and waste time to help people." Nabble isn't perfect and there are a few other names out there that do the same thing. The mailing list "just works" and even though it isn't perfect it does what's needed. This mailing list IS searchable from Google, so that's a non issue as well. (other) Brian, you make me giggle :-) Brian Foster Endigo Computer LLC Sent from a mobile device. On Jun 7, 2012 11:44 AM, "Brian West" <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
nabble will be exactly what you're looking for.
Sent from my Cave
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I withdraw my offer an apologize for bringing up the idea.
Back to the caves! :-)
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Gmail's search is good enough for me :) On 7 June 2012 16:52, Brian Foster <bdfoster@endigotech.com> wrote:
I've got all of those things too, but there's still the issue of "I have to go to a website and waste time to help people." Nabble isn't perfect and there are a few other names out there that do the same thing. The mailing list "just works" and even though it isn't perfect it does what's needed. This mailing list IS searchable from Google, so that's a non issue as well.
(other) Brian, you make me giggle :-)
Brian Foster Endigo Computer LLC
Sent from a mobile device. On Jun 7, 2012 11:44 AM, "Brian West" <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
nabble will be exactly what you're looking for.
Sent from my Cave
On Jun 7, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Sean Devoy <sdevoy@bizfocused.com> wrote:
I withdraw my offer an apologize for bringing up the idea.
Back to the caves! :-)
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Mailing lists are very searchable in the real world. Try Googling something list "freeswitch mailing list web forum", and you can quickly go through some of the occasions this issue was raised before. Mailing lists seldom turn into a war zone. News groups often do. Web forums only avoid being a war zone with *aggressive* policing. They are usually slow and clumsy to navigate through, too. Why waste the effort? Mailing lists sucks, but the alternatives available today are still worse. Steve On 06/07/2012 11:38 PM, Sean Devoy wrote:
WTF was that supposed to mean?
Nail meet Screw! Hammer meet Screw Gun.
Better things come along as we progress. Most of us are in fact no longer living in caves even though they provide great protection from tornados.
I was simply asking for a consensus on an idea. I have an earlier post asking if there was software or a website that allowed this type of interface. No responses to that question.
Thank you Timothy Bolton for the link to nabble, I had never heard of it. It's not a great interface, but far more usable than dozens of unsearchable email attachments from the "batched in daily digest".
I see peoples point about email accessibility off line. I guess I have lived where we have broadband, smart phone and abundant free wifi for so long I did not consider being off the net. That is certainly a valid point. I must say it is counterintuitive for a "forum" on Internet Telephony to be concerned about users without Internet Access.
I withdraw my offer an apologize for bringing up the idea.
Back to the caves! :-)
-----Original Message----- From: Brian West [mailto:brian@freeswitch.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 9:48 PM To: FreeSWITCH Users Help Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] How about a USER FORUM and kill off the mail list?
Hammer, meet Nail!
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 6, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Patrick Lists <freeswitch-list@puzzled.xs4all.nl> wrote:
Since it has been a while I guess it was inevitable that someone would come around with the forum idea again. Have you searched the mailing list archives and read the previous discussion on this subject? It did not work for the Asterisk community and I doubt it would work for this community. If you want forum style, use nabble or gmane.
Regards, Patrick
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well put! Sent from my beach hut (cave upgrade) On Jun 8, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org> wrote:
Mailing lists are very searchable in the real world. Try Googling something list "freeswitch mailing list web forum", and you can quickly go through some of the occasions this issue was raised before.
Mailing lists seldom turn into a war zone. News groups often do. Web forums only avoid being a war zone with *aggressive* policing. They are usually slow and clumsy to navigate through, too. Why waste the effort? Mailing lists sucks, but the alternatives available today are still worse.
Steve
:) Here's the link to the forum-ified mailing list: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/ If you're unfamiliar with it, you can log in, and reply as well. When you do that, you also reply to the list. 'We who cut mere stones must always be envisioning cathedrals.' Quarry Worker's Creed On 6/6/2012 8:45 PM, Patrick Lists wrote:
On 07-06-12 02:00, Sean Devoy wrote:
The whole mailing list idea is so "1990's"
Is there interest in having a nice Message Forum instead of the mailing list? Viewing threaded items, Searching, seeing what’s new and what’s hot, etc? Since it has been a while I guess it was inevitable that someone would come around with the forum idea again. Have you searched the mailing list archives and read the previous discussion on this subject? It did not work for the Asterisk community and I doubt it would work for this community. If you want forum style, use nabble or gmane.
Regards, Patrick
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Nabble works fine for that kind of thing .. Brian Foster Endigo Computer LLC Sent from a mobile device. On Jun 6, 2012 8:01 PM, "Sean Devoy" <sdevoy@bizfocused.com> wrote:
The whole mailing list idea is so "1990's"****
Is there interest in having a nice Message Forum instead of the mailing list? Viewing threaded items, Searching, seeing what’s new and what’s hot, etc?****
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I have a hosting server with the capacity to host a forum site in ASP.NETor PHP and MS Sql Server. I am willing to purchase the software (if it is not public domain) and maintain it on my server if people like the idea. I just don't want to throw down a couple hundred $ for nothing. ****
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Viewing threaded items, Searching, seeing what’s new and what’s hot, etc?
Strange, my mail client gives me all of that as well as being readable offline and easier to read on the move. On 7 June 2012 01:00, Sean Devoy <sdevoy@bizfocused.com> wrote:
The whole mailing list idea is so "1990's"
Is there interest in having a nice Message Forum instead of the mailing list? Viewing threaded items, Searching, seeing what’s new and what’s hot, etc?
I have a hosting server with the capacity to host a forum site in ASP.NETor PHP and MS Sql Server. I am willing to purchase the software (if it is not public domain) and maintain it on my server if people like the idea. I just don't want to throw down a couple hundred $ for nothing.
Sean
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I make heavy use of gmail's mute (m) to "unsubscribe" from topics. -Avi (This message was painstakingly thumbed out on my mobile, so apologies for brevity and errors.) On Jun 7, 2012 12:23 PM, "Steven Ayre" <steveayre@gmail.com> wrote:
Viewing threaded items, Searching, seeing what’s new and what’s hot, etc?
Strange, my mail client gives me all of that as well as being readable offline and easier to read on the move. On 7 June 2012 01:00, Sean Devoy <sdevoy@bizfocused.com> wrote:
The whole mailing list idea is s...
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Let's say loud: "we're '90ish we're proud" On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Avi Marcus <avi@avimarcus.net> wrote:
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On Jun 7, 2012 12:23 PM, "Steven Ayre" <steveayre@gmail.com> wrote:
Viewing threaded items, Searching, seeing what’s new and what’s hot, etc?
Strange, my mail client gives me all of that as well as being readable offline and easier to read on the move.
On 7 June 2012 01:00, Sean Devoy <sdevoy@bizfocused.com> wrote:
The whole mailing list idea is s...
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Let's actually move to a BBS hosted on a FreeSWITCH Box. ___________________ Mobile Reply On Jun 7, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@gmail.com> wrote: Let's say loud: "we're '90ish we're proud" On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Avi Marcus <avi@avimarcus.net> wrote:
I make heavy use of gmail's mute (m) to "unsubscribe" from topics.
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On Jun 7, 2012 12:23 PM, "Steven Ayre" <steveayre@gmail.com> wrote:
Viewing threaded items, Searching, seeing what’s new and what’s hot, etc?
Strange, my mail client gives me all of that as well as being readable offline and easier to read on the move.
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Id really just rather have a mailing list where it shows up in my inbox and I can look at everything without having an internet connection and queue a response if needed... makes life easy and since I check my email on a constant basis, it just works better. Brian Foster Endigo Computer LLC Sent from a mobile device. On Jun 7, 2012 8:39 AM, "Giovanni Maruzzelli" <gmaruzz@gmail.com> wrote:
Let's say loud: "we're '90ish we're proud"
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Avi Marcus <avi@avimarcus.net> wrote:
I make heavy use of gmail's mute (m) to "unsubscribe" from topics.
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On Jun 7, 2012 12:23 PM, "Steven Ayre" <steveayre@gmail.com> wrote:
Viewing threaded items, Searching, seeing what’s new and what’s hot, etc?
Strange, my mail client gives me all of that as well as being readable offline and easier to read on the move.
On 7 June 2012 01:00, Sean Devoy <sdevoy@bizfocused.com> wrote:
The whole mailing list idea is s...
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Andrew Cassidy
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Avi Marcus
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Brian Foster
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Brian West
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Chris Ferreira
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Giovanni Maruzzelli
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Patrick Lists
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Sean Devoy
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Steve Underwood
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Steven Ayre
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Timothy Bolton