Hello community, I feel glad to announce the new release of *vBilling*, version 0.1.3. The first open source billing platform for FreeSWITCH. This versions has some major enhancements and supports many new features and bug fixes. Some of the highlights are: - *Complete reseller support* - Manage your resellers upto 3 levels. Once created by admin, a reseller can add their sub resellers depending on their permissions - *Mass updates of rates* - Edit your rates in bulk using the mass rate update module - *Built-in Help system* - vBilling now comes with built-in help system. Every element on each form has their own description and a tooltip. Just hover the mouse on the desired element and you will get a tooltip explaining what it means. - *Language localization* - Translate vBilling in your own language. You don't have to edit the bulky HTML/PHP templates. Just edit one language file and you have vBilling talk to you in your own language :) - *Customization of forms/output text* - Looking to customize messages on each screen? This can be done easily by editing one single file with your new messages. - *Carrier Management* - New and improved carrier management module - *Call detail records* - More enhanced CDR views - *New Module for Billing and Invoicing* - Enhanced module for billing and invoicing. But this is not all what we have. Take a look at our website, http://www.vbilling.org/ to explore some more serious features. Upgrading an existing install can never be so easier. Just browse to http://vbilling.org/get-started/ and download the install file, run it and relax. We will take care of the rest. If you have not installed yet, please do visit our website to get started with vBilling. If you face any issues, or do you have any questions, feel free to visit our forum @ http://forum.vbilling.org/ or send an email to support@vbilling.org. Our dedicated staff works round the clock and will try to help you as much as we can. Thanks and regards, Muhammad Naseer
I have a Windows installation (yes, FML) that I can not change to linux, I'm stuck with it. It is running the .msi build from Feb. 29 that otherwise works great. This past weekend's build was declared unusable by Windows installer, go figure. I'm using the conference_auto_outcall feature to initiate an outbound group conference call to 4 endpoints. It works OK, except that because some of them are FXO gateways to analog lines they essentially ring until the initiator disconnects. Unfortunately, the endconf flag is not being honored by mod_conference so the initiator hangs up and the outbound calls keep on ringing because the number of participants is not less than 1. I would expect the endconf flag to drop the entire conference when the extension that created it released, as described by the wiki page. As I am pulling down sources I’m hoping somebody with experience in mod_conference can verify that the 'endconf' flag should or should not work? Have you played with this setting before and what were your results? I am brand new with FreeSWITCH and need all the help I can get. Thanks. Bote
Apologies. This is not a problem after all, at least it's not a problem with FS. :- ) The font my browser or the FS wiki pages uses make parenthesis and braces look very similar. I was using the +flags() with parens instead of +flags{} with braces. That made all the difference in the world. Cancel red alert. I just wish mod_conference spit out a LOT more debug-level messages so that I could have figured it out two days ago. I'll see about that when I return. Thanks. Bote On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Bote Man <bote_radio@botecomm.com> wrote:
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Unfortunately, the endconf flag is not being honored by mod_conference so the initiator hangs up and the outbound calls keep on ringing because the number of participants is not less than 1. I would expect the endconf flag to drop the entire conference when the extension that created it released, as described by the wiki page.****
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As I am pulling down sources I’m hoping somebody with experience in mod_conference can verify that the 'endconf' flag should or should not work? Have you played with this setting before and what were your results? ****
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Hi, I can not see the source code of the lua script, you have it in compiled form only! I thought this is an Open source. Muhammad any plan to make it open source? Other than that, good job :) Thanks Joseph On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Muhammad Naseer Bhatti <nbhatti@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello community, I feel glad to announce the new release of *vBilling*, version 0.1.3. The first open source billing platform for FreeSWITCH. This versions has some major enhancements and supports many new features and bug fixes. Some of the highlights are:
- *Complete reseller support* - Manage your resellers upto 3 levels. Once created by admin, a reseller can add their sub resellers depending on their permissions - *Mass updates of rates* - Edit your rates in bulk using the mass rate update module - *Built-in Help system* - vBilling now comes with built-in help system. Every element on each form has their own description and a tooltip. Just hover the mouse on the desired element and you will get a tooltip explaining what it means. - *Language localization* - Translate vBilling in your own language. You don't have to edit the bulky HTML/PHP templates. Just edit one language file and you have vBilling talk to you in your own language :) - *Customization of forms/output text* - Looking to customize messages on each screen? This can be done easily by editing one single file with your new messages. - *Carrier Management* - New and improved carrier management module - *Call detail records* - More enhanced CDR views - *New Module for Billing and Invoicing* - Enhanced module for billing and invoicing.
But this is not all what we have. Take a look at our website, http://www.vbilling.org/ to explore some more serious features. Upgrading an existing install can never be so easier. Just browse to http://vbilling.org/get-started/ and download the install file, run it and relax. We will take care of the rest. If you have not installed yet, please do visit our website to get started with vBilling.
If you face any issues, or do you have any questions, feel free to visit our forum @ http://forum.vbilling.org/ or send an email to support@vbilling.org. Our dedicated staff works round the clock and will try to help you as much as we can.
Thanks and regards, Muhammad Naseer
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On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:28:25 -0700 Joseph Khoury <kjoseph.us@gmail.com> wrote:
I can not see the source code of the lua script, you have it in compiled form only!
Take a look at: http://luadec51.luaforge.net/ -- Elliptical, n.: The feel of a kiss.
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 01:01:21 +0300 Muhammad Naseer Bhatti <nbhatti@gmail.com> wrote:
I feel glad to announce the new release of *vBilling*, version 0.1.3. The first open source billing platform for FreeSWITCH. This versions has some major enhancements and supports many new features and bug fixes.
...and will not fail until the first (*noticed*) glitch. At that time, the admin have chances to spend many hours/days to manually track all errors - as the database makes no use of any referential integrity... Jean-Yves --
Isn't this open source? But the very front page of the vbilling.org site categorically claims the following: "vBilling is the the first OPEN SOURCE billing platform for FreeSWITCH. With vBilling you can start your own calling card services, send SMS, conference call and voice mail and much more. You can even manage your existing wholesale or retail VoIP business. Because it’s all Open Source, vBilling will always be free and fast evolving. We have developed vBilling using simple architecture that is very easy to configure, so with just a few steps you can create and deploy a very strong billing platform utilizing the power of FreeSWITCH. You can also deploy wide range of telephony applications and services, including IP PBXs, VoIP gateways, call center, IVR systems and much much more." And the header "why OPEN SOURCE?" in the same website states: "We believe that OPEN SOURCE can simply create better and more powerful software. While everyone contributes, the software becomes more mature and stable. OPEN SOURCE software might be cheaper than alternatives, but it has many other business benefits, too. It is often said that open source software wins because it is cheaper. However, the bigger factor in the success of open source software in industry has been performance. Collaborative development projects have opened the door to much wider input than is the case in a closed development environment with subsequent improvements in price and performance. OPEN SOURCE reduces R&D costs, increases productivity, improves efficiency, facilitates interoperability and encourages innovation. This lead us for the open source model." In that case, I am also interested to review the code, any links or hints about the source? Thanks! Or On 3/17/12, Bzzz <lazyvirus@gmx.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 01:01:21 +0300 Muhammad Naseer Bhatti <nbhatti@gmail.com> wrote:
I feel glad to announce the new release of *vBilling*, version 0.1.3. The first open source billing platform for FreeSWITCH. This versions has some major enhancements and supports many new features and bug fixes.
...and will not fail until the first (*noticed*) glitch. At that time, the admin have chances to spend many hours/days to manually track all errors - as the database makes no use of any referential integrity...
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On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:10:16 +0000 Zenny <garbytrash@gmail.com> wrote:
Isn't this open source? But the very front page of the vbilling.org site categorically claims the following:
It is easy these days to be fooled by words, especially because corporations, as usual, have exploited the flaws into basic OSS definition to push the confusion. This lead to OS, FS, FOSS & FLOSS (2 or 3 more definitions and we'll reach ROTFLOL:) See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open_source_software and stay aware. JY -- BOFH excuse #342: HTTPD Error 4004 : very old Intel cpu - insufficient processing power
Who said that com On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Bzzz <lazyvirus@gmx.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:10:16 +0000 Zenny <garbytrash@gmail.com> wrote:
Isn't this open source? But the very front page of the vbilling.org site categorically claims the following:
It is easy these days to be fooled by words, especially because corporations, as usual, have exploited the flaws into basic OSS definition to push the confusion. This lead to OS, FS, FOSS & FLOSS (2 or 3 more definitions and we'll reach ROTFLOL:) See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open_source_software and stay aware.
JY -- BOFH excuse #342: HTTPD Error 4004 : very old Intel cpu - insufficient processing power
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Again, just because it's compiled doesn't mean that it's open source... You do realize most if not all of freeswitch is compiled, right? -BDF -- Brian D. Foster Endigo Computer LLC Email: bdfoster@endigotech.com Phone: 317-800-7876 Indianapolis, Indiana, USA This message contains confidential information and is intended for those listed in the "To:", "CC:", and/or "BCC:" fields of the message header. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version.
Whoops... Just because it is compiled doesn't have anything to do with it being open source or not. There are likely a few reasons why it's compiled (like being faster). You all do realize that most if not all of FreeSWITCH is compiled, right? -BDF On Mar 17, 2012 7:11 PM, "Brian Foster" <bdfoster@endigotech.com> wrote:
Who said that com
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Bzzz <lazyvirus@gmx.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:10:16 +0000 Zenny <garbytrash@gmail.com> wrote:
Isn't this open source? But the very front page of the vbilling.org site categorically claims the following:
It is easy these days to be fooled by words, especially because corporations, as usual, have exploited the flaws into basic OSS definition to push the confusion. This lead to OS, FS, FOSS & FLOSS (2 or 3 more definitions and we'll reach ROTFLOL:) See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open_source_software and stay aware.
JY -- BOFH excuse #342: HTTPD Error 4004 : very old Intel cpu - insufficient processing power
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Again, just because it's compiled doesn't mean that it's open source...
You do realize most if not all of freeswitch is compiled, right?
-BDF
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Just because it is compiled doesn't have anything to do with it being open source or not. There are likely a few reasons why it's compiled (like being faster). You all do realize that most if not all of FreeSWITCH is compiled, right?
But either docs & source are crystal clear: when you download the FS source, you got a... source; when you purchase a g729 license, doc warns you before it is a proprietary binary. So, everything's blunt from top to bottom without any "surprise". JY -- This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didnt mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately delete yourself & destroy your computer! Once you have taken this action please contact us.. no you idiot, you cant use your computer, you just destroyed it, and by the way, you are also deleted, but we digress...... The Originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication, unless they are the originator in which case they probably are liable and rightly so considering the content of the aforementioned communication. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mothers brothers wife wearing nothing but cami-knickers, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Pal Meaty-Bites you bought when you went to Woolies yesterday. We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Windows NT & everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, shit, where was I..umm, no matter what happens, IT's NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT!
Once again, just because it's compiled doesn't mean it is or it isn't open source. The source is on github, in uncompiled form. Please check one of my last emails. Also, that particular file is compiled LUA, which, believe it or not, isn't proprietary. -BDF On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Bzzz <lazyvirus@gmx.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 19:18:10 -0400 Brian Foster <bdfoster@endigotech.com> wrote:
Just because it is compiled doesn't have anything to do with it being open source or not. There are likely a few reasons why it's compiled (like being faster). You all do realize that most if not all of FreeSWITCH is compiled, right?
But either docs & source are crystal clear: when you download the FS source, you got a... source; when you purchase a g729 license, doc warns you before it is a proprietary binary. So, everything's blunt from top to bottom without any "surprise".
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On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:03:47 -0400 Brian Foster <bdfoster@endigotech.com> wrote:
Once again, just because it's compiled doesn't mean it is or it isn't open source. The source is on github, in uncompiled form. Please check one of my last emails. Also, that particular file is compiled LUA, which, believe it or not, isn't proprietary.
Hmm, I cloned the source, made a check, but LUA sources isn't in trunk - but as you say this is not a non-OS proof, may be a memory lapse. Anyway, open or closed it has the default of 99% of web applications: database consistence isn't enforced by referential integrities, which makes it production unusable. JY --
You're more than welcome to offer your help to him, if you would like that particular feature. This isn't really the place to do it though. I believe he has a forum hosted somewhere, you might want to check there or send him an email if you feel that's appropriate. -BDF On Mar 17, 2012 8:21 PM, "Bzzz" <lazyvirus@gmx.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:03:47 -0400 Brian Foster <bdfoster@endigotech.com> wrote:
Once again, just because it's compiled doesn't mean it is or it isn't open source. The source is on github, in uncompiled form. Please check one of my last emails. Also, that particular file is compiled LUA, which, believe it or not, isn't proprietary.
Hmm, I cloned the source, made a check, but LUA sources isn't in trunk - but as you say this is not a non-OS proof, may be a memory lapse.
Anyway, open or closed it has the default of 99% of web applications: database consistence isn't enforced by referential integrities, which makes it production unusable.
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You're more than welcome to offer your help to him, if you would like that particular feature.
I surely would, project's very interesting and IMHO very important to FS future spreading, if only the OP used a real RDBMS. --
I like the project and I would like to contribute. But with a compiled code without the source( FreeSwitch comes compiled and you have the full source and can compile it yourself). Having said that Open starts with O , Compiled = Closed starts with C and ends with luaC :) On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Bzzz <lazyvirus@gmx.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:18:33 -0400 Brian Foster <bdfoster@endigotech.com> wrote:
You're more than welcome to offer your help to him, if you would like that particular feature.
I surely would, project's very interesting and IMHO very important to FS future spreading, if only the OP used a real RDBMS.
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Ever heard of gcc? Probably should go over the source files of freeswitch, and compare it to what you see in /usr/local/freeswitch. On Mar 17, 2012 10:12 PM, "Joseph Khoury" <kjoseph.us@gmail.com> wrote:
I like the project and I would like to contribute. But with a compiled code without the source( FreeSwitch comes compiled and you have the full source and can compile it yourself).
Having said that Open starts with O , Compiled = Closed starts with C and ends with luaC :)
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Bzzz <lazyvirus@gmx.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:18:33 -0400 Brian Foster <bdfoster@endigotech.com> wrote:
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I surely would, project's very interesting and IMHO very important to FS future spreading, if only the OP used a real RDBMS.
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Yep, I checked the "source" at https://github.com/digitallinx/vBilling and git cloned it to check the source. But I could not find the sources to the *.bin files in the "source". If I am wrong, please point to the source of the binaries. Like Brian stated, I also believe vBilling may help popularize FreeSWITCH only if it a truly open sourced without gimmicks. Thanks! On 3/18/12, Brian Foster <bdfoster@endigotech.com> wrote:
Ever heard of gcc? Probably should go over the source files of freeswitch, and compare it to what you see in /usr/local/freeswitch. On Mar 17, 2012 10:12 PM, "Joseph Khoury" <kjoseph.us@gmail.com> wrote:
I like the project and I would like to contribute. But with a compiled code without the source( FreeSwitch comes compiled and you have the full source and can compile it yourself).
Having said that Open starts with O , Compiled = Closed starts with C and ends with luaC :)
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Bzzz <lazyvirus@gmx.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:18:33 -0400 Brian Foster <bdfoster@endigotech.com> wrote:
You're more than welcome to offer your help to him, if you would like that particular feature.
I surely would, project's very interesting and IMHO very important to FS future spreading, if only the OP used a real RDBMS.
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Folks, vBilling is a real open source application. The fact that lua source was not published yet because we are rapidly working on updates. We will push the lua source in a few days once the product becomes more stable. *.bin files were compiled to get better performance. It is compiled bytecode only. Currently we support CentOS and Debian based distros like Debian/Ubuntu. In future we are planning to add other distributions as well. Feel free to contribute if you would like to port vBilling to any other systems. It simply needs MySQL, a web server with php and FreeSWITCH to run. Open Source does not means the product is supported by all operating systems. It may or may not be supported by just one or many operating systems. Can you or would like to install Open Source "Linux" on a windows operating system? :-) I would appreciate if we can have constructive comments and community support to make this a success project. Thanks, Muhammad On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Thomas Hoellriegel <admin@blindi.net>wrote:
Hi Zenny The question: Is vbilling really opensource? Open source products can be installed on all operating systems. I found the *.bin files only for debian ubuntu and centos. For example: gentoo, slackware, bsds, and others are not supportet. So much for open source. :-)
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I think we need a conference call session on what open source is. It's actually pretty simple, though. The difference between compiled and open source? -They are two different things. Open source software runs on any operating system -Not true, as stated above. Believe it or not there's open source software that runs on Windows only. Or Free/NetBSD only. I could go on. It's not open source unless the developers have no way to make money from it. -Absolutely wrong. Many projects offer support services, training, and sometimes they have a community edition and a paid edition. If anyone has any questions concerning the differences between open and closed source let me/us know. But, please please please, do not discredit a developer and his project until you know the facts. Right now, this project is in it's early days, and needs everything to go just right to make this a successful project. -BDF On Mar 18, 2012 9:47 AM, "Muhammad Naseer Bhatti" <nbhatti@gmail.com> wrote:
Folks, vBilling is a real open source application. The fact that lua source was not published yet because we are rapidly working on updates. We will push the lua source in a few days once the product becomes more stable. *.bin files were compiled to get better performance. It is compiled bytecode only.
Currently we support CentOS and Debian based distros like Debian/Ubuntu. In future we are planning to add other distributions as well. Feel free to contribute if you would like to port vBilling to any other systems. It simply needs MySQL, a web server with php and FreeSWITCH to run.
Open Source does not means the product is supported by all operating systems. It may or may not be supported by just one or many operating systems. Can you or would like to install Open Source "Linux" on a windows operating system? :-)
I would appreciate if we can have constructive comments and community support to make this a success project.
Thanks, Muhammad
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Thomas Hoellriegel <admin@blindi.net>wrote:
Hi Zenny The question: Is vbilling really opensource? Open source products can be installed on all operating systems. I found the *.bin files only for debian ubuntu and centos. For example: gentoo, slackware, bsds, and others are not supportet. So much for open source. :-)
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Thanks Mr. Bhatti for your confirmation and commitment to OS. I look forward to the sources of the binaries from lua. Indeed, you are doing a great job. Keep it on! :-) PS: I am seeing a deviation of this thread. It is MPL licensed from what I read it here: https://github.com/digitallinx/vBilling/tree/master/htdocs. When the sources of the lua binaries be released, it satisfies the claim. ;-) On 3/18/12, Muhammad Naseer Bhatti <nbhatti@gmail.com> wrote:
Folks, vBilling is a real open source application. The fact that lua source was not published yet because we are rapidly working on updates. We will push the lua source in a few days once the product becomes more stable. *.bin files were compiled to get better performance. It is compiled bytecode only.
Currently we support CentOS and Debian based distros like Debian/Ubuntu. In future we are planning to add other distributions as well. Feel free to contribute if you would like to port vBilling to any other systems. It simply needs MySQL, a web server with php and FreeSWITCH to run.
Open Source does not means the product is supported by all operating systems. It may or may not be supported by just one or many operating systems. Can you or would like to install Open Source "Linux" on a windows operating system? :-)
I would appreciate if we can have constructive comments and community support to make this a success project.
Thanks, Muhammad
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Thomas Hoellriegel <admin@blindi.net>wrote:
Hi Zenny The question: Is vbilling really opensource? Open source products can be installed on all operating systems. I found the *.bin files only for debian ubuntu and centos. For example: gentoo, slackware, bsds, and others are not supportet. So much for open source. :-)
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Am 18.03.12 um 16:45 schrieb Muhammad Naseer Bhatti:
Open Source does not means the product is supported by all operating systems. It may or may not be supported by just one or many operating systems. Can you or would like to install Open Source "Linux" on a windows operating system? :-)
I mean: vBilling is "opensource". for Example: i can install Fs, apache, mysql-server and php on windows systems. vBilling is a Web-application. You can.t execute linux-binary on Windowsplatforms. I find this very interesting product. Since I am a system administrator, I like to test this product under various conditions. I am also certified LPI. Since I am blind, I always put great value to Accessibility Statement. -------------- Du kannst mich jederzeit kostenlos per Festnetz erreichen unter: http://www.blindi.net/callback homepage: http://www.blindi.net blinde-misc mailingliste für blinde. anmeldung unter: http://www.blindi.net/mailman/listinfo/blinde-misc
Thanks Muhammad for the clarification. I'll be more than happy to help once the source code is published. Regards, Joseph On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Thomas Hoellriegel <admin@blindi.net>wrote:
Am 18.03.12 um 16:45 schrieb Muhammad Naseer Bhatti:
Open Source does not means the product is supported by all operating
systems. It may or may not be supported by just one or many operating systems. Can you or would like to install Open Source "Linux" on a windows operating system? :-)
I mean: vBilling is "opensource". for Example: i can install Fs, apache, mysql-server and php on windows systems. vBilling is a Web-application. You can.t execute linux-binary on Windowsplatforms. I find this very interesting product. Since I am a system administrator, I like to test this product under various conditions. I am also certified LPI. Since I am blind, I always put great value to Accessibility Statement.
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Hi Guys, i use these instructions from: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Mod_opal My Os is debian squeeze. I install the needed packages and git The commands i type: git clone git://git.freeswitch.org/freeswitch.git And i run: cd /usr/src/freeswitch ./build/buildopal.sh The compilation fails. Here is the last output: checking ptlib version... 2.11.2 checking PTLIB has URL... yes checking PTLIB has STUN... no ERROR: compulsory feature from PTLib disabled. Make fails. Can Your help please? Thanks --------------- Du kannst mich jederzeit kostenlos per Festnetz erreichen unter: http://www.blindi.net/callback homepage: http://www.blindi.net blinde-misc mailingliste für blinde. anmeldung unter: http://www.blindi.net/mailman/listinfo/blinde-misc
Fix the script so STUN is enabled in ptlib. On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Thomas Hoellriegel <admin@blindi.net> wrote:
Hi Guys, i use these instructions from: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Mod_opal My Os is debian squeeze. I install the needed packages and git The commands i type: git clone git://git.freeswitch.org/freeswitch.git And i run: cd /usr/src/freeswitch ./build/buildopal.sh The compilation fails. Here is the last output: checking ptlib version... 2.11.2 checking PTLIB has URL... yes checking PTLIB has STUN... no ERROR: compulsory feature from PTLib disabled. Make fails. Can Your help please? Thanks
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Jeff, Can we get this on the patch we've been working on? On Mar 18, 2012 9:38 PM, "curriegrad2004" <curriegrad2004@gmail.com> wrote:
Fix the script so STUN is enabled in ptlib.
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Thomas Hoellriegel <admin@blindi.net> wrote:
Hi Guys, i use these instructions from: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Mod_opal My Os is debian squeeze. I install the needed packages and git The commands i type: git clone git://git.freeswitch.org/freeswitch.git And i run: cd /usr/src/freeswitch ./build/buildopal.sh The compilation fails. Here is the last output: checking ptlib version... 2.11.2 checking PTLIB has URL... yes checking PTLIB has STUN... no ERROR: compulsory feature from PTLib disabled. Make fails. Can Your help please? Thanks
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Same goes for you. Please read my last email. -BDF On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Bzzz <lazyvirus@gmx.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:10:16 +0000 Zenny <garbytrash@gmail.com> wrote:
Isn't this open source? But the very front page of the vbilling.org site categorically claims the following:
It is easy these days to be fooled by words, especially because corporations, as usual, have exploited the flaws into basic OSS definition to push the confusion. This lead to OS, FS, FOSS & FLOSS (2 or 3 more definitions and we'll reach ROTFLOL:) See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open_source_software and stay aware.
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The source code IS available. Please do not spread FUD. You should probably take a look at https://github.com/digitallinx/vBilling before posting anymore about this really great software that a developer has graciously set into the world, free of charge and open source. -BDF (And, please, if you are going to rant about someone's software, get your facts right first. Also, show some respect and don't do it on the developer's release announcement. It's just common courtesy.) On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Zenny <garbytrash@gmail.com> wrote:
Isn't this open source? But the very front page of the vbilling.org site categorically claims the following:
"vBilling is the the first OPEN SOURCE billing platform for FreeSWITCH. With vBilling you can start your own calling card services, send SMS, conference call and voice mail and much more. You can even manage your existing wholesale or retail VoIP business. Because it’s all Open Source, vBilling will always be free and fast evolving. We have developed vBilling using simple architecture that is very easy to configure, so with just a few steps you can create and deploy a very strong billing platform utilizing the power of FreeSWITCH. You can also deploy wide range of telephony applications and services, including IP PBXs, VoIP gateways, call center, IVR systems and much much more."
And the header "why OPEN SOURCE?" in the same website states:
"We believe that OPEN SOURCE can simply create better and more powerful software. While everyone contributes, the software becomes more mature and stable. OPEN SOURCE software might be cheaper than alternatives, but it has many other business benefits, too. It is often said that open source software wins because it is cheaper. However, the bigger factor in the success of open source software in industry has been performance. Collaborative development projects have opened the door to much wider input than is the case in a closed development environment with subsequent improvements in price and performance. OPEN SOURCE reduces R&D costs, increases productivity, improves efficiency, facilitates interoperability and encourages innovation. This lead us for the open source model."
In that case, I am also interested to review the code, any links or hints about the source? Thanks!
Or
On 3/17/12, Bzzz <lazyvirus@gmx.com> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 01:01:21 +0300 Muhammad Naseer Bhatti <nbhatti@gmail.com> wrote:
I feel glad to announce the new release of *vBilling*, version 0.1.3. The first open source billing platform for FreeSWITCH. This versions has some major enhancements and supports many new features and bug fixes.
...and will not fail until the first (*noticed*) glitch. At that time, the admin have chances to spend many hours/days to manually track all errors - as the database makes no use of any referential integrity...
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Bote Man
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Brian Foster
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Joseph Khoury
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Zenny