Anthony, WOW, we would never see that anywhere else. You are my Hero, All the respect, Joseph NOTE : I use xml, never used or will use YAML On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Anthony Minessale < anthony.minessale@gmail.com> wrote:

"I would really like to see YAML as a configuration option in FreeSWITCH, give me this any day and I swear I don't toch Asterisk _ever again_,"

Careful what you wish for........

OK, you promised..... please delete all your asterisk installations and check out and build freeswitch from scratch or do "make current" from an existing install

edit modules.conf in the buildroot (same place you type make from) and add this to the end:

languages/mod_yaml

execute this from your command prompt:

make yaml-files mod_yaml-install

Think twice before you ever accuse me or any of my team of being close minded again.

I wrote this mod_yaml in about 3 hours from never hearing about it before and now that I did it, I can tell you there is no way I would have even considered it for one second to be what I use in the core. Of corse, I would have been able to tell you that already but, whatever.......

So you thinking I am being close minded pisses me off.

What if I came to your house for dinner and the first time I got there I told you that I don't like the color you painted your house and that I want you to get a new dining room table and that instead of a stove you should cook your food with a camp fire?

Then I left and you didn't see me again for a year? You think that would be a good idea?

Bottom line is that anyone who shows up to a new project and tries to tell them some fundamental choice was wrong with almost nothing to back it up better be wearing thermal underwear........

At least you apologized....enjoy mod_yaml as I expect you to completely own it, wikifiy it and provide support to anyone who needs it......

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi,

I'm sorry for my reaction... I know FreeSWITCH is better compared to Asterisk, and I will learn it, with XML or not.

I also don't think XML is a bad thing, it's an open standard and I think I will get used to it.

@Ognjen, when you say:

"You can't be serious that Asterisk/Digium is ok when you ask them for a feature or anything at all? Tony offered them to rewrite obvious broken core to make it better, they said no. I tried 1.4 because of the new features advertised, and I got no sleep beacuse of it for two weeks. What's the point of polishing something that is without any doubt broken in core? I don't understand why are you even looking at FS as an option, if Asterisk is ok for your needs?"

What do you mean with "broken core" exactly? I know asterisk has problems but I would like to know what core problems you refer there. I'm just curious about it.

I'm looking at FS as an alternative to Asterisk because I been having a lot of problems with Asterisk, and I want a system that works better, the problems I had are the following:

http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=12628 http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=12653 http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=12810

And I had more than that... and I keep having problems, I want to move on and have a system that I can trust.

Anyway... I will learn FS and XML, and sorry for my reaction... I know Brian is a good and cool guy and he is the guy that introduced me to FS.

Peace out,

Diego

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Michael Collins <mcollins@fcnetwork.com> wrote:

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...

This XML argument has gone on since FreeSwitch was unveiled and quite frankly I was one of the people railing on Tony for that decision, but as I have continued to look at the core and develop soluitons on this platform it has become more and more obvious that I was wrong initially... (wow someone archive tha.. Its the only time you'll see it on a mailing list :P ) K

So noted! It would be nice to get an audio recording of you groveling for Tony's forgiveness... we could add it to the demo IVR:

"...To hear Ken Rice admit the folly of his ways, please press ..."

:)

-MC

P.S. - Can you record that in UWB mode? =D

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Net Net, anyway you want to say... this is an amazing team. In XML: <open source="AmazingTeam" on="FreeSwitch"> <projectowner>Anthony</projectowner> <development>Mike</development> <qa>Brian</qa> </open> In YAML: AmazingTeam: project : FreeSwitch projectowner: Anthony projectlead: Mike qa: Brian

Read more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAML Diego On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:

This rocks!

Anthony: Thank you so much for this... and sorry for the troubles I caused, I do not think you or anyone else in your team is a closed minded person... FreeSWITCH is the best fruit of your great talent and open mind ;-)

Diego

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:43 PM, EdPimentl <edpimentl@gmail.com> wrote:

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Net Net, anyway you want to say... this is an amazing team.

In XML: <open source="AmazingTeam" on="FreeSwitch"> <projectowner>Anthony</projectowner> <development>Mike</development> <qa>Brian</qa> </open>

In YAML:

AmazingTeam: project : FreeSwitch projectowner: Anthony projectlead: Mike qa: Brian

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Anthony rocks, FS team rocks, will keep rocking!! 3 hour release show a good practice of agile programming at its best. Essentially, asterisk was not bad; actually, the fact is that FS is so so much outstanding, cleaner and working ,that asterisk pales out. Frankly, after seeing this post thread, i lost respect to digium; they turned into a corp from an opensource product, and introduced unneeded hierarchies et al, which decelerated asterisk development, and increased release time, that too unstable , and with bugs. No one there owns up bugs in mantis, let alone deciding on resolution. Salutes to the never ending spirit of man, thats called Anthony!! Countdown to asterisk extinction ? Cheers to all ! Ashutosh On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:02 AM, Ghulam Mustafa <gmustafa@emergen.biz> wrote:

Diego,

...

 This is sad, you claim that FreeSWITCH is more advanced in terms of features and innovation than Asterisk, but all I see with your attitude is that it's more limited and closed-minded.

how come they are close-minded and limited, when open source(e.g freeswitch) gives you freedom to modify code for your own needs/ease. why don't write a mod_yaml? ;)

On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 20:24 -0400, Diego Viola wrote:

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Read more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAML

Diego

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:

...

This rocks!

Anthony: Thank you so much for this... and sorry for the troubles I caused, I do not think you or anyone else in your team is a closed minded person... FreeSWITCH is the best fruit of your great talent and open mind ;-)

Diego

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:43 PM, EdPimentl <edpimentl@gmail.com> wrote:

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Net Net, anyway you want to say... this is an amazing team.

In XML: <open source="AmazingTeam" on="FreeSwitch"> <projectowner>Anthony</projectowner> <development>Mike</development> <qa>Brian</qa> </open>

In YAML:

AmazingTeam: project : FreeSwitch projectowner: Anthony projectlead: Mike qa: Brian

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Yeah, That was implied in the very first line "FS Team rocks!" Cheers again all!! -ash On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Gonzalo Servat <gservat@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Ashutosh <ashutosh.kumars@gmail.com> wrote:

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[..snip..]

Salutes to the never ending spirit of man, thats called Anthony!!

.. and the entire FS team!

- Gonzalo

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