Hello all, Recent developments (or absolute lack of) within the CentOS project and its perceived long term viability has forced an internal discussion to select a successor distribution. The most likely candidates at this point are Ubuntu and its LTS releases for servers, and Scientific Linux with the new 6.x releases. The pro/con lists for each are growing and the issue is complicated. With CentOS 5.x being the reference distro for FreeSWITCH development I'm curious if this conversation has started among the FreeSWITCH developers, and if it has, what is the project leaning to for a successor distribution? Thanks, Max
I'd personally like to know some opinions on distros, being that I've been wanting to move FROM Ubuntu and TO CentOS for stability reasons. Ubuntu's packages update so frequently I'm afraid of newer libraries and such breaking FreeSwitch and/or the way things operate. On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Max Clark <max.clark@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all,
Recent developments (or absolute lack of) within the CentOS project and its perceived long term viability has forced an internal discussion to select a successor distribution. The most likely candidates at this point are Ubuntu and its LTS releases for servers, and Scientific Linux with the new 6.x releases. The pro/con lists for each are growing and the issue is complicated.
With CentOS 5.x being the reference distro for FreeSWITCH development I'm curious if this conversation has started among the FreeSWITCH developers, and if it has, what is the project leaning to for a successor distribution?
Thanks, Max
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For what its worth freeswitch is not dependent on too many things. Freeswitch (despite some peoples hatred of it) fetches the known good versions of libraries that it uses. This helps ensure stability, everyone on an equal platform, and in this case means that if a system library is upgrade it would not affect freeswitch. With that said I personally use Gentoo and have had great results with freeswitch on it. ~Mitch On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Brad Mina <brad@tritelcomm.com> wrote:
I'd personally like to know some opinions on distros, being that I've been wanting to move FROM Ubuntu and TO CentOS for stability reasons. Ubuntu's packages update so frequently I'm afraid of newer libraries and such breaking FreeSwitch and/or the way things operate.
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Max Clark <max.clark@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all,
Recent developments (or absolute lack of) within the CentOS project and its perceived long term viability has forced an internal discussion to select a successor distribution. The most likely candidates at this point are Ubuntu and its LTS releases for servers, and Scientific Linux with the new 6.x releases. The pro/con lists for each are growing and the issue is complicated.
With CentOS 5.x being the reference distro for FreeSWITCH development I'm curious if this conversation has started among the FreeSWITCH developers, and if it has, what is the project leaning to for a successor distribution?
Thanks, Max
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On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Brad Mina <brad@tritelcomm.com> wrote:
I'd personally like to know some opinions on distros, being that I've been wanting to move FROM Ubuntu and TO CentOS for stability reasons. Ubuntu's packages update so frequently I'm afraid of newer libraries and such breaking FreeSwitch and/or the way things operate.
I don't know what's up with CentOS either, but I'm in no hurry to run away from 5.6 right now. That being said, we've been having reports of success with various distros. TJ (IRC: bougyman) has been having what he calls "brilliant success" with Arch Linux, even when running AMD hardware. ;) I've personally used Debian Lenny for a while and I find it to be stable and predictable. Moc has been experimenting with Scientific Linux and he has also reported good success. As it stands now, CentOS is still the "ol' reliable" of the distros and still continues to be boring and predictable - just what we like. :) I'm about to migrate one of my test boxes to CentOS 5.6 and do some testing. I'll report back any issues. -MC
I¹ve been running Centos5.6 for a bit now with not real issues to report with FS... On 5/6/11 12:13 PM, "Michael Collins" <msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:
As it stands now, CentOS is still the "ol' reliable" of the distros and still continues to be boring and predictable - just what we like. :) I'm about to migrate one of my test boxes to CentOS 5.6 and do some testing. I'll report back any issues.
I have been running freeswitch on a test server (old p4 laptop) using a custom made Slitaz live cd with no apparent issues. On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Ken Rice <krice@freeswitch.org> wrote:
I’ve been running Centos5.6 for a bit now with not real issues to report with FS...
On 5/6/11 12:13 PM, "Michael Collins" <msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:
As it stands now, CentOS is still the "ol' reliable" of the distros and still continues to be boring and predictable - just what we like. :) I'm about to migrate one of my test boxes to CentOS 5.6 and do some testing. I'll report back any issues.
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FYI: I've been running FS with latest wanpipe drivers on CentOS 5.6 (x86_64) for about 2 weeks now in 3 servers with no issues whatsoever. I can confirm that the FS RPM's are built successfully with that combination as well. Regards, -- --------------------- Raul Fragoso Software Engineer eTellicom Pty Ltd --------------------- On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 10:13 -0700, Michael Collins wrote:
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Brad Mina <brad@tritelcomm.com> wrote: I'd personally like to know some opinions on distros, being that I've been wanting to move FROM Ubuntu and TO CentOS for stability reasons. Ubuntu's packages update so frequently I'm afraid of newer libraries and such breaking FreeSwitch and/or the way things operate.
I don't know what's up with CentOS either, but I'm in no hurry to run away from 5.6 right now. That being said, we've been having reports of success with various distros. TJ (IRC: bougyman) has been having what he calls "brilliant success" with Arch Linux, even when running AMD hardware. ;) I've personally used Debian Lenny for a while and I find it to be stable and predictable. Moc has been experimenting with Scientific Linux and he has also reported good success.
As it stands now, CentOS is still the "ol' reliable" of the distros and still continues to be boring and predictable - just what we like. :) I'm about to migrate one of my test boxes to CentOS 5.6 and do some testing. I'll report back any issues.
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We have been running CentOS for about 3 years now without any issues. CentOS 5.6 has been working great as well. I am not planning on switching any time soon. Norman Tomlins Voice Network Inc. http://www.VoiceNetwork.ca
Same here.
We have been running CentOS for about 3 years now without any issues. CentOS 5.6 has been working great as well.
I am not planning on switching any time soon.
Norman Tomlins Voice Network Inc. http://www.VoiceNetwork.ca
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Michael, Any experience with RHEL 6.x builds yet? -Max On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Brad Mina <brad@tritelcomm.com> wrote:
I'd personally like to know some opinions on distros, being that I've been wanting to move FROM Ubuntu and TO CentOS for stability reasons. Ubuntu's packages update so frequently I'm afraid of newer libraries and such breaking FreeSwitch and/or the way things operate.
I don't know what's up with CentOS either, but I'm in no hurry to run away from 5.6 right now. That being said, we've been having reports of success with various distros. TJ (IRC: bougyman) has been having what he calls "brilliant success" with Arch Linux, even when running AMD hardware. ;) I've personally used Debian Lenny for a while and I find it to be stable and predictable. Moc has been experimenting with Scientific Linux and he has also reported good success. As it stands now, CentOS is still the "ol' reliable" of the distros and still continues to be boring and predictable - just what we like. :) I'm about to migrate one of my test boxes to CentOS 5.6 and do some testing. I'll report back any issues. -MC _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Yes, I am running Scientific Linux 6 here. No noticeable difference in terms with running it on a Fedora 12/13 box. Runs pretty rock solid, really. On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Max Clark <max.clark@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael,
Any experience with RHEL 6.x builds yet?
-Max
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Brad Mina <brad@tritelcomm.com> wrote:
I'd personally like to know some opinions on distros, being that I've been wanting to move FROM Ubuntu and TO CentOS for stability reasons. Ubuntu's packages update so frequently I'm afraid of newer libraries and such breaking FreeSwitch and/or the way things operate.
I don't know what's up with CentOS either, but I'm in no hurry to run away from 5.6 right now. That being said, we've been having reports of success with various distros. TJ (IRC: bougyman) has been having what he calls "brilliant success" with Arch Linux, even when running AMD hardware. ;) I've personally used Debian Lenny for a while and I find it to be stable and predictable. Moc has been experimenting with Scientific Linux and he has also reported good success. As it stands now, CentOS is still the "ol' reliable" of the distros and still continues to be boring and predictable - just what we like. :) I'm about to migrate one of my test boxes to CentOS 5.6 and do some testing. I'll report back any issues. -MC _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
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same on Fedora10 64bits ----- Original Message ----- From: "curriegrad2004" <curriegrad2004@gmail.com> To: "FreeSWITCH Users Help" <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Moving on from CentOS
Yes, I am running Scientific Linux 6 here. No noticeable difference in terms with running it on a Fedora 12/13 box. Runs pretty rock solid, really.
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Max Clark <max.clark@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael,
Any experience with RHEL 6.x builds yet?
-Max
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Brad Mina <brad@tritelcomm.com> wrote:
I'd personally like to know some opinions on distros, being that I've been wanting to move FROM Ubuntu and TO CentOS for stability reasons. Ubuntu's packages update so frequently I'm afraid of newer libraries and such breaking FreeSwitch and/or the way things operate.
I don't know what's up with CentOS either, but I'm in no hurry to run away from 5.6 right now. That being said, we've been having reports of success with various distros. TJ (IRC: bougyman) has been having what he calls "brilliant success" with Arch Linux, even when running AMD hardware. ;) I've personally used Debian Lenny for a while and I find it to be stable and predictable. Moc has been experimenting with Scientific Linux and he has also reported good success. As it stands now, CentOS is still the "ol' reliable" of the distros and still continues to be boring and predictable - just what we like. :) I'm about to migrate one of my test boxes to CentOS 5.6 and do some testing. I'll report back any issues. -MC _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
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Brad, Out of curiosity is this on LTS? -Max On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Brad Mina <brad@tritelcomm.com> wrote:
I'd personally like to know some opinions on distros, being that I've been wanting to move FROM Ubuntu and TO CentOS for stability reasons. Ubuntu's packages update so frequently I'm afraid of newer libraries and such breaking FreeSwitch and/or the way things operate.
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Max Clark <max.clark@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all,
Recent developments (or absolute lack of) within the CentOS project and its perceived long term viability has forced an internal discussion to select a successor distribution. The most likely candidates at this point are Ubuntu and its LTS releases for servers, and Scientific Linux with the new 6.x releases. The pro/con lists for each are growing and the issue is complicated.
With CentOS 5.x being the reference distro for FreeSWITCH development I'm curious if this conversation has started among the FreeSWITCH developers, and if it has, what is the project leaning to for a successor distribution?
Thanks, Max
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Yes, Ubuntu 10.04LTS On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Max Clark <max.clark@gmail.com> wrote:
Brad,
Out of curiosity is this on LTS?
-Max
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Brad Mina <brad@tritelcomm.com> wrote:
I'd personally like to know some opinions on distros, being that I've been wanting to move FROM Ubuntu and TO CentOS for stability reasons. Ubuntu's packages update so frequently I'm afraid of newer libraries and such breaking FreeSwitch and/or the way things operate.
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Max Clark <max.clark@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all,
Recent developments (or absolute lack of) within the CentOS project and its perceived long term viability has forced an internal discussion to select a successor distribution. The most likely candidates at this point are Ubuntu and its LTS releases for servers, and Scientific Linux with the new 6.x releases. The pro/con lists for each are growing and the issue is complicated.
With CentOS 5.x being the reference distro for FreeSWITCH development I'm curious if this conversation has started among the FreeSWITCH developers, and if it has, what is the project leaning to for a successor distribution?
Thanks, Max
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Hi Dirk, Freeswitch wird weiterhin auf CentOS setzen, Max Clark ist lediglich ein Anwender. Aber offenbar, stören sich noch andere an der Release-Politik. Viele Grüße Jan Am 06.05.2011 16:25, schrieb Max Clark:
Hello all,
Recent developments (or absolute lack of) within the CentOS project and its perceived long term viability has forced an internal discussion to select a successor distribution. The most likely candidates at this point are Ubuntu and its LTS releases for servers, and Scientific Linux with the new 6.x releases. The pro/con lists for each are growing and the issue is complicated.
With CentOS 5.x being the reference distro for FreeSWITCH development I'm curious if this conversation has started among the FreeSWITCH developers, and if it has, what is the project leaning to for a successor distribution?
Thanks, Max
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Auf English bitte? Mein deutsch ist sehr sclecht und ich kann nicht verstehen On May 8, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Jan Riedinger <riedinger@sns.eu> wrote:
Hi Dirk,
Freeswitch wird weiterhin auf CentOS setzen, Max Clark ist lediglich ein Anwender. Aber offenbar, stören sich noch andere an der Release-Politik.
Viele Grüße Jan
Am 06.05.2011 16:25, schrieb Max Clark:
Hello all,
Recent developments (or absolute lack of) within the CentOS project and its perceived long term viability has forced an internal discussion to select a successor distribution. The most likely candidates at this point are Ubuntu and its LTS releases for servers, and Scientific Linux with the new 6.x releases. The pro/con lists for each are growing and the issue is complicated.
With CentOS 5.x being the reference distro for FreeSWITCH development I'm curious if this conversation has started among the FreeSWITCH developers, and if it has, what is the project leaning to for a successor distribution?
Thanks, Max
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It would be beneficial to the majority of the users if we continued this discussion in English On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 5:09 PM, <rhuddleston@gmail.com> wrote:
Auf English bitte? Mein deutsch ist sehr sclecht und ich kann nicht verstehen
On May 8, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Jan Riedinger <riedinger@sns.eu> wrote:
Hi Dirk,
Freeswitch wird weiterhin auf CentOS setzen, Max Clark ist lediglich ein Anwender. Aber offenbar, stören sich noch andere an der Release-Politik.
Viele Grüße Jan
Am 06.05.2011 16:25, schrieb Max Clark:
Hello all,
Recent developments (or absolute lack of) within the CentOS project and its perceived long term viability has forced an internal discussion to select a successor distribution. The most likely candidates at this point are Ubuntu and its LTS releases for servers, and Scientific Linux with the new 6.x releases. The pro/con lists for each are growing and the issue is complicated.
With CentOS 5.x being the reference distro for FreeSWITCH development I'm curious if this conversation has started among the FreeSWITCH developers, and if it has, what is the project leaning to for a successor distribution?
Thanks, Max
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bah, deutsch is beautiful language :) copy and paste in google translate, it makes miracles :D ----- Original Message ----- From: "curriegrad2004" <curriegrad2004@gmail.com> To: "FreeSWITCH Users Help" <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Moving on from CentOS
It would be beneficial to the majority of the users if we continued this discussion in English
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 5:09 PM, <rhuddleston@gmail.com> wrote:
Auf English bitte? Mein deutsch ist sehr sclecht und ich kann nicht verstehen
On May 8, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Jan Riedinger <riedinger@sns.eu> wrote:
Hi Dirk,
Freeswitch wird weiterhin auf CentOS setzen, Max Clark ist lediglich ein Anwender. Aber offenbar, stören sich noch andere an der Release-Politik.
Viele Grüße Jan
Am 06.05.2011 16:25, schrieb Max Clark:
Hello all,
Recent developments (or absolute lack of) within the CentOS project and its perceived long term viability has forced an internal discussion to select a successor distribution. The most likely candidates at this point are Ubuntu and its LTS releases for servers, and Scientific Linux with the new 6.x releases. The pro/con lists for each are growing and the issue is complicated.
With CentOS 5.x being the reference distro for FreeSWITCH development I'm curious if this conversation has started among the FreeSWITCH developers, and if it has, what is the project leaning to for a successor distribution?
Thanks, Max
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I guess Jan just wanted to explain. Sometimes its better to clear up things for people in their local language, don't you think ? Am 09.05.2011 06:01, schrieb curriegrad2004:
It would be beneficial to the majority of the users if we continued this discussion in English
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 5:09 PM, <rhuddleston@gmail.com> wrote:
Auf English bitte? Mein deutsch ist sehr sclecht und ich kann nicht verstehen
On May 8, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Jan Riedinger <riedinger@sns.eu> wrote:
Hi Dirk,
Freeswitch wird weiterhin auf CentOS setzen, Max Clark ist lediglich ein Anwender. Aber offenbar, stören sich noch andere an der Release-Politik.
Viele Grüße Jan
Am 06.05.2011 16:25, schrieb Max Clark:
Hello all,
Recent developments (or absolute lack of) within the CentOS project and its perceived long term viability has forced an internal discussion to select a successor distribution. The most likely candidates at this point are Ubuntu and its LTS releases for servers, and Scientific Linux with the new 6.x releases. The pro/con lists for each are growing and the issue is complicated.
With CentOS 5.x being the reference distro for FreeSWITCH development I'm curious if this conversation has started among the FreeSWITCH developers, and if it has, what is the project leaning to for a successor distribution?
Thanks, Max
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Using debian lenny and squeeze, it's boringly stable. Thinking of switching to Gentoo, Ubuntu, or LFS for some more fun. What's the worse distro for freeswitch? François. On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 08:07 +0200, Michal Bielicki wrote:
I guess Jan just wanted to explain. Sometimes its better to clear up things for people in their local language, don't you think ?
Am 09.05.2011 06:01, schrieb curriegrad2004:
It would be beneficial to the majority of the users if we continued this discussion in English
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 5:09 PM, <rhuddleston@gmail.com> wrote:
Auf English bitte? Mein deutsch ist sehr sclecht und ich kann nicht verstehen
On May 8, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Jan Riedinger <riedinger@sns.eu> wrote:
Hi Dirk,
Freeswitch wird weiterhin auf CentOS setzen, Max Clark ist lediglich ein Anwender. Aber offenbar, stören sich noch andere an der Release-Politik.
Viele Grüße Jan
Am 06.05.2011 16:25, schrieb Max Clark:
Hello all,
Recent developments (or absolute lack of) within the CentOS project and its perceived long term viability has forced an internal discussion to select a successor distribution. The most likely candidates at this point are Ubuntu and its LTS releases for servers, and Scientific Linux with the new 6.x releases. The pro/con lists for each are growing and the issue is complicated.
With CentOS 5.x being the reference distro for FreeSWITCH development I'm curious if this conversation has started among the FreeSWITCH developers, and if it has, what is the project leaning to for a successor distribution?
Thanks, Max
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There is no "worst" distro for freeswitch. It depends on how you are going to use FreeSwitch for, really. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:24 AM, François Delawarde <fdelawarde@wirelessmundi.com> wrote:
Using debian lenny and squeeze, it's boringly stable. Thinking of switching to Gentoo, Ubuntu, or LFS for some more fun. What's the worse distro for freeswitch?
François.
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 08:07 +0200, Michal Bielicki wrote:
I guess Jan just wanted to explain. Sometimes its better to clear up things for people in their local language, don't you think ?
Am 09.05.2011 06:01, schrieb curriegrad2004:
It would be beneficial to the majority of the users if we continued this discussion in English
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 5:09 PM, <rhuddleston@gmail.com> wrote:
Auf English bitte? Mein deutsch ist sehr sclecht und ich kann nicht verstehen
On May 8, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Jan Riedinger <riedinger@sns.eu> wrote:
Hi Dirk,
Freeswitch wird weiterhin auf CentOS setzen, Max Clark ist lediglich ein Anwender. Aber offenbar, stören sich noch andere an der Release-Politik.
Viele Grüße Jan
Am 06.05.2011 16:25, schrieb Max Clark:
Hello all,
Recent developments (or absolute lack of) within the CentOS project and its perceived long term viability has forced an internal discussion to select a successor distribution. The most likely candidates at this point are Ubuntu and its LTS releases for servers, and Scientific Linux with the new 6.x releases. The pro/con lists for each are growing and the issue is complicated.
With CentOS 5.x being the reference distro for FreeSWITCH development I'm curious if this conversation has started among the FreeSWITCH developers, and if it has, what is the project leaning to for a successor distribution?
Thanks, Max
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my official comment is: It will work anywhere it works. Anyone can do whatever they want but there is a limit to how much free support we will provide when doing things outside the parameters of our recommendations. The good news is that I think the newest kernels are getting over a dark time when timing was really bad as they tried to support more virtual environments. I have seen promising results on even ubuntu and arch linux on bleeding edge kernels. Centos 5.2-5.3 I can attest to being rock solid but a bit outdated. As time unfolds we will ultimately become more confident supporting other platforms when we have experts on those platforms willing to maintain packaging and do support therein. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org> wrote:
On 05/09/2011 10:38 PM, curriegrad2004 wrote:
There is no "worst" distro for freeswitch. It depends on how you are going to use FreeSwitch for, really. Nonsense. The distro I will take the longest to learn to install is *clearly* the worst distro. :-)
Steve
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Here is an excellent example when you may want Pro-Services and migrate from CentOS. http://www.nexenta.org/projects/site/wiki/WhyNexenta Unbuntu distro with Solaris Kernel and full instant access to ZFS, DTrace, Containers, Fault Management, 32/64-bits multiarch Why should I use Nexenta anyway? As we already learned, Nexenta is based on Ubuntu, with an OpenSolaris kernel (not unlike Debian GNU/kFreeBSD or Debian GNU/Hurd). So why should I use Nexenta, as Ubuntu is probably supported/used by more people, as is maybe more hardware? You should because it got outstanding, mainline, features. You won't have to patch your kernel or otherwise use unsupported features to get instant access to ZFS, DTrace, Containers, Fault Management, 32/64-bits multiarch, ... Plus, Solaris is known to be one of the best OS out there when it comes to multi-threading, which is great with today's CPUs with multiple cores and hardware threading (such as Intel HyperThreading or Sparc CMT). Outstanding Features Let's dig into more details about what Nexenta can bring you: ZFS: easy dynamic storage management (no SoftRAID + LVM + fs + mountpoints) of use disk capacities, reliably (COW, RAIDZ), fast, with snapshots (which also bring you system clones with rollback, usable as fail-safe upgrade paths, because of integration with your bootloader GRUB or OpenFirmware), deduplication and compression, Flash log devices (for best performances) DTrace: dynamic tracing of your software (want to diagnose about anything happening on your machine now or in a timely manner?) Containers: Linux Vserver made easy, simply put: a way to isolate processes Fault Management: SMF (replaces alltogether initscripts, inetd, and offers more features) and more 32/64-bits: Solaris is natively 32/64-bits for years, as is the Sparc architecture, historically its primary target platform Solaris' excellent multi-threading explains probably why it is considered in the following applications: Recommended OS for the Open Source Telephony Project Behaving exceptionally on high-performances Java multi-threaded applications On 5/9/11, Anthony Minessale <anthony.minessale@gmail.com> wrote:
my official comment is: It will work anywhere it works. Anyone can do whatever they want but there is a limit to how much free support we will provide when doing things outside the parameters of our recommendations.
The good news is that I think the newest kernels are getting over a dark time when timing was really bad as they tried to support more virtual environments. I have seen promising results on even ubuntu and arch linux on bleeding edge kernels. Centos 5.2-5.3 I can attest to being rock solid but a bit outdated. As time unfolds we will ultimately become more confident supporting other platforms when we have experts on those platforms willing to maintain packaging and do support therein.
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org> wrote:
On 05/09/2011 10:38 PM, curriegrad2004 wrote:
There is no "worst" distro for freeswitch. It depends on how you are going to use FreeSwitch for, really. Nonsense. The distro I will take the longest to learn to install is *clearly* the worst distro. :-)
Steve
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On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 22:47 +0800, Steve Underwood wrote:
On 05/09/2011 10:38 PM, curriegrad2004 wrote:
There is no "worst" distro for freeswitch. It depends on how you are going to use FreeSwitch for, really. Nonsense. The distro I will take the longest to learn to install is *clearly* the worst distro. :-)
Come on, give me names... Someone must have some horror story trying to install FS in some strange distro! François.
Sorry, I didn't want to sent my e-mail to the list, but forward it to a friend, who is a little bit distressed about the CentOS release policy as well. BR Jan Am 09.05.2011 08:07, schrieb Michal Bielicki:
I guess Jan just wanted to explain. Sometimes its better to clear up things for people in their local language, don't you think ?
Am 09.05.2011 06:01, schrieb curriegrad2004:
It would be beneficial to the majority of the users if we continued this discussion in English
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 5:09 PM,<rhuddleston@gmail.com> wrote:
Auf English bitte? Mein deutsch ist sehr sclecht und ich kann nicht verstehen
On May 8, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Jan Riedinger<riedinger@sns.eu> wrote:
Hi Dirk,
Freeswitch wird weiterhin auf CentOS setzen, Max Clark ist lediglich ein Anwender. Aber offenbar, stören sich noch andere an der Release-Politik.
Viele Grüße Jan
Am 06.05.2011 16:25, schrieb Max Clark:
Hello all,
Recent developments (or absolute lack of) within the CentOS project and its perceived long term viability has forced an internal discussion to select a successor distribution. The most likely candidates at this point are Ubuntu and its LTS releases for servers, and Scientific Linux with the new 6.x releases. The pro/con lists for each are growing and the issue is complicated.
With CentOS 5.x being the reference distro for FreeSWITCH development I'm curious if this conversation has started among the FreeSWITCH developers, and if it has, what is the project leaning to for a successor distribution?
Thanks, Max
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Anthony Minessale
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Brad Mina
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curriegrad2004
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EdPimentl
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François Delawarde
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Gavin Henry
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Jan Riedinger
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Ken Rice
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Madovsky
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Max Clark
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Michael Collins
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Michal Bielicki
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Mitch Capper
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Norman Tomlins
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Raul Fragoso
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rhuddleston＠gmail.com
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Roger Castaldo
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Steve Underwood