Thought I'd send this little hurrah! As there seems to have been a lot of negativity on this list lately.
From my point of view, having looked at many solutions out there, FS is still number one with regards to flexibility and performance. I cannot imagine doing what I'm using FS for, with any other product. Yes it's frustrating at times, but this is largely down to a lack documentation/samples.
So, if you have a solution to a problem, share it by adding an entry on the WIKI. Kudos to AM and all the other dev's, as someone said once 'Don't let the bastards grind you down' Regards,
Nik Middleton wrote:
I cannot imagine doing what I'm using FS for, with any other product. Yes it's frustrating at times, but this is largely down to a lack documentation/samples.
Speaking of which... would this layout be good for a book on Freeswitch? Preface 1. VoIP, Freeswitch, FS vs. Asterisk, softswitch vs. PBX, etc. 2. Choosing hardware options (server, phones, gateways) 3. Setting up FS 4. Configuring FS (SIP, profiles/contexts, VoIP providers, SIP/POTS gateways, etc.) 5. Administering FS (CLI and GUI) 6. Customizing dialplan (adding SIP accounts, voice-mail, etc.) 7. Performance, sound quality, other issues 8. Writing scripts (LUA, etc.), connecting to databases 9. Real-life examples (Gino's Pizza, etc.) Conclusion Index -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/FS-Rocks%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21-tp26708755p2671661... Sent from the Freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Looks good, but you've missed out billing and the key one, the event socket which could be a chapter in it's self. Do you have a publisher for it yet? Regards -----Original Message----- From: freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Fred-145 Sent: 09 December 2009 19:55 To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] FS Rocks!!!!!!!!! Nik Middleton wrote:
I cannot imagine doing what I'm using FS for, with any other product. Yes it's frustrating at times, but this is largely down to a lack documentation/samples.
Speaking of which... would this layout be good for a book on Freeswitch? Preface 1. VoIP, Freeswitch, FS vs. Asterisk, softswitch vs. PBX, etc. 2. Choosing hardware options (server, phones, gateways) 3. Setting up FS 4. Configuring FS (SIP, profiles/contexts, VoIP providers, SIP/POTS gateways, etc.) 5. Administering FS (CLI and GUI) 6. Customizing dialplan (adding SIP accounts, voice-mail, etc.) 7. Performance, sound quality, other issues 8. Writing scripts (LUA, etc.), connecting to databases 9. Real-life examples (Gino's Pizza, etc.) Conclusion Index -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/FS-Rocks%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21-tp26708755p267 16612.html Sent from the Freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
No publisher, although uploading and selling books (deadtree or online) is easy with companies like www.lulu.com I was just thinking of some way to learn FS gradually and effectively. The frequent problem with wiki's, is that the quality of articles is uneven and they don't have a good layout. But then, writing documentation is hard and time-consuming :-/ -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/FS-Rocks%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21-tp26708755p2672586... Sent from the Freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:40 AM, Fred-145 <codecomplete@free.fr> wrote:
No publisher, although uploading and selling books (deadtree or online) is easy with companies like www.lulu.com
I was just thinking of some way to learn FS gradually and effectively. The frequent problem with wiki's, is that the quality of articles is uneven and they don't have a good layout. But then, writing documentation is hard and time-consuming :-/
Amen, brothah! :) -MC
Use the BKW method... three to four word sentences to describe what to do... its very poetic! Or is that haiku? /b On Dec 10, 2009, at 11:53 AM, Michael Collins wrote:
I was just thinking of some way to learn FS gradually and effectively. The frequent problem with wiki's, is that the quality of articles is uneven and they don't have a good layout. But then, writing documentation is hard and time-consuming :-/
Amen, brothah! :) -MC
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:11 PM, David Knell <dave@3c.co.uk> wrote:
On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 10:26 -0800, Michael Collins wrote:
Update to latest Did you type make current yet? Tony hates build skew
Brilliant.
Michael Collins-san Shrinks all usual advice Into one Haiku.
--Dave
I love the wiki The docs are disorganized I hate the wiki -MC
Ok. The journey begins. http://makingfs.blogspot.com/ Don't know if you want to add this link to the website or wiki. Julian 2009/12/10 Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org>:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:11 PM, David Knell <dave@3c.co.uk> wrote:
On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 10:26 -0800, Michael Collins wrote:
Update to latest Did you type make current yet? Tony hates build skew
Brilliant.
Michael Collins-san Shrinks all usual advice Into one Haiku.
--Dave
I love the wiki The docs are disorganized I hate the wiki -MC
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On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Julian Lyndon-Smith <asterisk@dotr.com>wrote:
Ok. The journey begins.
Don't know if you want to add this link to the website or wiki.
Julian
Excellent work! Thanks, -MC
Asterisk deadlocked Why does it suck so badly? Use FreeSWITCH instead
Preface 1. VoIP, Freeswitch, FS vs. Asterisk, softswitch vs. PBX, etc. 2. Choosing hardware options (server, phones, gateways) 3. Setting up FS 4. Configuring FS (SIP, profiles/contexts, VoIP providers, SIP/POTS gateways, etc.) 5. Administering FS (CLI and GUI) 6. Customizing dialplan (adding SIP accounts, voice-mail, etc.) 7. Performance, sound quality, other issues 8. Writing scripts (LUA, etc.), connecting to databases 9. Real-life examples (Gino's Pizza, etc.) Conclusion Index --
I found the rosetta stone useful though woefully lacking in volume. I guess that's true overall with the project.
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Visit the friday meetings and we can help if you document it. ;)
I would be willing to lend a hand with the documentation but I know so little (a complete freeswitch noob). For example I was trying to figure out how to tell if an extension was set up "show dialplan in asterisk". I could not find this anywhere. If I find out I would be happy to add it to the rosetta stone. I am currently working on getting outbound socket working. Once I get it going I would be happy to add it to the relevant section of the wiki (in this case ruby).
That is what is nice about our community I'm more than willing to answer the questions if you document them... as are many others in the core team...we just have a lot to do and I think the best repayment is documentation! ;) /b On Dec 9, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Tim Uckun wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Visit the friday meetings and we can help if you document it. ;)
I would be willing to lend a hand with the documentation but I know so little (a complete freeswitch noob). For example I was trying to figure out how to tell if an extension was set up "show dialplan in asterisk". I could not find this anywhere. If I find out I would be happy to add it to the rosetta stone.
I am currently working on getting outbound socket working. Once I get it going I would be happy to add it to the relevant section of the wiki (in this case ruby).
Sometime next week I hopefully am going to start a document that follows my progress in setting up a FS system from scratch, with all the pitfalls and successes. A kinds of "warts and all" story. Alongside this "blog" (for want of a better word) I will also then document the steps needed to get it working (a howto guide, effectively). I am a long time * user (2004), so my mindset is kind of skewed - but perhaps that would be beneficial for other * users looking at implementing FS. Most of our config and dialplan is generated by using res_config_curl, and we use things like call listening, conferencing, parking and queues. We do use queues in a slightly odd manner (we add 1 agent, and call a local channel). When this channels is called, we use curl to get our application to return the most appropriate agent to actually call). We also use * as a power dialler, making upwards of 400,000 call attempts per month. Not massive, but not tiny either. Hopefully, this will be of use to both FS and * users. What would be great is that if other people follow my progress, and make suggestions as and when I hit a brick wall :) What would be best for this ? A blog ? Or a wiki page ? Julian 2009/12/9 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
That is what is nice about our community I'm more than willing to answer the questions if you document them... as are many others in the core team...we just have a lot to do and I think the best repayment is documentation! ;) /b On Dec 9, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Tim Uckun wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Visit the friday meetings and we can help if you document it. ;)
I would be willing to lend a hand with the documentation but I know so little (a complete freeswitch noob). For example I was trying to figure out how to tell if an extension was set up "show dialplan in asterisk". I could not find this anywhere. If I find out I would be happy to add it to the rosetta stone.
I am currently working on getting outbound socket working. Once I get it going I would be happy to add it to the relevant section of the wiki (in this case ruby).
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Don't worry. I was an asterisk developer/volunteer in 2003. I still managed to figure it out. ;) On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Julian Lyndon-Smith <asterisk@dotr.com>wrote:
Sometime next week I hopefully am going to start a document that follows my progress in setting up a FS system from scratch, with all the pitfalls and successes. A kinds of "warts and all" story. Alongside this "blog" (for want of a better word) I will also then document the steps needed to get it working (a howto guide, effectively).
I am a long time * user (2004), so my mindset is kind of skewed - but perhaps that would be beneficial for other * users looking at implementing FS.
Most of our config and dialplan is generated by using res_config_curl, and we use things like call listening, conferencing, parking and queues. We do use queues in a slightly odd manner (we add 1 agent, and call a local channel). When this channels is called, we use curl to get our application to return the most appropriate agent to actually call).
We also use * as a power dialler, making upwards of 400,000 call attempts per month. Not massive, but not tiny either.
Hopefully, this will be of use to both FS and * users. What would be great is that if other people follow my progress, and make suggestions as and when I hit a brick wall :)
What would be best for this ? A blog ? Or a wiki page ?
Julian
2009/12/9 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>:
That is what is nice about our community I'm more than willing to answer the questions if you document them... as are many others in the core team...we just have a lot to do and I think the best repayment is documentation! ;) /b On Dec 9, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Tim Uckun wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
Visit the friday meetings and we can help if you document it. ;)
I would be willing to lend a hand with the documentation but I know so little (a complete freeswitch noob). For example I was trying to figure out how to tell if an extension was set up "show dialplan in asterisk". I could not find this anywhere. If I find out I would be happy to add it to the rosetta stone.
I am currently working on getting outbound socket working. Once I get it going I would be happy to add it to the relevant section of the wiki (in this case ruby).
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On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Julian Lyndon-Smith <asterisk@dotr.com>wrote:
Sometime next week I hopefully am going to start a document that follows my progress in setting up a FS system from scratch, with all the pitfalls and successes. A kinds of "warts and all" story. Alongside this "blog" (for want of a better word) I will also then document the steps needed to get it working (a howto guide, effectively).
I am a long time * user (2004), so my mindset is kind of skewed - but perhaps that would be beneficial for other * users looking at implementing FS.
Most of our config and dialplan is generated by using res_config_curl, and we use things like call listening, conferencing, parking and queues. We do use queues in a slightly odd manner (we add 1 agent, and call a local channel). When this channels is called, we use curl to get our application to return the most appropriate agent to actually call).
We also use * as a power dialler, making upwards of 400,000 call attempts per month. Not massive, but not tiny either.
Hopefully, this will be of use to both FS and * users. What would be great is that if other people follow my progress, and make suggestions as and when I hit a brick wall :)
What would be best for this ? A blog ? Or a wiki page ?
Julian, First off, welcome to the FreeSWITCH fold! Thank you for your willingness not only to try things but to document them as well. I like the idea of a blog to tell the story. After you're done then you might consider a wiki page that is more of "just the facts, ma'am" on how you translated Asterisk configs to a FreeSWITCH setup. Feel free to ask myself or anyone here or on IRC for assistance. -MC (IRC: mercutioviz)
I found the rosetta stone useful though woefully lacking in volume.
I guess that's true overall with the project.
Documentation is neither easy nor glamorous. The woefully lacking documentation has been provided by a little group of people who've done a big bit of documenting and a big group of people who've done a little bit of documenting. If ever there was an aspect of this project that could use more volunteers it is documentation and bug testing.
If anyone wants to help on either of these fronts please email me off list. -MC
participants (8)
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Anthony Minessale
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Brian West
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David Knell
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Fred-145
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Julian Lyndon-Smith
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Michael Collins
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Nik Middleton
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Tim Uckun