Hi my FreeSWITCH friends Today we talked about FreeSWITCH libraries and we found pjsip, which is a lot better than sofia, it can do everything sofia can do and more, it's thread-safe and performs well, I would love to see a mod_pjsip. The library is GPL but they also offer alternative licensing, don't get me wrong, Sofia is great but I think FreeSWITCH will benefit from a thread-safe SIP library. don't say that i need some stuf for free, but we need to make fs a very also we love freeswitch to run in a Embedded PC like the blackfin CPU/boards, Pjsip is very good for Embedded SIP Devicesawesome Open Source project With much love, DelphiWorld____ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4539 (20091024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4539 (20091024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4539 (20091024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
This is pretty interesting, is sofia thread safe as well? Diego On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi my FreeSWITCH friends Today we talked about FreeSWITCH libraries and we found pjsip, which is a lot better than sofia, it can do everything sofia can do and more, it's thread-safe and performs well, I would love to see a mod_pjsip. The library is GPL but they also offer alternative licensing, don't get me wrong, Sofia is great but I think FreeSWITCH will benefit from a thread-safe SIP library. don't say that i need some stuf for free, but we need to make fs a very also we love freeswitch to run in a Embedded PC like the blackfin CPU/boards, Pjsip is very good for Embedded SIP Devicesawesome Open Source project With much love, DelphiWorld____ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4539 (20091024) __________
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I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable for FS at this time. -MV Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi my FreeSWITCH friends Today we talked about FreeSWITCH libraries and we found pjsip, which is a lot better than sofia, it can do everything sofia can do and more, it's thread-safe and performs well, I would love to see a mod_pjsip. The library is GPL but they also offer alternative licensing, don't get me wrong, Sofia is great but I think FreeSWITCH will benefit from a thread-safe SIP library. don't say that i need some stuf for free, but we need to make fs a very also we love freeswitch to run in a Embedded PC like the blackfin CPU/boards, Pjsip is very good for Embedded SIP Devicesawesome Open Source project With much love, DelphiWorld____ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4539 (20091024) __________
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Michael S Collins wrote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable for FS at this time.
-MV
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We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs): [License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms] Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib). A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers). And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped. stkn
hi, Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN! to STKN: if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Michael S Collins wrote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable for FS at this time.
-MV
Sent from my iPhone
We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs):
[License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms]
Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib).
A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers).
And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped.
stkn
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Meftah Tayeb wrote:
hi, Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN! to STKN: if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal
Huh? In which part did i tell people to stop doing whatever they want with pjsip? In my last email or on IRC? I'm merely pointing out the reasons why mod_pjsip was abandoned by the core team 3 years ago (so some of the points may have been fixed in the meantime). If somebody feels the need to resurrect it, well, please do. But don't expect Tony or anyone else from the core team to do that for you. This is OpenSource after all... stkn
Meftah, He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>wrote:
hi, Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN! to STKN: if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Michael S Collins wrote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable for FS at this time.
-MV
Sent from my iPhone
We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs):
[License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms]
Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib).
A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers).
And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped.
stkn
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hi Anthony i agry i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions. about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib. thanks Anthony Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah,
He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi, Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN! to STKN: if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Michael S Collins wrote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable for FS at this time.
-MV
Sent from my iPhone
We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs): [License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms] Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib). A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers). And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped. stkn _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
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Meftah, Feel free. P.S. STKN was the guy who made the first mod_pjsip for FS that we abandoned years ago. So you should believe him. Both him and I agreed it was not working out. So if you don't believe me, find out for yourself. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>wrote:
hi Anthony i agry i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions. about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib. thanks Anthony Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah,
He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>wrote:
hi, Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN! to STKN: if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Michael S Collins wrote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable for FS at this time.
-MV
Sent from my iPhone
We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs):
[License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms]
Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib).
A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers).
And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped.
stkn
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Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah, Feel free.
thanks
P.S.
STKN was the guy who made the first mod_pjsip for FS that we abandoned years ago. So you should believe him. Both him and I agreed it was not working out. So if you don't believe me, find out for yourself. anthony, why i don't believe you? never say that. i believe you and all Freeswitch Staf and thank you and to all Freeswitch Staf.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi Anthony i agry i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions. about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib. thanks Anthony Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah,
He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi, Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN! to STKN: if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Michael S Collins wrote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable for FS at this time.
-MV
Sent from my iPhone
We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs): [License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms] Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib). A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers). And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped. stkn _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
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My favorite part of this 'civilized' discussion on IRC was when DelphiWord and diegoviola sat around tryin to take the piss outta stkn on this issue for seemingly no reason. Thanks for making the channel a cool place, guys ;) On October 31, 2009 07:32:03 pm Meftah Tayeb wrote:
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah, Feel free.
thanks
P.S.
STKN was the guy who made the first mod_pjsip for FS that we abandoned years ago. So you should believe him. Both him and I agreed it was not working out. So if you don't believe me, find out for yourself. anthony, why i don't believe you?
never say that. i believe you and all Freeswitch Staf and thank you and to all Freeswitch Staf.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi Anthony i agry i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions. about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib. thanks Anthony
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah,
He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi, Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN! to STKN: if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal
Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Michael S Collins wrote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable for FS at this time.
-MV
Sent from my iPhone
We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs): [License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms] Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib). A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers). And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped. stkn _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users
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Don't put me on the same leval as DelphiWorld please, I was just curious about how this SIP stack compares to sofia. Diego On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Chris Burns <chris@cloudtel.com> wrote:
My favorite part of this 'civilized' discussion on IRC was when DelphiWord and diegoviola sat around tryin to take the piss outta stkn on this issue for seemingly no reason. Thanks for making the channel a cool place, guys ;)
On October 31, 2009 07:32:03 pm Meftah Tayeb wrote:
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah, Feel free.
thanks
P.S.
STKN was the guy who made the first mod_pjsip for FS that we abandoned years ago. So you should believe him. Both him and I agreed it was not working out. So if you don't believe me, find out for yourself. anthony, why i don't believe you?
never say that. i believe you and all Freeswitch Staf and thank you and to all Freeswitch Staf.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi Anthony i agry i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions. about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib. thanks Anthony
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah,
He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi, Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN! to STKN: if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal
Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Michael S Collins wrote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable for FS at this time.
-MV
Sent from my iPhone
We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs): [License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms] Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib). A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers). And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped. stkn _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users
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On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't put me on the same leval as DelphiWorld please, I was just curious about how this SIP stack compares to sofia.
Smile Diego, smile. We're all just jocking! :) -gm
Diego
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Chris Burns <chris@cloudtel.com> wrote:
My favorite part of this 'civilized' discussion on IRC was when DelphiWord and diegoviola sat around tryin to take the piss outta stkn on this issue for seemingly no reason. Thanks for making the channel a cool place, guys ;)
On October 31, 2009 07:32:03 pm Meftah Tayeb wrote:
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah, Feel free.
thanks
P.S.
STKN was the guy who made the first mod_pjsip for FS that we abandoned years ago. So you should believe him. Both him and I agreed it was not working out. So if you don't believe me, find out for yourself. anthony, why i don't believe you?
never say that. i believe you and all Freeswitch Staf and thank you and to all Freeswitch Staf.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi Anthony i agry i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions. about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib. thanks Anthony
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah,
He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi, Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN! to STKN: if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal
Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Michael S Collins wrote: > I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If > it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact > that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't > suitable for FS at this time. > > -MV > > Sent from my iPhone
We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs): [License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms] Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib). A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers). And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped. stkn _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users
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On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't put me on the same leval as DelphiWorld please, I was just curious about how this SIP stack compares to sofia.
Smile Diego, smile. We're all just jocking! :)
-gm
Diego
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Chris Burns <chris@cloudtel.com> wrote:
My favorite part of this 'civilized' discussion on IRC was when DelphiWord and diegoviola sat around tryin to take the piss outta stkn on this issue for seemingly no reason. Thanks for making the channel a cool place, guys ;)
On October 31, 2009 07:32:03 pm Meftah Tayeb wrote:
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah, Feel free.
thanks
P.S.
STKN was the guy who made the first mod_pjsip for FS that we abandoned years ago. So you should believe him. Both him and I agreed it was not working out. So if you don't believe me, find out for yourself. anthony, why i don't believe you?
never say that. i believe you and all Freeswitch Staf and thank you and to all Freeswitch Staf.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi Anthony i agry i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions. about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib. thanks Anthony
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah,
He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi, Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN! to STKN: if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal
Stefan Knoblich a écrit : > Michael S Collins wrote: >> I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If >> it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact >> that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't >> suitable for FS at this time. >> >> -MV >> >> Sent from my iPhone > > We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get > dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two > from old IRC logs): [License incompatible (GPL), but i think > tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms] Not > possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global > variables being used in the lib). A race-condition under > high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the > help of the pjsip developers). And the sofia module "just > working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts > were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped. stkn > _______________________________________________ > FreeSWITCH-users mailing list > FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org > <mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org> > http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users > > UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-user >s http://www.freeswitch.org > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of > virus signature database 4539 (20091024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com
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hi diego, what you mean? so my level is nothing? my level is bad? my level is zero? thank to gmaruzz/MikeJ that understand me quickly/easyly Diego Viola a écrit :
Don't put me on the same leval as DelphiWorld please, I was just curious about how this SIP stack compares to sofia.
Diego
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Chris Burns <chris@cloudtel.com> wrote:
My favorite part of this 'civilized' discussion on IRC was when DelphiWord and diegoviola sat around tryin to take the piss outta stkn on this issue for seemingly no reason. Thanks for making the channel a cool place, guys ;)
On October 31, 2009 07:32:03 pm Meftah Tayeb wrote:
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah, Feel free.
thanks
P.S.
STKN was the guy who made the first mod_pjsip for FS that we abandoned years ago. So you should believe him. Both him and I agreed it was not working out. So if you don't believe me, find out for yourself. anthony, why i don't believe you?
never say that. i believe you and all Freeswitch Staf and thank you and to all Freeswitch Staf.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi Anthony i agry i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions. about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib. thanks Anthony
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah,
He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi, Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN! to STKN: if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal
Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Michael S Collins wrote:
> I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If > it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact > that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't > suitable for FS at this time. > > -MV > > Sent from my iPhone > We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs): [License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms] Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib). A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers). And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped. stkn _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users
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Hi Meftah, No, of course is not, and it will never be, I actually quite admire how you are able to do what you do. I just wanted to say that I don't want people to put me into this problem, because I don't have anything to do with it, I was just curious about how pjsip compares to sofia, etc. That's all. Apologies if I didn't expressed myself correctly. Regards, Diego On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com> wrote:
hi diego, what you mean? so my level is nothing? my level is bad? my level is zero? thank to gmaruzz/MikeJ that understand me quickly/easyly Diego Viola a écrit :
Don't put me on the same leval as DelphiWorld please, I was just curious about how this SIP stack compares to sofia.
Diego
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Chris Burns <chris@cloudtel.com> wrote:
My favorite part of this 'civilized' discussion on IRC was when DelphiWord and diegoviola sat around tryin to take the piss outta stkn on this issue for seemingly no reason. Thanks for making the channel a cool place, guys ;)
On October 31, 2009 07:32:03 pm Meftah Tayeb wrote:
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah, Feel free.
thanks
P.S.
STKN was the guy who made the first mod_pjsip for FS that we abandoned years ago. So you should believe him. Both him and I agreed it was not working out. So if you don't believe me, find out for yourself. anthony, why i don't believe you?
never say that. i believe you and all Freeswitch Staf and thank you and to all Freeswitch Staf.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi Anthony i agry i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions. about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib. thanks Anthony
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah,
He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi, Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN! to STKN: if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal
Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Michael S Collins wrote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable for FS at this time.
-MV
Sent from my iPhone
We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs): [License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms] Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib). A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers). And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped. stkn _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users
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I never said your level is bad or anything, I just said that I don't want people to involve me into that problem. Diego On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Meftah,
No, of course is not, and it will never be, I actually quite admire how you are able to do what you do.
I just wanted to say that I don't want people to put me into this problem, because I don't have anything to do with it, I was just curious about how pjsip compares to sofia, etc. That's all.
Apologies if I didn't expressed myself correctly.
Regards,
Diego
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com> wrote:
hi diego, what you mean? so my level is nothing? my level is bad? my level is zero? thank to gmaruzz/MikeJ that understand me quickly/easyly Diego Viola a écrit :
Don't put me on the same leval as DelphiWorld please, I was just curious about how this SIP stack compares to sofia.
Diego
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Chris Burns <chris@cloudtel.com> wrote:
My favorite part of this 'civilized' discussion on IRC was when DelphiWord and diegoviola sat around tryin to take the piss outta stkn on this issue for seemingly no reason. Thanks for making the channel a cool place, guys ;)
On October 31, 2009 07:32:03 pm Meftah Tayeb wrote:
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah, Feel free.
thanks
P.S.
STKN was the guy who made the first mod_pjsip for FS that we abandoned years ago. So you should believe him. Both him and I agreed it was not working out. So if you don't believe me, find out for yourself. anthony, why i don't believe you?
never say that. i believe you and all Freeswitch Staf and thank you and to all Freeswitch Staf.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi Anthony i agry i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions. about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib. thanks Anthony
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah,
He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi, Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN! to STKN: if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal
Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Michael S Collins wrote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable for FS at this time.
-MV
Sent from my iPhone
We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs): [License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms] Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib). A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers). And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped. stkn _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users
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Meftah and Diego, If you continue to argue on our mailing lists I will be forced to moderate you to stop you from bothering other people. I do not want to see one more reply to this thread from either of you. Please do not reply to apologize, simply stop sending any more email to this topic. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
I never said your level is bad or anything, I just said that I don't want people to involve me into that problem.
Diego
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Meftah,
No, of course is not, and it will never be, I actually quite admire how you are able to do what you do.
I just wanted to say that I don't want people to put me into this problem, because I don't have anything to do with it, I was just curious about how pjsip compares to sofia, etc. That's all.
Apologies if I didn't expressed myself correctly.
Regards,
Diego
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com> wrote:
hi diego, what you mean? so my level is nothing? my level is bad? my level is zero? thank to gmaruzz/MikeJ that understand me quickly/easyly Diego Viola a écrit :
Don't put me on the same leval as DelphiWorld please, I was just curious about how this SIP stack compares to sofia.
Diego
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Chris Burns <chris@cloudtel.com> wrote:
My favorite part of this 'civilized' discussion on IRC was when DelphiWord and diegoviola sat around tryin to take the piss outta stkn on this issue for seemingly no reason. Thanks for making the channel a cool place, guys ;)
On October 31, 2009 07:32:03 pm Meftah Tayeb wrote:
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah, Feel free.
thanks
P.S.
STKN was the guy who made the first mod_pjsip for FS that we abandoned years ago. So you should believe him. Both him and I agreed it was not working out. So if you don't believe me, find out for yourself. anthony, why i don't believe you?
never say that. i believe you and all Freeswitch Staf and thank you and to all Freeswitch Staf.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi Anthony i agry i say that because STKN hate all my suggestions. about pjsip, i will contribute aditional module in the contrib. thanks Anthony
Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah,
He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi, Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN! to STKN: if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal
Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Michael S Collins wrote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable for FS at this time.
-MV
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We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs): [License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms] Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib). A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers). And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped. stkn _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users
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hello anthony we are realy sory about this subject "Ok, I apologize, I really love you and respect you, and I believe you" i will drop it from now. Anthony Minessale a écrit :
Meftah,
He is 100% correct. Please do not insult my volunteer developers. Without help from him you would not have any FreeSWITCH right now so please drop this subject we are not using pjsip.
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Meftah Tayeb <tayeb.meftah@gmail.com <mailto:tayeb.meftah@gmail.com>> wrote:
hi, Pjsip support ICE, STUN and TURN! to STKN: if you don't pjsip, please stop talking or exit the discution we want to kype Freeswitch Clean and universal Stefan Knoblich a écrit :
Michael S Collins wrote:
I can guarantee that the FS devs are well aware of pj-sip. If it was/ is a viable alternative then it would be considered. The fact that it isn't being used is a pretty good indication that it isn't suitable for FS at this time.
-MV
Sent from my iPhone
We already mentioned some of the reasons why it did get dropped 3 years ago (first two points from memory, last two from old IRC logs): [License incompatible (GPL), but i think tony tried to negotiate on alternate license terms] Not possible to have multiple SIP profiles (due to global variables being used in the lib). A race-condition under high load, that couldn't be resolved back then (with the help of the pjsip developers). And the sofia module "just working" and surviving the scalability tests, so all efforts were focussed on mod_sofia and pjsip got dropped. stkn _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
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As the other reasons have already been covered about the history of mod_pjsip, I'll just make a few comments here: If someone is really interested in resurecting mod_pjsip, the code is around here somewhere (although I can't find it on my quick look). Just let us know. The licensing is not really an issue, that was resolved long ago. There is no major thread safety issue in sofia. There are some minor issues which we easily address in the module and an interest in thread pooling, which would increase performance. pjsip and sofia always performed quite similar to each other, they are both quite good sip libraries We had extensive thread safety and race condition issues in pjsip that never got resolved while we were using it. It is quite possible they have been fixed sense, but many months were spent trying to fix them to no success. We already support ice in the freeswitch rtp stack. A sip stack supporting ice and turn does little for us and would be the worst way to implement it in freeswitch. Sofia already supports sdp parsing for all of this, if you are interested in ICE/TURN support in freeswitch, it needs to be done in the RTP stack mostly, regardless of which sip stack. Sofia has been shown to run well already in embedded environments. Mike On Oct 31, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Meftah Tayeb wrote:
Hi my FreeSWITCH friends Today we talked about FreeSWITCH libraries and we found pjsip, which is a lot better than sofia, it can do everything sofia can do and more, it's thread-safe and performs well, I would love to see a mod_pjsip. The library is GPL but they also offer alternative licensing, don't get me wrong, Sofia is great but I think FreeSWITCH will benefit from a thread-safe SIP library. don't say that i need some stuf for free, but we need to make fs a very also we love freeswitch to run in a Embedded PC like the blackfin CPU/boards, Pjsip is very good for Embedded SIP Devicesawesome Open Source project With much love,
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Anthony Minessale
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Chris Burns
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Diego Viola
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Giovanni Maruzzelli
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Meftah Tayeb
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Michael Jerris
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Michael S Collins
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Stefan Knoblich