I wondered if this http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit will help making mod_skypopen more useable. Has any FS developers here gotten a chance to take a look at http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit and tries to incorporate into FS for mod_skypopen to replace the need for a Skype client? ----- FreeSWITCH hosted on a Seagate DockStar with OpenWRT. -- View this message in context: http://freeswitch-users.2379917.n2.nabble.com/SkypeKit-for-mo-skyopen-tp6340... Sent from the freeswitch-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, mazilo <Nabble@slickdeals.endjunk.com> wrote:
I wondered if this http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit will help making mod_skypopen more useable. Has any FS developers here gotten a chance to take a look at http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit and tries to incorporate into FS for mod_skypopen to replace the need for a Skype client?
Seems very difficult to have that kit. I (and others) have asked for it, without success. Btw, I had a deep discussion with another developer (outside FS community) with access to that kit, and we concurred it's not usable for our purpose. It's tageted to single call, for embedded devices usage (we need multiple concurrent calls for FS). -giovanni -- Sincerely, Giovanni Maruzzelli Cell : +39-347-2665618
Skype sucks, they are scared ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giovanni Maruzzelli" <gmaruzz@gmail.com> To: "FreeSWITCH Users Help" <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] SkypeKit for mo_skyopen? On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, mazilo <Nabble@slickdeals.endjunk.com> wrote:
I wondered if this http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit will help making mod_skypopen more useable. Has any FS developers here gotten a chance to take a look at http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit and tries to incorporate into FS for mod_skypopen to replace the need for a Skype client?
Seems very difficult to have that kit. I (and others) have asked for it, without success. Btw, I had a deep discussion with another developer (outside FS community) with access to that kit, and we concurred it's not usable for our purpose. It's tageted to single call, for embedded devices usage (we need multiple concurrent calls for FS). -giovanni -- Sincerely, Giovanni Maruzzelli Cell : +39-347-2665618 _______________________________________________ FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
Giovanni, Respect guru!!. Why FreeSWITCH, server is not a embedded server to Skype theory/logic? If we put FreeSwitch in ATOM or ARM or 64 bit server, its not embedded? What is there definition of embedded? Skype really is a crazy company, underestimate FreeSwitch and your knowledge (you did genius job, job well done). Reg Shamun On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@gmail.com>wrote:
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, mazilo <Nabble@slickdeals.endjunk.com> wrote:
I wondered if this http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit will help making mod_skypopen more useable. Has any FS developers here gotten a chance to take a look at http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit and tries to incorporate into FS for mod_skypopen to replace the need for a Skype client?
Seems very difficult to have that kit. I (and others) have asked for it, without success. Btw, I had a deep discussion with another developer (outside FS community) with access to that kit, and we concurred it's not usable for our purpose. It's tageted to single call, for embedded devices usage (we need multiple concurrent calls for FS).
-giovanni -- Sincerely,
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It's a world of money. They want to control how you call, where you call. If there will be a free software which will implement skype calls, in large scale, using native methods... it will go out of their control. They a still bulb, and they want to put as much air into the bulb as possible... FS pierce holes in their bulb... ;) 2011/5/9 Shamun <shamun.toha@gmail.com>:
Giovanni, Respect guru!!. Why FreeSWITCH, server is not a embedded server to Skype theory/logic? If we put FreeSwitch in ATOM or ARM or 64 bit server, its not embedded? What is there definition of embedded? Skype really is a crazy company, underestimate FreeSwitch and your knowledge (you did genius job, job well done). Reg Shamun
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On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, mazilo <Nabble@slickdeals.endjunk.com> wrote:
I wondered if this http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit will help making mod_skypopen more useable. Has any FS developers here gotten a chance to take a look at http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit and tries to incorporate into FS for mod_skypopen to replace the need for a Skype client?
Seems very difficult to have that kit. I (and others) have asked for it, without success. Btw, I had a deep discussion with another developer (outside FS community) with access to that kit, and we concurred it's not usable for our purpose. It's tageted to single call, for embedded devices usage (we need multiple concurrent calls for FS).
-giovanni -- Sincerely,
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but.... Skype use open source for their APIs, isn't it ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anton VG" <anton.vazir@gmail.com> To: "FreeSWITCH Users Help" <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:36 AM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] SkypeKit for mo_skyopen? It's a world of money. They want to control how you call, where you call. If there will be a free software which will implement skype calls, in large scale, using native methods... it will go out of their control. They a still bulb, and they want to put as much air into the bulb as possible... FS pierce holes in their bulb... ;) 2011/5/9 Shamun <shamun.toha@gmail.com>:
Giovanni, Respect guru!!. Why FreeSWITCH, server is not a embedded server to Skype theory/logic? If we put FreeSwitch in ATOM or ARM or 64 bit server, its not embedded? What is there definition of embedded? Skype really is a crazy company, underestimate FreeSwitch and your knowledge (you did genius job, job well done). Reg Shamun
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, mazilo <Nabble@slickdeals.endjunk.com> wrote:
I wondered if this http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit will help making mod_skypopen more useable. Has any FS developers here gotten a chance to take a look at http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit and tries to incorporate into FS for mod_skypopen to replace the need for a Skype client?
Seems very difficult to have that kit. I (and others) have asked for it, without success. Btw, I had a deep discussion with another developer (outside FS community) with access to that kit, and we concurred it's not usable for our purpose. It's tageted to single call, for embedded devices usage (we need multiple concurrent calls for FS).
-giovanni -- Sincerely,
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A lot of commercial companies use OSS for almost everything. I build a whole ISP with OSS including routers/voip/fixed telephony/billing/NASes/BRASes in our small country. Everything except l2/l3 switches runing OSS. Just because i have no funds to buy CISCO/HUAWEI/etc, so using OSS in the core changes nothing, and not makes company releasing everything OSS. Whatever Skype writes, what they want free calls for everyone, bla bla bla, They just looking for a way to enter hardware market deeper than just usb hand/head sets this time, nothing else. 2011/5/9 Madovsky <infos@madovsky.org>:
but.... Skype use open source for their APIs, isn't it ?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Anton VG" <anton.vazir@gmail.com> To: "FreeSWITCH Users Help" <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:36 AM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] SkypeKit for mo_skyopen?
It's a world of money. They want to control how you call, where you call. If there will be a free software which will implement skype calls, in large scale, using native methods... it will go out of their control. They a still bulb, and they want to put as much air into the bulb as possible... FS pierce holes in their bulb... ;)
2011/5/9 Shamun <shamun.toha@gmail.com>:
Giovanni, Respect guru!!. Why FreeSWITCH, server is not a embedded server to Skype theory/logic? If we put FreeSwitch in ATOM or ARM or 64 bit server, its not embedded? What is there definition of embedded? Skype really is a crazy company, underestimate FreeSwitch and your knowledge (you did genius job, job well done). Reg Shamun
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, mazilo <Nabble@slickdeals.endjunk.com> wrote:
I wondered if this http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit will help making mod_skypopen more useable. Has any FS developers here gotten a chance to take a look at http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit and tries to incorporate into FS for mod_skypopen to replace the need for a Skype client?
Seems very difficult to have that kit. I (and others) have asked for it, without success. Btw, I had a deep discussion with another developer (outside FS community) with access to that kit, and we concurred it's not usable for our purpose. It's tageted to single call, for embedded devices usage (we need multiple concurrent calls for FS).
-giovanni -- Sincerely,
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sure, but I meant that if their protocols are open source, so they have to share with equity and without any restrictions but the licence itself... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anton VG" <anton.vazir@gmail.com> To: "FreeSWITCH Users Help" <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] SkypeKit for mo_skyopen?
A lot of commercial companies use OSS for almost everything. I build a whole ISP with OSS including routers/voip/fixed telephony/billing/NASes/BRASes in our small country. Everything except l2/l3 switches runing OSS. Just because i have no funds to buy CISCO/HUAWEI/etc, so using OSS in the core changes nothing, and not makes company releasing everything OSS. Whatever Skype writes, what they want free calls for everyone, bla bla bla, They just looking for a way to enter hardware market deeper than just usb hand/head sets this time, nothing else.
2011/5/9 Madovsky <infos@madovsky.org>:
but.... Skype use open source for their APIs, isn't it ?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Anton VG" <anton.vazir@gmail.com> To: "FreeSWITCH Users Help" <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:36 AM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] SkypeKit for mo_skyopen?
It's a world of money. They want to control how you call, where you call. If there will be a free software which will implement skype calls, in large scale, using native methods... it will go out of their control. They a still bulb, and they want to put as much air into the bulb as possible... FS pierce holes in their bulb... ;)
2011/5/9 Shamun <shamun.toha@gmail.com>:
Giovanni, Respect guru!!. Why FreeSWITCH, server is not a embedded server to Skype theory/logic? If we put FreeSwitch in ATOM or ARM or 64 bit server, its not embedded? What is there definition of embedded? Skype really is a crazy company, underestimate FreeSwitch and your knowledge (you did genius job, job well done). Reg Shamun
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, mazilo <Nabble@slickdeals.endjunk.com> wrote:
I wondered if this http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit will help making mod_skypopen more useable. Has any FS developers here gotten a chance to take a look at http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit and tries to incorporate into FS for mod_skypopen to replace the need for a Skype client?
Seems very difficult to have that kit. I (and others) have asked for it, without success. Btw, I had a deep discussion with another developer (outside FS community) with access to that kit, and we concurred it's not usable for our purpose. It's tageted to single call, for embedded devices usage (we need multiple concurrent calls for FS).
-giovanni -- Sincerely,
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Their protocol is not at all open source, it' proprietary and completely close. They piblished an API to control the skypeclient, thatps all. -giovanni On 5/9/11, Madovsky <infos@madovsky.org> wrote:
sure, but I meant that if their protocols are open source, so they have to share with equity and without any restrictions but the licence itself...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Anton VG" <anton.vazir@gmail.com> To: "FreeSWITCH Users Help" <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] SkypeKit for mo_skyopen?
A lot of commercial companies use OSS for almost everything. I build a whole ISP with OSS including routers/voip/fixed telephony/billing/NASes/BRASes in our small country. Everything except l2/l3 switches runing OSS. Just because i have no funds to buy CISCO/HUAWEI/etc, so using OSS in the core changes nothing, and not makes company releasing everything OSS. Whatever Skype writes, what they want free calls for everyone, bla bla bla, They just looking for a way to enter hardware market deeper than just usb hand/head sets this time, nothing else.
2011/5/9 Madovsky <infos@madovsky.org>:
but.... Skype use open source for their APIs, isn't it ?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Anton VG" <anton.vazir@gmail.com> To: "FreeSWITCH Users Help" <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:36 AM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] SkypeKit for mo_skyopen?
It's a world of money. They want to control how you call, where you call. If there will be a free software which will implement skype calls, in large scale, using native methods... it will go out of their control. They a still bulb, and they want to put as much air into the bulb as possible... FS pierce holes in their bulb... ;)
2011/5/9 Shamun <shamun.toha@gmail.com>:
Giovanni, Respect guru!!. Why FreeSWITCH, server is not a embedded server to Skype theory/logic? If we put FreeSwitch in ATOM or ARM or 64 bit server, its not embedded? What is there definition of embedded? Skype really is a crazy company, underestimate FreeSwitch and your knowledge (you did genius job, job well done). Reg Shamun
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, mazilo <Nabble@slickdeals.endjunk.com> wrote:
I wondered if this http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit will help making mod_skypopen more useable. Has any FS developers here gotten a chance to take a look at http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit SkypeKit and tries to incorporate into FS for mod_skypopen to replace the need for a Skype client?
Seems very difficult to have that kit. I (and others) have asked for it, without success. Btw, I had a deep discussion with another developer (outside FS community) with access to that kit, and we concurred it's not usable for our purpose. It's tageted to single call, for embedded devices usage (we need multiple concurrent calls for FS).
-giovanni -- Sincerely,
Giovanni Maruzzelli Cell : +39-347-2665618
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Ah ok , maybe I mix with googletalk I thought they use xmpp protocol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giovanni Maruzzelli" <gmaruzz@celliax.org> To: "FreeSWITCH Users Help" <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] SkypeKit for mo_skyopen?
Their protocol is not at all open source, it' proprietary and completely close. They piblished an API to control the skypeclient, thatps all.
-giovanni
On 5/9/11, Madovsky <infos@madovsky.org> wrote:
sure, but I meant that if their protocols are open source, so they have to share with equity and without any restrictions but the licence itself...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Anton VG" <anton.vazir@gmail.com> To: "FreeSWITCH Users Help" <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] SkypeKit for mo_skyopen?
A lot of commercial companies use OSS for almost everything. I build a whole ISP with OSS including routers/voip/fixed telephony/billing/NASes/BRASes in our small country. Everything except l2/l3 switches runing OSS. Just because i have no funds to buy CISCO/HUAWEI/etc, so using OSS in the core changes nothing, and not makes company releasing everything OSS. Whatever Skype writes, what they want free calls for everyone, bla bla bla, They just looking for a way to enter hardware market deeper than just usb hand/head sets this time, nothing else.
2011/5/9 Madovsky <infos@madovsky.org>:
but.... Skype use open source for their APIs, isn't it ?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Anton VG" <anton.vazir@gmail.com> To: "FreeSWITCH Users Help" <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:36 AM Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] SkypeKit for mo_skyopen?
It's a world of money. They want to control how you call, where you call. If there will be a free software which will implement skype calls, in large scale, using native methods... it will go out of their control. They a still bulb, and they want to put as much air into the bulb as possible... FS pierce holes in their bulb... ;)
2011/5/9 Shamun <shamun.toha@gmail.com>:
Giovanni, Respect guru!!. Why FreeSWITCH, server is not a embedded server to Skype theory/logic? If we put FreeSwitch in ATOM or ARM or 64 bit server, its not embedded? What is there definition of embedded? Skype really is a crazy company, underestimate FreeSwitch and your knowledge (you did genius job, job well done). Reg Shamun
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, mazilo <Nabble@slickdeals.endjunk.com> wrote: > I wondered if this http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit > SkypeKit > will > help making mod_skypopen more useable. Has any FS developers here > gotten > a > chance to take a look at http://developer.skype.com/public/skypekit > SkypeKit and tries to incorporate into FS for mod_skypopen to > replace > the > need for a Skype client?
Seems very difficult to have that kit. I (and others) have asked for it, without success. Btw, I had a deep discussion with another developer (outside FS community) with access to that kit, and we concurred it's not usable for our purpose. It's tageted to single call, for embedded devices usage (we need multiple concurrent calls for FS).
-giovanni -- Sincerely,
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