Look I don't wanna start a fire here and have full respect for the team behind FreeSWITCH. It's 2018 right? I am talking about Evolution. Why doesn't the FreeSWITCH community have a more up to date online community board? I am talking about the mailing lists, why not use a tool to help the community a bit more and make it grow? Today I think it's hard to get a view of all the questions/answers and the mailing list archive is not that user friendly. If people more easy can search/browse for answers then less questions will be generated. I don't see a big and viable community as FreeSWITCH deserves IMO and I am certain of getting a online community board will increase the community in that sense. This is one of the first things I look for when getting a new component or trying to find help. I am still a beginner of FreeSWITCH even though I've followed the project for years and I know a community board would help me and most likely others. It's easy to scope/categorize the content of a community board and to allow certain discussions of possible configuration errors vs bugs etc, as a novice like my self I have a hard time to spot this and when I read answers like "bugs are not to discussed on the list - file a Jira". If you, like me, don't even know if this is a mistake by myself and get this kind of answer I really hesitate to ask. All I want is the best for FreeSWITCH. What do you think? /Fred
The plan is to migrate to Mailman 3 when its ready, but the last few passes at it, they were not ready to migrate from older installs. If thats ready, we can move that up the infrastructure priority list. If anyone wants to do the research on if thats ready, i’d be happy to hear the findings.
On Feb 22, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Fred Pettersson <t90fpe@outlook.com> wrote:
Look I don't wanna start a fire here and have full respect for the team behind FreeSWITCH.
It's 2018 right? I am talking about Evolution. Why doesn't the FreeSWITCH community have a more up to date online community board? I am talking about the mailing lists, why not use a tool to help the community a bit more and make it grow?
Today I think it's hard to get a view of all the questions/answers and the mailing list archive is not that user friendly. If people more easy can search/browse for answers then less questions will be generated. I don't see a big and viable community as FreeSWITCH deserves IMO and I am certain of getting a online community board will increase the community in that sense. This is one of the first things I look for when getting a new component or trying to find help. I am still a beginner of FreeSWITCH even though I've followed the project for years and I know a community board would help me and most likely others.
It's easy to scope/categorize the content of a community board and to allow certain discussions of possible configuration errors vs bugs etc, as a novice like my self I have a hard time to spot this and when I read answers like "bugs are not to discussed on the list - file a Jira". If you, like me, don't even know if this is a mistake by myself and get this kind of answer I really hesitate to ask.
All I want is the best for FreeSWITCH. What do you think?
/Fred
On 02/22/2018 11:33, Fred Pettersson wrote:
Look I don't wanna start a fire here and have full respect for the team behind FreeSWITCH.
It's 2018 right? I am talking about Evolution. Why doesn't the FreeSWITCH community have a more up to date online community board? I am talking about the mailing lists, why not use a tool to help the community a bit more and make it grow? As a user who's not delved very deep into it myself, and someone who truly appreciates the fact that FS is properly designed and developed, which is why _I_ use it rather than *, but as such I never end up spending much time consecutive time on it, and in this long running sentence, will always appreciate things that makes it easy for a novice to get started.
Open source software, often driven by individual interests, certainly can have issues with getting people past the initial install. FS for example, have some excellent videos to help you get started! Then if you want to know more they would not mind, I'm sure, if you paid them for support so they can have some income. I've walked down the path of offering Open Source s/w and charged for support etc. It can be profitable, but it can also be a pain in the butt with not enough cash flow to become really viable. Often times someone will suggest some improvement, as you have, and the reply can easily be "Great, do it!". I'm not suggesting that I'm talking for this group in the least, but I have seen it first hand and know how it can be. --- fs
Hello Fred, I think Google provides a good way of querying the mailing-list, given that the subject-line is good and the content isn't just a random "Hiiiiiiiii - how to solve command" Many projects in the unix-world including operating systems rely heavily on mailing-list communication. And that one works fine. Could you state more precise what you mean by an online community board? In my understanding that would be a forum. Some users aren't able to use the search functions in such forums either. By now I can't see a benefit of an "online community board". Besides the mailing-list you may participate in the weekly conference call and ClueCon weekly. Aside from that: don't be afraid to ask on the list and try to apply the basic rules you'll find in many online forums: good titles, be respectful, and put some effort into your text. Sincerely, Paul Am 22.02.2018 um 17:33 schrieb Fred Pettersson:
Look I don't wanna start a fire here and have full respect for the team behind FreeSWITCH.
It's 2018 right? I am talking about Evolution. Why doesn't the FreeSWITCH community have a more up to date online community board? I am talking about the mailing lists, why not use a tool to help the community a bit more and make it grow?
Today I think it's hard to get a view of all the questions/answers and the mailing list archive is not that user friendly. If people more easy can search/browse for answers then less questions will be generated. I don't see a big and viable community as FreeSWITCH deserves IMO and I am certain of getting a online community board will increase the community in that sense. This is one of the first things I look for when getting a new component or trying to find help. I am still a beginner of FreeSWITCH even though I've followed the project for years and I know a community board would help me and most likely others.
It's easy to scope/categorize the content of a community board and to allow certain discussions of possible configuration errors vs bugs etc, as a novice like my self I have a hard time to spot this and when I read answers like "bugs are not to discussed on the list - file a Jira". If you, like me, don't even know if this is a mistake by myself and get this kind of answer I really hesitate to ask.
All I want is the best for FreeSWITCH. What do you think?
/Fred
_________________________________________________________________________ Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services: consulting@freeswitch.org http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com
Official FreeSWITCH Sites http://www.freeswitch.org http://confluence.freeswitch.org http://www.cluecon.com
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
As Paul just said, lists.freeswitch.org contains a complete archive of the mailing list. This site is heavily indexed by google. A hint for searching it is when you google use the "site:lists.freeswitch.org" or "site:freeswitch.org" to restrict your google queries. This should return anything in the archive relevant to your actual query string. Have fun! K From: FreeSWITCH-users [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Paul Zillmann Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:51 PM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] My 2 cents - online community Hello Fred, I think Google provides a good way of querying the mailing-list, given that the subject-line is good and the content isn't just a random "Hiiiiiiiii - how to solve command" Many projects in the unix-world including operating systems rely heavily on mailing-list communication. And that one works fine. Could you state more precise what you mean by an online community board? In my understanding that would be a forum. Some users aren't able to use the search functions in such forums either. By now I can't see a benefit of an "online community board". Besides the mailing-list you may participate in the weekly conference call and ClueCon weekly. Aside from that: don't be afraid to ask on the list and try to apply the basic rules you'll find in many online forums: good titles, be respectful, and put some effort into your text. Sincerely, Paul Am 22.02.2018 um 17:33 schrieb Fred Pettersson: Look I don't wanna start a fire here and have full respect for the team behind FreeSWITCH. It's 2018 right? I am talking about Evolution. Why doesn't the FreeSWITCH community have a more up to date online community board? I am talking about the mailing lists, why not use a tool to help the community a bit more and make it grow? Today I think it's hard to get a view of all the questions/answers and the mailing list archive is not that user friendly. If people more easy can search/browse for answers then less questions will be generated. I don't see a big and viable community as FreeSWITCH deserves IMO and I am certain of getting a online community board will increase the community in that sense. This is one of the first things I look for when getting a new component or trying to find help. I am still a beginner of FreeSWITCH even though I've followed the project for years and I know a community board would help me and most likely others. It's easy to scope/categorize the content of a community board and to allow certain discussions of possible configuration errors vs bugs etc, as a novice like my self I have a hard time to spot this and when I read answers like "bugs are not to discussed on the list - file a Jira". If you, like me, don't even know if this is a mistake by myself and get this kind of answer I really hesitate to ask. All I want is the best for FreeSWITCH. What do you think? /Fred _________________________________________________________________________ Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services: consulting@freeswitch.org <mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org> http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com Official FreeSWITCH Sites http://www.freeswitch.org http://confluence.freeswitch.org http://www.cluecon.com FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org
also, don't forget there are 3 FreeSWITCH books out there, each of them available in ebook, pdf and printed paper format... If you can't buy them, you can at least ask a friend in the know to provide them to you. -giovanni On 22 February 2018 at 21:35, <krice@tollfreegateway.com> wrote:
As Paul just said, lists.freeswitch.org contains a complete archive of the mailing list. This site is heavily indexed by google.
A hint for searching it is when you google use the “site: lists.freeswitch.org” or “site:freeswitch.org” to restrict your google queries. This should return anything in the archive relevant to your actual query string.
Have fun!
K
*From:* FreeSWITCH-users [mailto:freeswitch-users- bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] *On Behalf Of *Paul Zillmann *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:51 PM *To:* freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] My 2 cents - online community
Hello Fred,
I think Google provides a good way of querying the mailing-list, given that the subject-line is good and the content isn't just a random "Hiiiiiiiii - how to solve command"
Many projects in the unix-world including operating systems rely heavily on mailing-list communication. And that one works fine.
Could you state more precise what you mean by an online community board? In my understanding that would be a forum.
Some users aren't able to use the search functions in such forums either.
By now I can't see a benefit of an "online community board".
Besides the mailing-list you may participate in the weekly conference call and ClueCon weekly.
Aside from that: don't be afraid to ask on the list and try to apply the basic rules you'll find in many online forums: good titles, be respectful, and put some effort into your text.
Sincerely,
Paul
Am 22.02.2018 um 17:33 schrieb Fred Pettersson:
Look I don't wanna start a fire here and have full respect for the team behind FreeSWITCH.
It's 2018 right? I am talking about Evolution. Why doesn't the FreeSWITCH community have a more up to date online community board? I am talking about the mailing lists, why not use a tool to help the community a bit more and make it grow?
Today I think it's hard to get a view of all the questions/answers and the mailing list archive is not that user friendly. If people more easy can search/browse for answers then less questions will be generated. I don't see a big and viable community as FreeSWITCH deserves IMO and I am certain of getting a online community board will increase the community in that sense. This is one of the first things I look for when getting a new component or trying to find help. I am still a beginner of FreeSWITCH even though I've followed the project for years and I know a community board would help me and most likely others.
It's easy to scope/categorize the content of a community board and to allow certain discussions of possible configuration errors vs bugs etc, as a novice like my self I have a hard time to spot this and when I read answers like "bugs are not to discussed on the list - file a Jira". If you, like me, don't even know if this is a mistake by myself and get this kind of answer I really hesitate to ask.
All I want is the best for FreeSWITCH. What do you think?
/Fred
_________________________________________________________________________
Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:
consulting@freeswitch.org
http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com
Official FreeSWITCH Sites
http://confluence.freeswitch.org
FreeSWITCH-users mailing list
FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org
http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users
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-- Sincerely, Giovanni Maruzzelli OpenTelecom.IT cell: +39 347 266 56 18
Thank you all for feedback. Remember this was just my 2-cents. I just want to highlight that I am not saying mailing-list communication is not working but there are better options IMO. Just to clarify - I am talking about an online forum instead of the mailing list. To justify the old way just because some user can't use the search in an online forum is just for the wrong reason. How many can't use them today or even know it's there today. It's a shopping window. I know about the FS books, I've bought three of them (paper). They are good but they do not cover everything. I know about Confluence, ClueCon Weekly, I use YouTube to watch them etc. To be fair I think you are missing my point here :) I think there is room for a good place to have discussions with others in an easy to use online tool (forum could serve that). You know what's most "scary" about the whole thing? That's non of you does not even consider or elaborates about a change of this but tries to guide me how/were instead but I am talking about the community. Where is the spirit? :) As I said I don't want to start a fire here, I want the best for FreeSWITCH and make the community to grow. I honestly don't think mailman is the most efficient tool in terms of growing the community. I rest my case I don't want to start a big thing. Regards, Fred ________________________________ Från: FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org> för Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@gmail.com> Skickat: den 23 februari 2018 09:26:23 Till: FreeSWITCH Users Help Ämne: Re: [Freeswitch-users] My 2 cents - online community also, don't forget there are 3 FreeSWITCH books out there, each of them available in ebook, pdf and printed paper format... If you can't buy them, you can at least ask a friend in the know to provide them to you. -giovanni On 22 February 2018 at 21:35, <krice@tollfreegateway.com<mailto:krice@tollfreegateway.com>> wrote: As Paul just said, lists.freeswitch.org<http://lists.freeswitch.org> contains a complete archive of the mailing list. This site is heavily indexed by google. A hint for searching it is when you google use the “site:lists.freeswitch.org<http://lists.freeswitch.org>” or “site:freeswitch.org<http://freeswitch.org>” to restrict your google queries. This should return anything in the archive relevant to your actual query string. Have fun! K From: FreeSWITCH-users [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org<mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org>] On Behalf Of Paul Zillmann Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:51 PM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org<mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] My 2 cents - online community Hello Fred, I think Google provides a good way of querying the mailing-list, given that the subject-line is good and the content isn't just a random "Hiiiiiiiii - how to solve command" Many projects in the unix-world including operating systems rely heavily on mailing-list communication. And that one works fine. Could you state more precise what you mean by an online community board? In my understanding that would be a forum. Some users aren't able to use the search functions in such forums either. By now I can't see a benefit of an "online community board". Besides the mailing-list you may participate in the weekly conference call and ClueCon weekly. Aside from that: don't be afraid to ask on the list and try to apply the basic rules you'll find in many online forums: good titles, be respectful, and put some effort into your text. Sincerely, Paul Am 22.02.2018 um 17:33 schrieb Fred Pettersson: Look I don't wanna start a fire here and have full respect for the team behind FreeSWITCH. It's 2018 right? I am talking about Evolution. Why doesn't the FreeSWITCH community have a more up to date online community board? I am talking about the mailing lists, why not use a tool to help the community a bit more and make it grow? Today I think it's hard to get a view of all the questions/answers and the mailing list archive is not that user friendly. If people more easy can search/browse for answers then less questions will be generated. I don't see a big and viable community as FreeSWITCH deserves IMO and I am certain of getting a online community board will increase the community in that sense. This is one of the first things I look for when getting a new component or trying to find help. I am still a beginner of FreeSWITCH even though I've followed the project for years and I know a community board would help me and most likely others. It's easy to scope/categorize the content of a community board and to allow certain discussions of possible configuration errors vs bugs etc, as a novice like my self I have a hard time to spot this and when I read answers like "bugs are not to discussed on the list - file a Jira". If you, like me, don't even know if this is a mistake by myself and get this kind of answer I really hesitate to ask. All I want is the best for FreeSWITCH. What do you think? /Fred _________________________________________________________________________ Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services: consulting@freeswitch.org<mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org> http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com Official FreeSWITCH Sites http://www.freeswitch.org http://confluence.freeswitch.org http://www.cluecon.com FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org<mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org _________________________________________________________________________ Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services: consulting@freeswitch.org<mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org> http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com Official FreeSWITCH Sites http://www.freeswitch.org http://confluence.freeswitch.org http://www.cluecon.com FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org<mailto:FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org> http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org -- Sincerely, Giovanni Maruzzelli OpenTelecom.IT cell: +39 347 266 56 18
You are not starting a fire at all. I understood you to be looking at wanting some better sort of forum. Mailman 3 as i said is the planned solution to this as it does a decent job combining a forum and mailing list together into one concept, in a way where we don’t have to monitor two different things separately and you get the best exposure. I totally understood what you were proposing, was letting you know what the blockers to moving forward on this are, and putting it out there a way that you could help the community by moving this process forward. Please jump in and assist in moving this process forward if you are willing and able. Thanks as always we appreciate the feedback about how we can foster a better community. Mike
On Feb 23, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Fred Pettersson <t90fpe@outlook.com> wrote:
Thank you all for feedback. Remember this was just my 2-cents. I just want to highlight that I am not saying mailing-list communication is not working but there are better options IMO.
Just to clarify - I am talking about an online forum instead of the mailing list. To justify the old way just because some user can't use the search in an online forum is just for the wrong reason. How many can't use them today or even know it's there today. It's a shopping window. I know about the FS books, I've bought three of them (paper). They are good but they do not cover everything. I know about Confluence, ClueCon Weekly, I use YouTube to watch them etc. To be fair I think you are missing my point here :) I think there is room for a good place to have discussions with others in an easy to use online tool (forum could serve that).
You know what's most "scary" about the whole thing? That's non of you does not even consider or elaborates about a change of this but tries to guide me how/were instead but I am talking about the community. Where is the spirit? :)
As I said I don't want to start a fire here, I want the best for FreeSWITCH and make the community to grow. I honestly don't think mailman is the most efficient tool in terms of growing the community. I rest my case I don't want to start a big thing.
Regards, Fred
Från: FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org>> för Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@gmail.com <mailto:gmaruzz@gmail.com>> Skickat: den 23 februari 2018 09:26:23 Till: FreeSWITCH Users Help Ämne: Re: [Freeswitch-users] My 2 cents - online community
also, don't forget there are 3 FreeSWITCH books out there, each of them available in ebook, pdf and printed paper format...
If you can't buy them, you can at least ask a friend in the know to provide them to you.
-giovanni
On 22 February 2018 at 21:35, <krice@tollfreegateway.com <mailto:krice@tollfreegateway.com>> wrote: As Paul just said, lists.freeswitch.org <http://lists.freeswitch.org/> contains a complete archive of the mailing list. This site is heavily indexed by google.
A hint for searching it is when you google use the “site:lists.freeswitch.org <http://lists.freeswitch.org/>” or “site:freeswitch.org <http://freeswitch.org/>” to restrict your google queries. This should return anything in the archive relevant to your actual query string.
Have fun! K
From: FreeSWITCH-users [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org>] On Behalf Of Paul Zillmann Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:51 PM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] My 2 cents - online community
Hello Fred,
I think Google provides a good way of querying the mailing-list, given that the subject-line is good and the content isn't just a random "Hiiiiiiiii - how to solve command" Many projects in the unix-world including operating systems rely heavily on mailing-list communication. And that one works fine. Could you state more precise what you mean by an online community board? In my understanding that would be a forum.
Some users aren't able to use the search functions in such forums either. By now I can't see a benefit of an "online community board".
Besides the mailing-list you may participate in the weekly conference call and ClueCon weekly. Aside from that: don't be afraid to ask on the list and try to apply the basic rules you'll find in many online forums: good titles, be respectful, and put some effort into your text.
Sincerely, Paul
Am 22.02.2018 um 17:33 schrieb Fred Pettersson: Look I don't wanna start a fire here and have full respect for the team behind FreeSWITCH.
It's 2018 right? I am talking about Evolution. Why doesn't the FreeSWITCH community have a more up to date online community board? I am talking about the mailing lists, why not use a tool to help the community a bit more and make it grow?
Today I think it's hard to get a view of all the questions/answers and the mailing list archive is not that user friendly. If people more easy can search/browse for answers then less questions will be generated. I don't see a big and viable community as FreeSWITCH deserves IMO and I am certain of getting a online community board will increase the community in that sense. This is one of the first things I look for when getting a new component or trying to find help. I am still a beginner of FreeSWITCH even though I've followed the project for years and I know a community board would help me and most likely others.
It's easy to scope/categorize the content of a community board and to allow certain discussions of possible configuration errors vs bugs etc, as a novice like my self I have a hard time to spot this and when I read answers like "bugs are not to discussed on the list - file a Jira". If you, like me, don't even know if this is a mistake by myself and get this kind of answer I really hesitate to ask.
All I want is the best for FreeSWITCH. What do you think?
/Fred
Would love an option to upvote / downvote so that great solutions can be highlighted and "haiiii i have error please help fix" can be downvoted to invisibility. On Feb 23, 2018, at 2:27 PM, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com<mailto:mike@jerris.com>> wrote: You are not starting a fire at all. I understood you to be looking at wanting some better sort of forum. Mailman 3 as i said is the planned solution to this as it does a decent job combining a forum and mailing list together into one concept, in a way where we don’t have to monitor two different things separately and you get the best exposure. I totally understood what you were proposing, was letting you know what the blockers to moving forward on this are, and putting it out there a way that you could help the community by moving this process forward. Please jump in and assist in moving this process forward if you are willing and able. Thanks as always we appreciate the feedback about how we can foster a better community. Mike On Feb 23, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Fred Pettersson <t90fpe@outlook.com<mailto:t90fpe@outlook.com>> wrote: Thank you all for feedback. Remember this was just my 2-cents. I just want to highlight that I am not saying mailing-list communication is not working but there are better options IMO. Just to clarify - I am talking about an online forum instead of the mailing list. To justify the old way just because some user can't use the search in an online forum is just for the wrong reason. How many can't use them today or even know it's there today. It's a shopping window. I know about the FS books, I've bought three of them (paper). They are good but they do not cover everything. I know about Confluence, ClueCon Weekly, I use YouTube to watch them etc. To be fair I think you are missing my point here :) I think there is room for a good place to have discussions with others in an easy to use online tool (forum could serve that). You know what's most "scary" about the whole thing? That's non of you does not even consider or elaborates about a change of this but tries to guide me how/were instead but I am talking about the community. Where is the spirit? :) As I said I don't want to start a fire here, I want the best for FreeSWITCH and make the community to grow. I honestly don't think mailman is the most efficient tool in terms of growing the community. I rest my case I don't want to start a big thing. Regards, Fred ________________________________ Från: FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org<mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org>> för Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@gmail.com<mailto:gmaruzz@gmail.com>> Skickat: den 23 februari 2018 09:26:23 Till: FreeSWITCH Users Help Ämne: Re: [Freeswitch-users] My 2 cents - online community also, don't forget there are 3 FreeSWITCH books out there, each of them available in ebook, pdf and printed paper format... If you can't buy them, you can at least ask a friend in the know to provide them to you. -giovanni On 22 February 2018 at 21:35, <krice@tollfreegateway.com<mailto:krice@tollfreegateway.com>> wrote: As Paul just said, lists.freeswitch.org<http://lists.freeswitch.org/> contains a complete archive of the mailing list. This site is heavily indexed by google. A hint for searching it is when you google use the “site:lists.freeswitch.org<http://lists.freeswitch.org/>” or “site:freeswitch.org<http://freeswitch.org/>” to restrict your google queries. This should return anything in the archive relevant to your actual query string. Have fun! K From: FreeSWITCH-users [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org<mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org>] On Behalf Of Paul Zillmann Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:51 PM To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org<mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] My 2 cents - online community Hello Fred, I think Google provides a good way of querying the mailing-list, given that the subject-line is good and the content isn't just a random "Hiiiiiiiii - how to solve command" Many projects in the unix-world including operating systems rely heavily on mailing-list communication. And that one works fine. Could you state more precise what you mean by an online community board? In my understanding that would be a forum. Some users aren't able to use the search functions in such forums either. By now I can't see a benefit of an "online community board". Besides the mailing-list you may participate in the weekly conference call and ClueCon weekly. Aside from that: don't be afraid to ask on the list and try to apply the basic rules you'll find in many online forums: good titles, be respectful, and put some effort into your text. Sincerely, Paul Am 22.02.2018 um 17:33 schrieb Fred Pettersson: Look I don't wanna start a fire here and have full respect for the team behind FreeSWITCH. It's 2018 right? I am talking about Evolution. Why doesn't the FreeSWITCH community have a more up to date online community board? I am talking about the mailing lists, why not use a tool to help the community a bit more and make it grow? Today I think it's hard to get a view of all the questions/answers and the mailing list archive is not that user friendly. If people more easy can search/browse for answers then less questions will be generated. I don't see a big and viable community as FreeSWITCH deserves IMO and I am certain of getting a online community board will increase the community in that sense. This is one of the first things I look for when getting a new component or trying to find help. I am still a beginner of FreeSWITCH even though I've followed the project for years and I know a community board would help me and most likely others. It's easy to scope/categorize the content of a community board and to allow certain discussions of possible configuration errors vs bugs etc, as a novice like my self I have a hard time to spot this and when I read answers like "bugs are not to discussed on the list - file a Jira". If you, like me, don't even know if this is a mistake by myself and get this kind of answer I really hesitate to ask. All I want is the best for FreeSWITCH. What do you think? /Fred _________________________________________________________________________ Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services: consulting@freeswitch.org<mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org> http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com Official FreeSWITCH Sites http://www.freeswitch.org http://confluence.freeswitch.org http://www.cluecon.com FreeSWITCH-users mailing list FreeSWITCH-users@lists.freeswitch.org http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-users UNSUBSCRIBE:http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-users http://www.freeswitch.org “The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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Kinda like reddit.com/r/freeswitch? :0 On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 9:24 AM, William Simon <wsimon@stratusvideo.com> wrote:
Would love an option to upvote / downvote so that great solutions can be highlighted and "haiiii i have error please help fix" can be downvoted to invisibility.
On Feb 23, 2018, at 2:27 PM, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com> wrote:
You are not starting a fire at all. I understood you to be looking at wanting some better sort of forum. Mailman 3 as i said is the planned solution to this as it does a decent job combining a forum and mailing list together into one concept, in a way where we don’t have to monitor two different things separately and you get the best exposure. I totally understood what you were proposing, was letting you know what the blockers to moving forward on this are, and putting it out there a way that you could help the community by moving this process forward. Please jump in and assist in moving this process forward if you are willing and able. Thanks as always we appreciate the feedback about how we can foster a better community.
Mike
On Feb 23, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Fred Pettersson <t90fpe@outlook.com> wrote:
Thank you all for feedback. Remember this was just my 2-cents. I just want to highlight that I am not saying mailing-list communication is not working but there are better options IMO.
Just to clarify - I am talking about an online forum instead of the mailing list. To justify the old way just because some user can't use the search in an online forum is just for the wrong reason. How many can't use them today or even know it's there today. It's a shopping window. I know about the FS books, I've bought three of them (paper). They are good but they do not cover everything. I know about Confluence, ClueCon Weekly, I use YouTube to watch them etc. To be fair I think you are missing my point here :) I think there is room for a good place to have discussions with others in an easy to use online tool (forum could serve that).
You know what's most "scary" about the whole thing? That's non of you does not even consider or elaborates about a change of this but tries to guide me how/were instead but I am talking about the community. Where is the spirit? :)
As I said I don't want to start a fire here, I want the best for FreeSWITCH and make the community to grow. I honestly don't think mailman is the most efficient tool in terms of growing the community. I rest my case I don't want to start a big thing.
Regards, Fred
------------------------------ *Från:* FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org> för Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@gmail.com> *Skickat:* den 23 februari 2018 09:26:23 *Till:* FreeSWITCH Users Help *Ämne:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] My 2 cents - online community
also, don't forget there are 3 FreeSWITCH books out there, each of them available in ebook, pdf and printed paper format...
If you can't buy them, you can at least ask a friend in the know to provide them to you.
-giovanni
On 22 February 2018 at 21:35, <krice@tollfreegateway.com> wrote:
As Paul just said, lists.freeswitch.org contains a complete archive of the mailing list. This site is heavily indexed by google.
A hint for searching it is when you google use the “site: lists.freeswitch.org” or “site:freeswitch.org” to restrict your google queries. This should return anything in the archive relevant to your actual query string.
Have fun! K
*From:* FreeSWITCH-users [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounc es@lists.freeswitch.org] *On Behalf Of *Paul Zillmann *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:51 PM *To:* freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] My 2 cents - online community
Hello Fred,
I think Google provides a good way of querying the mailing-list, given that the subject-line is good and the content isn't just a random "Hiiiiiiiii - how to solve command" Many projects in the unix-world including operating systems rely heavily on mailing-list communication. And that one works fine. Could you state more precise what you mean by an online community board? In my understanding that would be a forum.
Some users aren't able to use the search functions in such forums either. By now I can't see a benefit of an "online community board".
Besides the mailing-list you may participate in the weekly conference call and ClueCon weekly. Aside from that: don't be afraid to ask on the list and try to apply the basic rules you'll find in many online forums: good titles, be respectful, and put some effort into your text.
Sincerely, Paul
Am 22.02.2018 um 17:33 schrieb Fred Pettersson:
Look I don't wanna start a fire here and have full respect for the team behind FreeSWITCH.
It's 2018 right? I am talking about Evolution. Why doesn't the FreeSWITCH community have a more up to date online community board? I am talking about the mailing lists, why not use a tool to help the community a bit more and make it grow?
Today I think it's hard to get a view of all the questions/answers and the mailing list archive is not that user friendly. If people more easy can search/browse for answers then less questions will be generated. I don't see a big and viable community as FreeSWITCH deserves IMO and I am certain of getting a online community board will increase the community in that sense. This is one of the first things I look for when getting a new component or trying to find help. I am still a beginner of FreeSWITCH even though I've followed the project for years and I know a community board would help me and most likely others.
It's easy to scope/categorize the content of a community board and to allow certain discussions of possible configuration errors vs bugs etc, as a novice like my self I have a hard time to spot this and when I read answers like "bugs are not to discussed on the list - file a Jira". If you, like me, don't even know if this is a mistake by myself and get this kind of answer I really hesitate to ask.
All I want is the best for FreeSWITCH. What do you think?
/Fred
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Only think that bothers me is that this solution now is filling my inbox 2018-02-26 19:20 GMT+01:00 Brian West <brian@freeswitch.com>:
Kinda like reddit.com/r/freeswitch? :0
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 9:24 AM, William Simon <wsimon@stratusvideo.com> wrote:
Would love an option to upvote / downvote so that great solutions can be highlighted and "haiiii i have error please help fix" can be downvoted to invisibility.
On Feb 23, 2018, at 2:27 PM, Michael Jerris <mike@jerris.com> wrote:
You are not starting a fire at all. I understood you to be looking at wanting some better sort of forum. Mailman 3 as i said is the planned solution to this as it does a decent job combining a forum and mailing list together into one concept, in a way where we don’t have to monitor two different things separately and you get the best exposure. I totally understood what you were proposing, was letting you know what the blockers to moving forward on this are, and putting it out there a way that you could help the community by moving this process forward. Please jump in and assist in moving this process forward if you are willing and able. Thanks as always we appreciate the feedback about how we can foster a better community.
Mike
On Feb 23, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Fred Pettersson <t90fpe@outlook.com> wrote:
Thank you all for feedback. Remember this was just my 2-cents. I just want to highlight that I am not saying mailing-list communication is not working but there are better options IMO.
Just to clarify - I am talking about an online forum instead of the mailing list. To justify the old way just because some user can't use the search in an online forum is just for the wrong reason. How many can't use them today or even know it's there today. It's a shopping window. I know about the FS books, I've bought three of them (paper). They are good but they do not cover everything. I know about Confluence, ClueCon Weekly, I use YouTube to watch them etc. To be fair I think you are missing my point here :) I think there is room for a good place to have discussions with others in an easy to use online tool (forum could serve that).
You know what's most "scary" about the whole thing? That's non of you does not even consider or elaborates about a change of this but tries to guide me how/were instead but I am talking about the community. Where is the spirit? :)
As I said I don't want to start a fire here, I want the best for FreeSWITCH and make the community to grow. I honestly don't think mailman is the most efficient tool in terms of growing the community. I rest my case I don't want to start a big thing.
Regards, Fred
------------------------------ *Från:* FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org> för Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@gmail.com> *Skickat:* den 23 februari 2018 09:26:23 *Till:* FreeSWITCH Users Help *Ämne:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] My 2 cents - online community
also, don't forget there are 3 FreeSWITCH books out there, each of them available in ebook, pdf and printed paper format...
If you can't buy them, you can at least ask a friend in the know to provide them to you.
-giovanni
On 22 February 2018 at 21:35, <krice@tollfreegateway.com> wrote:
As Paul just said, lists.freeswitch.org contains a complete archive of the mailing list. This site is heavily indexed by google.
A hint for searching it is when you google use the “site: lists.freeswitch.org” or “site:freeswitch.org” to restrict your google queries. This should return anything in the archive relevant to your actual query string.
Have fun! K
*From:* FreeSWITCH-users [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounc es@lists.freeswitch.org] *On Behalf Of *Paul Zillmann *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:51 PM *To:* freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] My 2 cents - online community
Hello Fred,
I think Google provides a good way of querying the mailing-list, given that the subject-line is good and the content isn't just a random "Hiiiiiiiii - how to solve command" Many projects in the unix-world including operating systems rely heavily on mailing-list communication. And that one works fine. Could you state more precise what you mean by an online community board? In my understanding that would be a forum.
Some users aren't able to use the search functions in such forums either. By now I can't see a benefit of an "online community board".
Besides the mailing-list you may participate in the weekly conference call and ClueCon weekly. Aside from that: don't be afraid to ask on the list and try to apply the basic rules you'll find in many online forums: good titles, be respectful, and put some effort into your text.
Sincerely, Paul
Am 22.02.2018 um 17:33 schrieb Fred Pettersson:
Look I don't wanna start a fire here and have full respect for the team behind FreeSWITCH.
It's 2018 right? I am talking about Evolution. Why doesn't the FreeSWITCH community have a more up to date online community board? I am talking about the mailing lists, why not use a tool to help the community a bit more and make it grow?
Today I think it's hard to get a view of all the questions/answers and the mailing list archive is not that user friendly. If people more easy can search/browse for answers then less questions will be generated. I don't see a big and viable community as FreeSWITCH deserves IMO and I am certain of getting a online community board will increase the community in that sense. This is one of the first things I look for when getting a new component or trying to find help. I am still a beginner of FreeSWITCH even though I've followed the project for years and I know a community board would help me and most likely others.
It's easy to scope/categorize the content of a community board and to allow certain discussions of possible configuration errors vs bugs etc, as a novice like my self I have a hard time to spot this and when I read answers like "bugs are not to discussed on the list - file a Jira". If you, like me, don't even know if this is a mistake by myself and get this kind of answer I really hesitate to ask.
All I want is the best for FreeSWITCH. What do you think?
/Fred
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just because some user can't use the search in an online forum is just for the wrong reason
could you elaborate? if you need to discuss there is a fantastic freeswitch IRC channel ;) today the choice to communicate is not based on old or new, it's just a question of taste.... On 2/23/2018 10:23 AM, Fred Pettersson wrote:
Thank you all for feedback. Remember this was just my 2-cents. I just want to highlight that I am not saying mailing-list communication is not working but there are better options IMO.
Just to clarify - I am talking about an online forum instead of the mailing list. To justify the old way just because some user can't use the search in an online forum is just for the wrong reason. How many can't use them today or even know it's there today. It's a shopping window. I know about the FS books, I've bought three of them (paper). They are good but they do not cover everything. I know about Confluence, ClueCon Weekly, I use YouTube to watch them etc. To be fair I think you are missing my point here :) I think there is room for a good place to have discussions with others in an easy to use online tool (forum could serve that).
You know what's most "scary" about the whole thing? That's non of you does not even consider or elaborates about a change of this but tries to guide me how/were instead but I am talking about the community. Where is the spirit? :)
As I said I don't want to start a fire here, I want the best for FreeSWITCH and make the community to grow. I honestly don't think mailman is the most efficient tool in terms of growing the community. I rest my case I don't want to start a big thing.
Regards, Fred
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Från:* FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org> för Giovanni Maruzzelli <gmaruzz@gmail.com> *Skickat:* den 23 februari 2018 09:26:23 *Till:* FreeSWITCH Users Help *Ämne:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] My 2 cents - online community also, don't forget there are 3 FreeSWITCH books out there, each of them available in ebook, pdf and printed paper format...
If you can't buy them, you can at least ask a friend in the know to provide them to you.
-giovanni
On 22 February 2018 at 21:35, <krice@tollfreegateway.com <mailto:krice@tollfreegateway.com>> wrote:
As Paul just said, lists.freeswitch.org <http://lists.freeswitch.org> contains a complete archive of the mailing list. This site is heavily indexed by google.
A hint for searching it is when you google use the “site:lists.freeswitch.org <http://lists.freeswitch.org>” or “site:freeswitch.org <http://freeswitch.org>” to restrict your google queries. This should return anything in the archive relevant to your actual query string.
Have fun!
K
*From:*FreeSWITCH-users [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org>] *On Behalf Of *Paul Zillmann *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:51 PM *To:* freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org <mailto:freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org> *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] My 2 cents - online community
Hello Fred,
I think Google provides a good way of querying the mailing-list, given that the subject-line is good and the content isn't just a random "Hiiiiiiiii - how to solve command"
Many projects in the unix-world including operating systems rely heavily on mailing-list communication. And that one works fine.
Could you state more precise what you mean by an online community board? In my understanding that would be a forum.
Some users aren't able to use the search functions in such forums either.
By now I can't see a benefit of an "online community board".
Besides the mailing-list you may participate in the weekly conference call and ClueCon weekly.
Aside from that: don't be afraid to ask on the list and try to apply the basic rules you'll find in many online forums: good titles, be respectful, and put some effort into your text.
Sincerely,
Paul
Am 22.02.2018 um 17:33 schrieb Fred Pettersson:
Look I don't wanna start a fire here and have full respect for the team behind FreeSWITCH.
It's 2018 right? I am talking about Evolution. Why doesn't the FreeSWITCH community have a more up to date online community board? I am talking about the mailing lists, why not use a tool to help the community a bit more and make it grow?
Today I think it's hard to get a view of all the questions/answers and the mailing list archive is not that user friendly. If people more easy can search/browse for answers then less questions will be generated. I don't see a big and viable community as FreeSWITCH deserves IMO and I am certain of getting a online community board will increase the community in that sense. This is one of the first things I look for when getting a new component or trying to find help. I am still a beginner of FreeSWITCH even though I've followed the project for years and I know a community board would help me and most likely others.
It's easy to scope/categorize the content of a community board and to allow certain discussions of possible configuration errors vs bugs etc, as a novice like my self I have a hard time to spot this and when I read answers like "bugs are not to discussed on the list - file a Jira". If you, like me, don't even know if this is a mistake by myself and get this kind of answer I really hesitate to ask.
All I want is the best for FreeSWITCH. What do you think?
/Fred
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On Thu 22 Feb 2018 4:33 PM, Fred Pettersson wrote:
Look I don't wanna start a fire here and have full respect for the team behind FreeSWITCH.
It's 2018 right? I am talking about Evolution. Why doesn't the FreeSWITCH community have a more up to date online community board? I am talking about the mailing lists, why not use a tool to help the community a bit more and make it grow?
Have you joined the hipchat channel? https://hipchat.freeswitch.org Forums are nice, if the participation is good. Otherwise, it's wasted developer time setting it up.
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Brian West
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Fred Pettersson
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fs
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Giovanni Maruzzelli
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Gregor Nanger
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Jungle Boogie
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krice＠tollfreegateway.com
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Madovsky
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Michael Jerris
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Paul Zillmann
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William Simon